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Hotrod2

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People who have religious delusions against homosexuality have swallowed the disinformation built by a millennium of liars in black robes. There is no scriptural proscription on same-sex sex.

In any case, religion is a bad basis for government no matter how you slice it.
There would be a lot of Muslims and Christians and Jews that disagree with you. But in Canada they would still be forced to pay for stuff that they have a religious problem with. And you and others would discount their beliefs because you don't believe they have a right to that belief?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There would be a lot of Muslims and Christians and Jews that disagree with you. But in Canada they would still be forced to pay for stuff that they have a religious problem with. And you and others would discount their beliefs because you don't believe they have a right to that belief?
If they want to believe it on their own dime, fine. But require them to keep their ridiculous and hurtful restrictions private. I do not wish to partake in, let alone be asked to adapt my behavior to, a particularly persistent big lie.
 

printer

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There would be a lot of Muslims and Christians and Jews that disagree with you. But in Canada they would still be forced to pay for stuff that they have a religious problem with. And you and others would discount their beliefs because you don't believe they have a right to that belief?
Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.”
 

Hotrod2

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If they want to believe it on their own dime, fine. But require them to keep their ridiculous and hurtful restrictions private. I do not wish to partake in, let alone be asked to adapt my behavior to, a particularly persistent big lie.
Many of those same Christians and Muslims and Jews also believe that abortion is killing a human being but in Canada they are required to participate in doing just that so religious freedom seems to be a big issue for me and many others. If you insist they should keep it private it seems that freedom of speech is not something that's very welcomed in Canada either
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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People who have religious delusions against homosexuality have swallowed the disinformation built by a millennium of liars in black robes. There is no scriptural proscription on same-sex sex.

In any case, religion is a bad basis for government no matter how you slice it.
Leviticus 18:22 seems to, but language scholars seem to be of the opinion that it is prohibiting same sex incest, with much younger partners, which was apparently a problem at the time.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Many of those same Christians and Muslims and Jews also believe that abortion is killing a human being but in Canada they are required to participate in doing just that so religious freedom seems to be a big issue for me and many others. If you insist they should keep it private it seems that freedom of speech is not something that's very welcomed in Canada either
Please stop spouting harmful beliefs. Let’s keep this real.
Also, I very much doubt someone who does not want an abortion will be forced to have one. That is what participation reduces to, in your example.

Methinks you are the one against freedom with all this talk of the sociopolitical straitjacket that comes from people worshiping a book.
 

printer

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Many of those same Christians and Muslims and Jews also believe that abortion is killing a human being but in Canada they are required to participate in doing just that so religious freedom seems to be a big issue for me and many others. If you insist they should keep it private it seems that freedom of speech is not something that's very welcomed in Canada either
Where in Canada do we make people participate in abortion? I might have missed it in grade 10 Biology class.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There would be a lot of Muslims and Christians and Jews that disagree with you. But in Canada they would still be forced to pay for stuff that they have a religious problem with. And you and others would discount their beliefs because you don't believe they have a right to that belief?
you can believe whatever you want to, but you can't spill it over onto other people...
and you can't expect people to respect you if you hold ridiculous beliefs, especially ridiculous beliefs that you think grant you some authority over other people's lives. you seem to have more than enough difficulties with life without looking for more.
 

Boatguy

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The big one for me is the strict limit on the use of firearms. I also wonder if people who have religious convictions against homosexuality are required to help pay people's medical bills who want to have transgender surgeries. So that for me would be a restriction on the freedom of religion. From what I've seen Canada has historically dehumanized the natives. While they may live on what could be considered a reservation the land is in fact owned by the crown or the government.
This is fucked in so may ways, i dont know where to start.

I am an American.
We have a gun problem. My taxpayer dollars take care of mass shooting investigations, and restitution.
I pay extra tax dollars for many religious benefits i dont necessarily agree with. That does not effect my freedom to practice my religion.
Lastly, natives both here and up there deserve more than they have received.
 

Hotrod2

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Please stop spouting harmful beliefs. Let’s keep this real.
Also, I very much doubt someone who does not want an abortion will be forced to have one. That is what participation reduces to, in your example.

Methinks you are the one against freedom with all this talk of the sociopolitical straitjacket that comes from people worshiping a book.
This Is the wrong thread for this discussion. So this will be my last statement concerning this subject. I understand they can't be forced to have an abortion but they are forced to pay for other people to have abortions.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Many of those same Christians and Muslims and Jews also believe that abortion is killing a human being but in Canada they are required to participate in doing just that so religious freedom seems to be a big issue for me and many others. If you insist they should keep it private it seems that freedom of speech is not something that's very welcomed in Canada either
freedom of speech doesn't mean anyone has to give one thin fuck what you have to say, just that you can say it.
the same freedom of speech makes it ok for us to ridicule you if you're saying ridiculous shit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
This Is the wrong thread for this discussion. So this will be my last statement concerning this subject. I understand they can't be forced to have an abortion but they are forced to pay for other people to have abortions.
show me a single instance of that, excepting general taxation, which the book blesses.
 

printer

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This Is the wrong thread for this discussion. So this will be my last statement concerning this subject. I understand they can't be forced to have an abortion but they are forced to pay for other people to have abortions.
I am against teaching student French language in schools. But they will not stop the practice on my account. Maybe you want to be King of the World?

What is wrong with branching off from balloons? They already shot it down so how much can we really talk about it anymore?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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This Is the wrong thread for this discussion. So this will be my last statement concerning this subject. I understand they can't be forced to have an abortion but they are forced to pay for other people to have abortions.
so fucking what? NO ONE gets to say what their tax dollars get spent on...If i had a choice, i would earmark my taxes so not one fucking red cent ever went to a red state, or to any republican projects at all...but I don't, and neither does anyone else.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am against teaching student French language in schools. But they will not stop the practice on my account. Maybe you want to be King of the World?

What is wrong with branching off from balloons? They already shot it down so how much can we really talk about it anymore?
Dominionists wish to write their proprietary distortion of the divine into the Constitution. They seek sharia.
 

Boatguy

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Many of those same Christians and Muslims and Jews also believe that abortion is killing a human being but in Canada they are required to participate in doing just that so religious freedom seems to be a big issue for me and many others. If you insist they should keep it private it seems that freedom of speech is not something that's very welcomed in Canada either
What about the Muslims and Jews funding our days off for Christmas, Easter, and whatever else im forgetting
 
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