Started 7th week flowering...

Now I don't know if this is considered a problem, but as you can see in the picture, theres more than just an apparent PH problem. (all plants get 6.8, this one just doesn't like it, all the others do.)

All the skinny growth up top is new, it did this about 2 weeks ago, where what appears to be the top cola on the plant growing real tall and skinny, then filling in...Should this be happening so late in flowering? about 35% of the hairs are red now and I thought the last time that happened it was the last of the new growth.

I havn't given them any nutes for a week thinking they'd likely be ready in the next 2 weeks(well some of them).

But it appears to me like it's still growing taller when the rest of the plant is ripe...

Directly below the new growth is that bunch of buds and leaves...that area is about 4.5" in diameter and incredibly thick with buds, but all the chutes and new bud grew about an inch over the last three days...

I guess the whole point of this ramblin' is to ask, should I give them more nutes?

Is this normal?

I tried to avoid giving them more nutes from reading too many can trigger a "re-veg" effect...

The only thing I've been giving them is 2tbs molasses per gal. I'm just concerned because a lot of the lower parts of the plant are almost ready to harvest....and now I have all this new growth coming in around the colas on the chutes...

Any help would be appreciated.

If the rest of the plant looks ready to harvest, harvest it. Theres no harm in letting the new growth carry on after that.
I can't see how giving it more bloom nutes would make it revert to veg. Only altering the light cycle can do that.

I had this happen on a couple bag seed plants i was growing a couple years back. The top bud did exactly what yours are doing. It never filled in but it just ended up looking like i had snatched a big piece out of the middle of the cola. Your plant does not look ready to harvest yet. Trichromes are what you need to be looking at not the pistils. You will need a jewelers loop or magnifying glass. The tricromes will go from clear to cloudy to amber. When 50% are amber it's ready.

Hairy Bob said:

If the rest of the plant looks ready to harvest, harvest it. Theres no harm in letting the new growth carry on after that.
I can't see how giving it more bloom nutes would make it revert to veg. Only altering the light cycle can do that.

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Well that particular plant has around a week left before I cut it, I guess I'll let it use up the nutes in the fan leaves. They're starting to yellow after this last week of just plain water with molasses, but they have a lot more before they are ready to fall off.

this looks like a Sativa so therefore your flowering time should be close to 10-12 weeks. it really looks like you have an overnute of N and possibly a light leak.

smokeybandit22 said:

this looks like a Sativa so therefore your flowering time should be close to 10-12 weeks. it really looks like you have an overnute of N and possibly a light leak.

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Havn't given it any quantities of N since like, week 2 of 12/12 when I gave them a boost for the stretch. However there is some blood/bone meal mixed in the soil, and this plant seems to be far more sensitive than the other 3 plants in the same soil and same water.

I don't know about a light leak, I have the closet sealed and theres no even a light in the room they are in. The lights are off 5pm-5am so theres sunlight. The concern from me was that theres 3 other plants in there with this one, and none of them have had the same symptoms.

As for it being sativa, theres another plant in there that is has entirely sativa traits and it looks similiar but much further behind in its bud development. Thats why I considered it a well mixed sativa/indica, cause the hairs are turning amber in the middle of the plant and the trichs are mostly cloudy with about 10% overall amber.. The sativa in there has very few cloudy trichs and almost all clear, that was my prospective on it.

judging by the photo, she has probably had her fill of N for some time now. 2 weeks without-shit she is just catching up from before. Sativas def known for the late budding density along with low tolerance levels of ferts, escpecially N. the way those old fans are curled and cupped and stretched and thinned out make this likely.

post up some more pics. good u can rule out the light leak so u know it is not revegging.

and according to you math, you gave it extra N for the stretch at 5 weeks. really needs to get it if even at all is 1-3 weeks of flower, than it gets cut back and Pk increased. 100% too much N during flowering will slow your bud growth and encourage shoot growth. add on top a Sativa that doesnt even like high nutes and you have your plant. solution is easy

smokeybandit22 said:

and according to you math, you gave it extra N for the stretch at 5 weeks. really needs to get it if even at all is 1-3 weeks of flower, than it gets cut back and Pk increased. 100% too much N during flowering will slow your bud growth and encourage shoot growth. add on top a Sativa that doesnt even like high nutes and you have your plant. solution is easy

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I don't know where 5 weeks came from, it's been 5 weeks since I gave it any N from watering. If it gets any N its the small amounts still in the soil from my bone/blood meal mix. I did the cutting back and started them flowering nutes on the 2nd-3rd week of flowering.

