Started with flowering clones in DWC.....

looks gross. i cant help because i only do soil. at least im bumpin it tho lol

I need to mention that with all of my problems I do manage to keep all three of my babies at a pH of 6.0 . We lost the ISS due to my overzealous neem treatment, I attempted to dip it in a small bowl of the the soap-neem oil-water mixture. This coated the leaves with neem oil eventually suffocating them, I tried fruitlessly to revive it but its a lost cause. I was impatient and killed it. Anyways I've posted problems with my leaves on the MJ problem pages here is a link if you want to help... and please help. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/324002-look-my-poor-brown-dotted.html

Ok first off that clone you bought was a lost casue. He gave you a small clone with spider mites and mold all over it. That green all over the top of the rockwool was mold. You are suppose to keep the rockwool covered when you are cloning plants becasue of the high humidity the rockwool is always damp and when its damp and has all the direct exposure to light it casues mold. 2nd off where do you live. You should be able to go to a dispensary and pick your own damn clone for 25 dollars. You should be able to walk through pick which you think is the healthiest and they should be a nice size and not 25 bucks i pay 25 dollars and there like 8 inches tall and super healthy and i live in a state where its illegal. You living in a state where it is legal should make them cheaper. Anyway find a better dispensary and get yourself some good healthy clones. Second off the roots look healthy right now. However in Hydro setups that can change overnight. You said your temps are around 80-85 but what is your res temp? How hot is that water getting? Anything over 70 is not acceptable and you will most likely be seeing some root rot soon. Yes the nutrients can casue a brown/discoloring of your roots. This is what i thought was going on with mine at first. 3 days later they were covered in a brown slimy gunk. this was due to light leak/res temps to high. you MUST make sure the temps stay between 60-70 and you have no light getting in. A good preventative measure is to go buy some h202 like 35% and put about 5ml per gallon of water you have in your buckets. 5ml=1tsp so you can do your own measurements on how big your resivoir is. Anyway about your clones you got from a friend, how are they looking now? How long where they in flower before you got them and tried to revert them back to the veg stage? Once a plant is in flower for over two weeks it can be very difficult to bring it back to veg and sometimes will not work. Are your still growing the single leaves? Sometimes if they are in flower long enough and you re-veg them they will only grow the single leaves again, its just what happens when you mess with its light cycle and stress it out. Also i have seen and heard when messing with it to far into flower that when you flower them now since they got so stressed and confused they can turn hermi. But if that happens it might happen to all of them so atleast you dont have to worry about pollinating your other plants. Anyway i will subscribe and any question you may have just feel free to ask. Just make sure you get some h202 not hydrogen peroxide the h202 cost like 40 bucks for a bottle that will last you 2 years. Add this now as a preventatvie measure, trust me when you get root rot it is such a damn headache its not worth it. Also let me know what your water (res) temps are and make sure there below 70 and dont get any higher then 70 at anytime throughout the day. The way i keep my res temps down is by filling up water bottles and putting them in the freezer then when there frozen put them in my res and switching them out when there not ice anymore. Anyway goodluck and let me know if i forgot something or you have any other questions. GOODLUCK

llop1103 what should i use to put atop my rockwool?

Are you talking about just in the cloning stage or are you already in veg? Are you using hydro or are you growing in soil?

I saw above that you stated you only do soil. So why would the rockwool not be covered up with soil even in the clone stage. There is no need for them not to be in soil. Unless you are not sure you can root your clones and you have to see root development to know your clones are rooting. But you can normally tell your clones are rooting from the way they look and there growth, or after 1 week you can just transplant into a bigger pot and when you turn the cup over and carefully tap it to get your plant out of the little pot you have it in for cloning you should see if it has roots coming out of the rockwool. For cloning just put it in rockwool then put it in a red solo cup filled 3/4 way with soil then place the rockwool in the cup then cover it up with soil

thanks dude!

Yep no problem just dont let them sit out in just rockwool or you will prolly get mold trust me i know from experience and you dont want it cause its a bitch to get rid off and will spread and cause your leaves to discolor and die!! Stay green people!! Keep them ladies healthy

llop1103-

Thanks for taking the time to check it out and help me. I did buy some 34% H202 last weekend and I do the water bottle thing. My water temps are at 68 degrees on average. I have no idea how long the mother was in flowering when the clones were cut, nor do I have a clue how long they were under the 12/12 as the cuttlings developed roots. My cheese plant is growing a normal leaf! The newest one anyways.

Sensi Star- Last weekend I hacked off all the mutant growth. This week there is tons of 'normal' shaped pot leaves. The leaves are shape normal enough but they are crisping. I am not sure if it is a cal-mag deficiency or a nute burn. The leaves get little rust colored dots on the tip followed by yellowing of the area between dots and eventual drying of the leaf and then crispy dead leaf.

Headband- There continues to be chunks missing from leaves. I found a single ant in the grow room a random day, perhaps only a few ants come and only when I am not looking and chomp up my leaves. But why only headband. She has the brown spots too, tiny and clustered not necessarily starting from the tip, but sometimes on the sides. There is a leaf with a dark mark in the middle, the darker spot is dryer in texture and seems to be pulling the rest of the leaf towards it causing it to pucker. The roots look darker this week, see for yourself in the photos.

Cheese- The newest sets of leaves are normal looking pot leaves! yay, less stress! But there is the problem of the tiny dots on the leaf causing the whole thing to turn yellow. The problem does seem to be starting with the more mature leaves.

