Starting indoor, moving outdoor. Monster plants?

psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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I have posted similar threads to this one but I cant seem to get an
answer that i'm looking for. I'm going to try to re word this so it is
better understood.

If I vegitate indoor for a month and a half and then put my plants
in the ground by mid april (13 and a half hours of daylight) will it go
into flower? I'm not trying to get an early harvest, I plant on harvesting
around late september to october. I would like a few extra months of
vegitation is why I want to try this method. I have them on an 18/6 light
cycle as of now and would like to know when or if I should start dropping
the dark hours to be able to accomplish this goal.

So is it possible or do you have any expirience with this method? They
are very very nice genetics and I dont want them to go to waste.
Will they flower when I put them outside and revegiate and continue
growing till fall or will the shock and sit there and hardly do anything?
Please I really really need help with this situation. Thank you in advance!
 
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viper2020cobra

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If they did flower which does happen sometimes they will reveg and continue growing larger when the light changes .

But by late April you should be good to go
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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By mid april my plants will be 6 weeks old, so do you think at that
age they will flower? I was thinking instead of using 18/6 light cycle
that maybe I should use 20/4 or 24hr cycle till a week before april then
start doing the drop. I know plants eventually flower even in 18/6 cycle.

But I was thinking that if they stay around 20/4 then a week before I
put them out then drop them slowly to 14/10 if they do decide to flower
by may i'll be getting 14 hrs sunlight they wouldnt have time to stay in flower
long enough to do much harm. I'm just afraid if they start showing sex a while
before I put them out then they will stay in flower longer causing them to
take more time to re vegitate.
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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psychadelibud said:
I have posted similar threads to this one but I cant seem to get an
answer that i'm looking for. I'm going to try to re word this so it is
better understood.

If I vegitate indoor for a month and a half and then put my plants
in the ground by mid april (13 and a half hours of daylight) will it go
into flower? I'm not trying to get an early harvest, I plant on harvesting
around late september to october. I would like a few extra months of
vegitation is why I want to try this method. I have them on an 18/6 light
cycle as of now and would like to know when or if I should start dropping
the dark hours to be able to accomplish this goal.

So is it possible or do you have any expirience with this method? They
are very very nice genetics and I dont want them to go to waste.
Will they flower when I put them outside and revegiate and continue
growing till fall or will the shock and sit there and hardly do anything?
Please I really really need help with this situation. Thank you in advance!
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Last season I veged for about 4 weeks , then flowered indoors just to show sex , then put them outdoors , most returned to vegging again within weeks , 2 out of 12 never stopped flowering.
i think it's not just the length of the days but also the gradual lengthening of the days that tells the plants to veg
 
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viper2020cobra

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You know plants will eventually flower even in a 18/6 cycle? ......your a retard then because that doesn't happen.

You seriously need to go and get some learning Google is your friend then you might be able to make a run at growing
 
doowmd

doowmd

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this is why it's best to start them under more normal amounts of light= 13-14 hr's on = basically the same amount they'll get when they go out in April. Yours will try to start budding but they will revert. But this is time wasted. The time it takes them to revert coulda been time spent continuing to veg
So next year just start them under more normal conditions = 13/8 or there-a-bouts.

PS: some take longer to reveg than others due to genetics, but it will take about a month for yours to acclimate to the outdoors and start full on veg mode again.
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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How about some real life experience here...
Like this:
"Last season I veged for about 4 weeks , then flowered indoors just to show sex , then put them outdoors , most returned to vegging again within weeks , 2 out of 12 never stopped flowering.
i think it's not just the length of the days but also the gradual lengthening of the days that tells the plants to veg"
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I too am thinking about starting 4 or 5 indoors, and then moving outside...

I understand, what might happen... I had plants started outside in March in Cali, Start to Bud when 'June Gloom' hit S Cali... So when plant stalled in bud, trying to go back into Veg, I just pulled it and started over... Started new seed and it grew to 6 feet in remaining grow...
I am going to do some Guerrilla farming this year [corn field maybe]... and corn is "Knee High, by the fourth of July" around here...
When should I plant ? I want to grow clone to put into ground... Have clones, will plant...
So if I can plant when days are longer, IDK... what do you think is best...
I have just never put clones [on 18/6] into the intense outside sun shine ... So, I wonder the same thing as OP...
 
