Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

Matt Rize said:

No, it is with a closed recapture system like a Tamisium Extractor. Lots of really good info on their site. Phillips Rx wins all the cups with a tami.
http://tamisiumextractors.com/



I think for quality you may be correct, but certainly not for safety. The quick wash of open systems is good for primo wax. The recapture of a closed system is far safer.

Grounding your blasting tube is also a must if we are talking safety. Its pretty much a no-brainer, but very few do it.

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I'm glad you brought these up .

I wasn't even considering such an expensive system, when answering bwpz. I was considering: as far as plastic, vs pvc, vs coke bottle, vs copper vs any other kind of *tube*..... Stainless Steel is the best option. with a stainless steel screen would be the safest. As if you drop it, it wont break & if you fuck up the pack, stainless steel mesh screen won't blow out...

So with stainless steel we take shattering, and blowouts out of the equation.. We don't take solvents evaporating into an open atmosphere out of the equation though. I guess if you want to spend another $600 then you can definitly do that. Though I've never had butane explode on me, I've always been obsessive with precaution.


The tamisium is interesting though... I've already spent nearly $500-$600 on my basic materials for my purging.. (tubes, vac pumps, vac chambers, extra screens/corks/pyrex etc.)
I've just never seen enough information anywhere on it... I've never seen any product made from a TE (Tamisium Extractor)... and I've never even spoken to anyone who has used a TE




So, with a TE we wouldn't have to purge, yet we could use it immediately after it comes out, as all butane has been reclaimed into a separate chamber?


Also, how do you get your oil out of that weird chamber it ends up in?

Sr. Verde said:

Also, how do you get your oil out of that weird chamber it ends up in?

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Thats what I was curious about also, he gets a liquid out of that lavender he runs and is able to pour it out.

You guys had me wanting concentrates so I got a little proactive and I:

Grinded up bud.

Shook it up like a mother fucker with a quarter in it to get kief in the bottom.

I wanna get high with my wife when she gets home later yeah!!!!!

Sr. Verde said:

So, with a TA we wouldn't have to purge, yet we could use it immediately after it comes out, as all butane has been reclaimed into a separate chamber?

Also, how do you get your oil out of that weird chamber it ends up in?

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Stil have to purge the bho after getting it out of the chamber. Folks get it out of the chamber with spatulas. Also, as said above, the extraction can come out as a liquid if there is still liquefied gases in the oil (accomplished by keeping the whole process cold). IDK really, but two of my friends are rocking twin tamis.

Matt Rize said:

Stil have to purge the bho after getting it out of the chamber. Folks get it out of the chamber with spatulas. Also, as said above, the extraction can come out as a liquid if there is still liquefied gases in the oil (accomplished by keeping the whole process cold). IDK really, but two of my friends are rocking twin tamis.

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get over there with a cam for a few runs, i want to see video!

I just want to see the product...... My main concern is always the end product, then the process is secondary

tamisium made bho by Phillips Rx. almost done, i think. I'm telling you, this guy is winning all the competitions with his tami.

Try not to "grind" up the herb, just use your two hands to grind it that way. The goal is to knock off trichomes, not tear them apart

I couldnt find too much on YouTube about Tamisium other than their own videos which arent our honey oil...... Looks nifty!

researchkitty said:

I couldnt find too much on YouTube about Tamisium other than their own videos which arent our honey oil...... Looks nifty!

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yeah, the folks i know using tamis are not into giving up the tips. pretty lame but how this industry goes.

If I wanted to make oil with about a $100 investment what would my best bet be? Definitely not trying to blow anything up, especially my hands

Bwpz said:

If I wanted to make oil with about a $100 investment what would my best bet be? Definitely not trying to blow anything up, especially my hands

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Some prefer the glass extraction tubes. Stainless steel is probably safer and just as good, the glass ones can stress fracture from rapid/extreme temperature changes. Just make sure to do it outdoors (not the garage, actually outdoors). You don't see outdoor explosions, just pan fires during purge, which are lower risk. You can easily ground your stainless tube and the pyrex dish with a piece of wire to keep static from sparking a pan fire. Static electricity is what causes most pan fires. Wear safety glasses and have a buddy watch you with fire suppression at hand. The gas vapors are heavier than air so there should be a slight breeze going when you blast to blow the ground cloud away. And use the best gas you can find. Colibri is the best I see in stores. Then purge purge purge, there are several ways to go about this posted here already.

ps. also do not use too small of a filter, especially the first time. thats how blow backs happen.

I run about 2 ounces of herb each tube pack and 2 tubes of butane. For my filter, I just use a coffee filter and a rubber band (a big and strong one ). Would putting on more filters help? A different filter? Cheese cloth? I've never heard much filter discussion on what works the best, and why, and what sucks, and why........ Thanks =)

Bwpz said:

If I wanted to make oil with about a $100 investment what would my best bet be? Definitely not trying to blow anything up, especially my hands

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I would say bed bath and beyond turkey baster, coffee filter, hose clamp, vector oil, Pyrex, razor, parchment, and your good to go for less than 50 bucks

Matt Rize said:

tamisium made bho by Phillips Rx. almost done, i think. I'm telling you, this guy is winning all the competitions with his tami.

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I need moreee info lol

thinking about putting it on my wish list now..

Sr. Verde said:

I need moreee info lol
thinking about putting it on my wish list now..

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for sure. he's a friend of mine, and pretty much the official king of extracts. I can grab a few more pics if you would like, maybe I should ask him lol. their tami website has lots of great info. its more realistic and you get a higher quality product, compared to making CO2 at home with eden lab's extractor. i'm not saying the quality is better than open system (ie the tube), its actually harder to get that quality, and takes some learning. but you can use n-butane instead of the gas mix in vector. n-butane is a better solvent then the vector 3 gas mix so the tami has that advantage.

Matt Rize said:

for sure. he's a friend of mine, and pretty much the official king of extracts. I can grab a few more pics if you would like, maybe I should ask him lol. their tami website has lots of great info. its more realistic and you get a higher quality product, compared to making CO2 at home with eden lab's extractor. i'm not saying the quality is better than open system (ie the tube), its actually harder to get that quality, and takes some learning. but you can use n-butane instead of the gas mix in vector. n-butane is a better solvent then the vector 3 gas mix so the tami has that advantage.

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Yeah you can just get pure N-Butane correct?

And too bad the quality can suffer

More pics would be cool, or maybe one explination on why the TE technique is more difficult to fully comprehend than an open tube/pan method

Sr. Verde said:

Yeah you can just get pure N-Butane correct?

And too bad the quality can suffer

More pics would be cool, or maybe one explination on why the TE technique is more difficult to fully comprehend than an open tube/pan method

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quality suffers if you run it too slow at too high of temps. pretty straight forward. it takes less learning than making ice wax...

So you just use an ice bath on the bottom and heating pads on the top? Speeds up the process.. yeah?

That's not tricky

Vacuums are tricky..!

i found out about these a few months ago . then a local disp. bought one so i have smoked the tsunami extractor hash a few days ago purged in a teflon bag 10X....and it is great!! . i will be buying one next week . i am all about the no waste...
matt do you have any links to info on others using the T.e. thanks
i will have a thread up as soon as it arrives..