Hope you know that the cheese strain is a bit smelly after half way in flowering. Be careful

MmmHmmmm, I have heard that. When I flower I will have the exhaust line leading into a bucket of O.N.A. and soil-moist.

Heres a couple more pictures, one is headband straight on (the camera is turned) and the other is all three plants together!

Damn looking sexy (i Mean the plants) hahaha you to. Anyway keep up the good work. Did you go out and buy that as a clone i dont remember seeing that at first mabye i missed an update

I got down to it and cleaned every last piece of tube and air-stone and bucket with bleach water.
sidenote-
I used to be a pool maintenance girl and one thing I learned about eliminating algae is that you absolutely have to scrub every last centimeter of the pool to expose every last centimeter of the algae's surface area to the chlorine shock treatment. If a tiny piece of algae is tucked away in a crack it can quickly multiply and reinfest the entire pool.

So since the root rot is essentially the same as pool algae/bacteria strains I did the same "field day" job on the bucket and air tubes and stone as I would do on a pink algae infested pool. So after cleaning I concocted my DWC pot potion. Or nutrients as you may know it. I AM USING 3 gallons of water in my 5 gallon buckets and heres the recipe:

1st 3 gallons H2O
2nd 15 mL H2O2 (34%)
mix
3rd 12mL FloraMicro
mix
4th 18mL FloraBloom
mix
5th 12mL Cal-Mag
mix
6th 3mL MadFarmer Get It Up
mix



Next, I trimmed all the peculiar and necrotic leaves from all three plants and cleaned the space with a swiffer duster wipe.

the end, for now

OK i just went back a page and saw your post where you updated pics wow they are def going back into veg strong. They are starting to look really nice. IM glad they are starting to take well to the re-veg some plants dont. I got 6 trimmings i just cut off my Big BUddah Blue cheese last night which is 3 weeks into flowering they were lower branches so i was going to cut them either way so i figured hey why not try to get 6 more out of it and try cloning the cuttings lol i have nothing to lose. Anyway enough about me, its really good to know you did a complete scrub down it took me about 4-5 of these and fixing the other problems to finally get some healthy roots. My roots where nice and white then started turning brown like yours. I freaked out and people told me they looked fine and not to worry that its just nute stain and advanced nutrients stains roots alot darker than other nutes. I was still worried but didnt do anything. 3 days later Full on root rot. After i fixed the root rot problemand clean and changed the res everything looked good. 2 days after the res change white snot looking gunk all over the roots. I say all these problems were due to light leaking in my res which was a very little amount of light but any light no matter how little it is getting into your res can casue a problem. The other was the res temps. I did some more h202 and cleaned the res again fixed the light problem through frozen water bottles in to fix the res temp and added only my 2 main nutes at 1/2 strength and none of the additives i had been adding like superthrive assome blossom sweet etc. etc. etc. Anyway i would try to even keep your res temps a little lower if you could you dont want it anywhere near 70 or hitting 70 my roots are loving a nice cool 64-65 range and they are looking betetr than ever. Just stay on the h202 to make sure your roots stay sexy and you should be golden for an amazing grow. Also what are the temps in the grow area. The leaves look like their curling like bananas which is most likly a heat issue but the yellowing of leaves and rust looking color is most likly a cal-mag problem. Cal-mag problems only really happen in flowerin which is when they use more cal-mag then normal and more then most basic nutes supply which is why during flowering i always use magical from technoflora so mabye your plants hadnt reverted back into veg yet and your veg nutes didnt have near the amount of cal-mag the plants needed since they thought they were still in flower. I would monitor it for a few days and see if it gets worse If it gets worse go get some additive with Cal-Mag in it if it doesnt get worse i was dead on the money and the plant had the cal-mag problem since it still thought it was in flower. Anyway sorry for rambling and writing a book im feeling mighty nice right now and just trying to help you out in detail with everything so you can have a great successful grow and not make the same mistakes i made or run into the same problems i ran into. I dont wish extra work on anyone and if it takes me 20 mintues to write a response and help you out that 20 mintues is worth saving you money, lots of time, and lots of headaches on dealing with the issues i dealt with. Anyway let me know if you have any other questions and let me know those temps in the grow area. Keep up the good work there looking great!!

llop1103 said:

Ok first off that clone you bought was a lost casue. He gave you a small clone with spider mites and mold all over it. 2nd off where do you live. You should be able to go to a dispensary and pick your own damn clone for 25 dollars. You should be able to walk through pick which you think is the healthiest and they should be a nice size and not 25 bucks i pay 25 dollars and there like 8 inches tall and super healthy and i live in a state where its illegal. You living in a state where it is legal should make them cheaper. Anyway find a better dispensary and get yourself some good healthy clones.

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This is the first thing I would do. I get my clones for $10 each. Great genetics, no bugs, no mold, just great plants. You are going to spend more money saving those plants than it would cost to buy new ones, in my opinion at least. Plus the clones you buy are still in veg mode... no messing around getting them back to veg then flowering again. I just don't see the point.

I just got back in town and im curious how your girls are doing. Any updates on their health or size. Put some picks up and/or let us know how they are doing

SENSI STAR​

I decided to run her on only H202 enriched and pH balanced water for a week and see how she does. That was last week, so I will post two weeks ago and then this week so you can see and compare. I did chop off a branch that had lower leaves that had some powdery shit on them. I feared powdery mildew and took action. Honestly I try my darnest with SensiStar but deep down she is the least favorite child I think she can sense it, the way children can. And it does effect them, both children and cannabis. But she does seem to be looking better, and for sure her leaf texture has lost all crisp-ness.

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