Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Countyboy88 said:
Hey everyone, i figured id ask my question here first and see if i can avoid starting a new thread.

Basically, i may or may not know some people who are interested in BHO, but in small batches. I mean, we are talking maybe 7-14 gs of flower or trim in, 1-3 gs of oil out...nothing too crazy, just personal use.

My question is this: what is the best purge method for small time home users like this? They are looking for a safe and affordable and quality product. Do they really need to drop about $500 on a vac and dessicator and all, or is there a more cost and time effective method for these folks, like: blast, water bath, scrape, winterize. Would something like that be acceptable? Or are there any other good methods i may not be thinking of for the small timer? Thanks a bunch! We here in the northeast are kinda still in the stone ages on alot of this stuff. So glad to see that you cats out west are getting some real work and research done. Big ups to all here at RIU!
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You can purge without vacuum, but not as fast and there are things that you can do with a vacuum, that you can't without. On the other hand, none of our oral meds require a vacuum, as we purge them during decarboxylation in a 250F hot oil bath.

As a measure of how important I think vacuum purging is for vaporizing, I helped pioneer vacuum processing and we have a vacuum desiccator, a vacuum chamber, and a vacuum oven.

You can make your own vacuum chamber relatively inexpensive out of a pressure cooker or other heavy walled cook pot, and cheap single stage pumps can be had under $150. See http://skunkpharmresearch.com/diy-vacuum-purging-chamber/
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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in my opinion, very thin film. very low/constant heat, and for a long time. paying close attention to the bubbles. when the weird shaped big bubbles stop, and all youre seeing is tiny bubbles that all look identical. its basically done at that point.

all a vacuum does is lower the pressure so that the boiling point is lowered and it speeds things up by about 1500x faster than doing it the plain ol way... I think.
 
greenghost420

greenghost420

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good, thats how i do it without a vac. i leave it on the pyrex over a pot of water on the stove. i originally thought i had temps of 160 170 but after further thought it had to be between 100 and 140. common sense goes along ways if you have it!!! thanks for the replies vp and fd...
 
Allan421

Allan421

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oakley1984 said:
no no im not under the impression BC supplies cali lol.... its more along the lines of strains i see here locally... show up as the next big thing in cali etc after they have been circulating here for awhile, eg, i was one of the Very first people to ever smoke god bud, (one of my dealers was "jordan of the islands" ) i find its always "the next great thing" comes out of bc, but its people out of province/country that make it known !
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Wow! Talk about arrogant! Sure, many fine strains have been blended in BC (Marc Emory gave me God seeds in his office in '01 I think it was) but fine strains have come from all over the globe. There is fine breeding work being done all the time, all over the place.
 
Allan421

Allan421

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oakley1984 said:
first ive ever heard of something like that, Or.... you didnt finish cooking it down and were seeing an iso'd down version of what your oil actualy is, i bet if you take that "black goo" and spread it on a rollie, its Super dark golden colored.
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ISO will be very dark green, not golden, appearing black when thick. ISO gets chlorophyll also.
 
Allan421

Allan421

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fdd2blk said:
so there is no law that specifically states making butane hash oil is a felony?

your just taking what's out there and applying it to honey oil, right?

all the clubs here sell it, last time i walked in to any anyways. this is why i'm confused.
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"Section 11379.6(a) states: "Except as otherwise provided by law, every person who compounds, converts, produces, derives, processes, or prepares, either directly or indirectly by chemical extraction or independently by means of chemical synthesis, any controlled substance - shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, five, or seven years and by a fine up to $50,000"
fdd2blk, what don't you understand? I see your 60K+ posts and time on this board. Why are you so confrontational and uninformed? I'm not looking for an argument and ask that you overlook my apparent new arrival here. I have been "around" for 25+ years and reading here for years. You always seem to "know" the correct answer but as often as not you are off track.
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Allan421 said:
ISO will be very dark green, not golden, appearing black when thick. ISO gets chlorophyll also.
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Iso can be very dark green, depending on how it was extracted, but you can also produce an amber or red Iso extract using frozen extraction techniques.

As Oakley alludes to, due to the Beers Lambert effect and anthocyanin pigments present, cannabis oil can look like almost clear stained glass in a thin film and be almost opaque in two thin films. The easiest way that I've found to tell what is darkening the material, is smear it thin on white paper.

If heat was used to remove the Iso, the plant sugars can also be caramelized and darken the oil.
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words! I used 91% ISO, not the 99% like most simply because it is something I would have to order online so 91% is more convenient.
 
greenghost420

greenghost420

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i just did an iso rinse on some shit that i had already used for bho, like a 20 second soak and i got some oil but it was nasty shit
 
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