Thanks for the help, I'll just keep giving them straight water with molasses and let the plant just absorb all thats left in the soil. Hopefully this way everything will return to normal and the buds will continue to fatten like they were.

Thanks again.

ur thread reads '7 weeks of flowering'. 12/12 was 2 weeks ago when u said was the liast time you gave N. that would put them at 5 weeks.

smokeybandit22 said:

ur thread reads '7 weeks of flowering'. 12/12 was 2 weeks ago when u said was the liast time you gave N. that would put them at 5 weeks.

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Sorry for the confusion, I veg'd these plants almost 2 months(one only a month). They've been in 12/12 for 7 weeks, I gave them Nitrogen nutes 5 weeks ago. I use weak dilution with my nutes cause I feared burning them due to the nutes in the soil(and those arn't very strong either).

But I'm pretty sure you're right, that plant is the only one showing problems and has shown problems the entire grow. I guess that soil...even as weak as I tried to make it to prevent burn, was just enough to make that plant uncomfortable...

I'll keep just using plain water and molasses and hope those the plant goes back to normal..

Sorry about that I should have been more clear, thanks for helping me.

This is only my third grow, and its going real well compared to my first and even a lot better than my second...

Still a lot to learn, and since this grow all 4 plants have different reactions to everything I do it makes it harder but a lot more informative.

Thanks again, if you have any more tips lemme know.

hey man no need to be sorry, just making sure I wasnt too stoned,lol. 3rd grow-is awesome right? man the shit to learn never stops. every single gal even if from clones, will react differently and do diff things. almost like they are alive,lol.
that pic doesnt tell the whole story. can you post some more?
the cupping of those leves could be low humidity levels as well. why her cola stretched like that is a bit odd. it seems that gal is smack up against the wall. is there anyway to postion her directly under the light or will that screw up your grow room?

smokeybandit22 said:

hey man no need to be sorry, just making sure I wasnt too stoned,lol. 3rd grow-is awesome right? man the shit to learn never stops. every single gal even if from clones, will react differently and do diff things. almost like they are alive,lol.
that pic doesnt tell the whole story. can you post some more?
the cupping of those leves could be low humidity levels as well. why her cola stretched like that is a bit odd. it seems that gal is smack up against the wall. is there anyway to postion her directly under the light or will that screw up your grow room?

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Its on the side cause they all started directly under it when I started flowering, and tamed them as they grew and to do a "scrog" effect i bent all the main stalks to opposite corners(there being 4 plants) so all the chutes would work upwards. It is kinda on the side but thats only cause the other 2 plants directly under the light are the first two who will be ready to harvest(based on trichs and hair coloring)


After even one is just harvested I'm rotating this plant and the other pure sativa so they get the next 2-4 weeks in the pure of the light.

It's def not pro setup, in fact this setup cost me under 250$ for everything. My ridiculous setup in a grow room took me half these plants life to get it right(new house, new limits, new ways of growing everything)

P.S. I forgot to say that today I cut all 15 peices of yarn I used to tie the plants down with. They didn't move much and 3 of the plants(even though in a strong breeze) began to sag a lot more when I cut the strings due to the bud weight..


P.S.S. I have a 20" box fan providing wind in the 2.5x4x6ft closet I have.

A small "Honeywell super turbo" fan cools the bulb and ballast, and two 4" duct fans venting to the attic hole to remove the warm air...

Long story=short....honeywell fan was free and works AMAZINGLY and duct fans were purchased at home depot for under 25$. If I were smart and used better calculations I would have gotten a 6" exhaust or better...instead I bought 2 4"(one intake one ehaust) and quickly realized with a temp of 80-90 constant I needed cooler temps even with a lot of yeast+sugar in there.

I didnt base the exhaust on the heat of the air coming in....a lot of people can't vent dirtectly from outside. Its usally 60-70F at night and around 80 most days=75-85.


The humidity is anywhere from 20-50% depending on how much water I add/yeast+sugar water/weather I have.

I monitor it constantly and thats the usual range.

I'm very patient and am willing to wait months(2-3) if it took that to flower these plants correctly. I hope this time I can harvest them on cycle like I want to.

In my opinion, I'd rather wait and enjoy what I grew than harvest and envy what I could grow..


Again thanks, I ramble on.