ctwalrus
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how have i just now seen this thread!?!?! i was planning on starting an oil thread!!
ok so you want the best oil do you..
been making oil for 6 + years now..
this was a message to a member on another forum
i dont care to edit it it will do fine
well to start off you should never pump bho while it is still in a solution, the butane is in too great a ratio at this point and you risk an explosion.
im not sure if you need a stronger pump simply because i do not know which pump you have now. however i recommend this and will never buy another pump, http://www.yellowjacket.com/product/681
i have the 6 cfm model which is plenty strong for our application.
and yes i have a very specific technique. its simple to be honest, and takes a very short amount of time. i am of the belief that there is only one correct way to do this as the extraction is chemical.
first, glass tubes. dont go larger than 2 oz tubes, running above 2 oz and the quality begins to decline. you start extracting chlorophyll if the butane (assuming its vector) is in contact with the herb for extended periods of time. (this is because vector, as well as all canned butane, uses propane as a propellent. nothing wrong with this as propane is only one atom off on the molecular level, but you start extracting other things because of it. so unless you use pure n-butane from airgas or equivalent...) so again small tube! the dimensions of my largest tube is roughly 12" long 1.5" wide, and holds about 2 oz absolutely crammed.
now you also want to focus on the way you spray
because the evaporation process of butane creates cold temperatures, you make your terpenes and other essential oils vulnerable to heat at the point of evaporation.
in other words, DO NOT give separate "blasts" of butane through your tube. the temperature change puts your oil more at risk.
what you want to do is start off your spray slowly, put as little pressure on the can as possible, let the butane drip out. right to the point of it hitting the glass collection tray, then "blast" it through fast.
now you just sit and wait for about 10 or so minutes while the butane evaporates off. i rock the dish back and forth until the solution doesn't run anymore, it should appear stable, very gooey, but shouldn't run or slosh at all like the solution did. about the consistency of warm honey.
at this point you want to act fast quickly putting it under a strong vacuum. i do this using the bowl seal set found here http://www.pump-n-seal.com/info.htm
just bring your dish to wherever your vacuum is located, put the bowl seal lid on your dish (best dish btw is a 9.5" pie dish) i dont use the "tab checks"
it comes with, i put a suction cup over the hole. i press down on the suction cup with vacuum hose coming from a "T" fitting with a gauge on it leading to the vacuum pump. watch the gauge not the dish and when you reach your -29.9 start your timer for 3 minutes. when the time is up you are done.
your oil will remain "puffed looking" in the dish but should be the consistancy of thick cold tree sap.
now ideally you would want a vacuum vessel that could hold your entire dish with room to spare. often times when running larger amounts the oil gets stuck to the top of the bowl seal kit, easily remedied with a freezer. but the results will be the same either way, but the bowl seal lid will be about 500$ cheaper.
your oil will still have bubbles in it! do not panic or worry, this cannot be avoided because scrapping your oil up creates these bubbles! they are just the ambient air that surrounded your scrapping environment. however the product can be instantly smoked with no "sizzle" "snap crackle pop" or anything like that. it melts and then vaporizes silently and should be very smooth on your throat.
telling you guys.. ive done it for years..
heatless vac purging, and a STRONG vac as well as proper spray conditions AND fresh bud.. make for the best oil
ok so you want the best oil do you..
been making oil for 6 + years now..
this was a message to a member on another forum
i dont care to edit it it will do fine
well to start off you should never pump bho while it is still in a solution, the butane is in too great a ratio at this point and you risk an explosion.
im not sure if you need a stronger pump simply because i do not know which pump you have now. however i recommend this and will never buy another pump, http://www.yellowjacket.com/product/681
i have the 6 cfm model which is plenty strong for our application.
and yes i have a very specific technique. its simple to be honest, and takes a very short amount of time. i am of the belief that there is only one correct way to do this as the extraction is chemical.
first, glass tubes. dont go larger than 2 oz tubes, running above 2 oz and the quality begins to decline. you start extracting chlorophyll if the butane (assuming its vector) is in contact with the herb for extended periods of time. (this is because vector, as well as all canned butane, uses propane as a propellent. nothing wrong with this as propane is only one atom off on the molecular level, but you start extracting other things because of it. so unless you use pure n-butane from airgas or equivalent...) so again small tube! the dimensions of my largest tube is roughly 12" long 1.5" wide, and holds about 2 oz absolutely crammed.
now you also want to focus on the way you spray
because the evaporation process of butane creates cold temperatures, you make your terpenes and other essential oils vulnerable to heat at the point of evaporation.
in other words, DO NOT give separate "blasts" of butane through your tube. the temperature change puts your oil more at risk.
what you want to do is start off your spray slowly, put as little pressure on the can as possible, let the butane drip out. right to the point of it hitting the glass collection tray, then "blast" it through fast.
now you just sit and wait for about 10 or so minutes while the butane evaporates off. i rock the dish back and forth until the solution doesn't run anymore, it should appear stable, very gooey, but shouldn't run or slosh at all like the solution did. about the consistency of warm honey.
at this point you want to act fast quickly putting it under a strong vacuum. i do this using the bowl seal set found here http://www.pump-n-seal.com/info.htm
just bring your dish to wherever your vacuum is located, put the bowl seal lid on your dish (best dish btw is a 9.5" pie dish) i dont use the "tab checks"
it comes with, i put a suction cup over the hole. i press down on the suction cup with vacuum hose coming from a "T" fitting with a gauge on it leading to the vacuum pump. watch the gauge not the dish and when you reach your -29.9 start your timer for 3 minutes. when the time is up you are done.
your oil will remain "puffed looking" in the dish but should be the consistancy of thick cold tree sap.
now ideally you would want a vacuum vessel that could hold your entire dish with room to spare. often times when running larger amounts the oil gets stuck to the top of the bowl seal kit, easily remedied with a freezer. but the results will be the same either way, but the bowl seal lid will be about 500$ cheaper.
your oil will still have bubbles in it! do not panic or worry, this cannot be avoided because scrapping your oil up creates these bubbles! they are just the ambient air that surrounded your scrapping environment. however the product can be instantly smoked with no "sizzle" "snap crackle pop" or anything like that. it melts and then vaporizes silently and should be very smooth on your throat.
telling you guys.. ive done it for years..
heatless vac purging, and a STRONG vac as well as proper spray conditions AND fresh bud.. make for the best oil