BroJohnson

BroJohnson

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doowmd said:
this is why it's best to start them under more normal amounts of light= 13-14 hr's on = basically the same amount they'll get when they go out in April. Yours will try to start budding but they will revert. But this is time wasted. The time it takes them to revert coulda been time spent continuing to veg
So next year just start them under more normal conditions = 13/8 or there-a-bouts.

PS: some take longer to reveg than others due to genetics, but it will take about a month for yours to acclimate to the outdoors and start full on veg mode again.
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So you suggest starting the seeds @ 14/10 for vegg for about 5 weeks then throw them out Mid May where they will continue to recieve 14+ hrs of light.

psychadelibud said:
I have posted similar threads to this one but I cant seem to get an
answer that i'm looking for. I'm going to try to re word this so it is
better understood.

If I vegitate indoor for a month and a half and then put my plants
in the ground by mid april (13 and a half hours of daylight) will it go
into flower? I'm not trying to get an early harvest, I plant on harvesting
around late september to october. I would like a few extra months of
vegitation is why I want to try this method. I have them on an 18/6 light
cycle as of now and would like to know when or if I should start dropping
the dark hours to be able to accomplish this goal.

So is it possible or do you have any expirience with this method? They
are very very nice genetics and I dont want them to go to waste.
Will they flower when I put them outside and revegiate and continue
growing till fall or will the shock and sit there and hardly do anything?
Please I really really need help with this situation. Thank you in advance!
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Thank you for asking this question, I have still yet to find sure 100% an answer, I know everyone has there own different methods, but there has to be some sure way of doing this to avoid the plant from going into a reveg state after trying to flower from going indoor to outdoor.
 
SoCal88

SoCal88

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I do this all year long !! This is the 3rd year. I veg my plants indoors for about 2 months. I put them outside and they flower. I never have a problem with them reverting back to veg. I try to put 3 plants outside every 30 days so I have a perpetual 30 day harvest. I've read a lot of peoples comments and I'm not saying they're wrong but it doesn't work that way for me !! I put the first ones out around March 1st and the last ones out in September.. I'm down close to Tijuana so my growing season is longer than most.. Looking forward to my first harvest around May 1st.. BTW.. I mainly grow Strawberry Diesel, if that matters.
 
NugHunter

NugHunter

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easiest is to start with feminized seeds or baby female clones and veg indoors on a 24/0 or 18/6 for 2 months...top the plants and lst plants so you have a nice bushy plants to put outdoors...dig large hole or use really large 10+gallon pot filled with a good soil mixture...place plants outside.. ..water ,feed ..and let mother nature do its thing....most likely they will start flowering late july early august..then really beef up mid setember early october..let em go until first frost or 2 and harvest
:)


i just started 5 autos which will go outside first week in april and be done mid may...i have 3 regular feminised that will be started late this month and will go outside early-mid may and hopefully will harvest them in october :)
 
BroJohnson

BroJohnson

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mrCRC420

mrCRC420

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psychadelibud said:
If I vegitate indoor for a month and a half and then put my plants
in the ground by mid april (13 and a half hours of daylight) will it go
into flower?
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13on/11 = Longer Flower time (less dark time = less grow time) and bigger buds (more light = more energy), 12/12 = Standard Flowering, 11on/13, Faster Flower time, etc.

I think you can go to like 14/10 and still flower but I wouldn't push past 13/11 (but 13/11 definitely will flower them). Also, might I suggest digging holes for your plants and filling that w/ organic soil so they have something great to eat. Reeeally wish I was permitted to grow outdoors :/
 
petert

petert

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I'm up in Oregon and put mine out in mid May and are 18-24 inches tall. That's a pretty good start, and they have never started to flower and reveg.
 
petert

petert

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BroJohnson said:
What light cycle do you veg at? Do you slowly lower the light down to 14/10 before you throw them outside?
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I believe my friend scaled back from 18/6 to 16/8 gradually.. In Mid May here we are at 15+ hours of light. I still transitioned the plants to outdoors bringing them in at night for a few days. Two years ago we had really mild days and nights and I just planted them and let the go without transitioning.
 
BroJohnson

BroJohnson

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petert said:
I believe my friend scaled back from 18/6 to 16/8 gradually.. In Mid May here we are at 15+ hours of light. I still transitioned the plants to outdoors bringing them in at night for a few days. Two years ago we had really mild days and nights and I just planted them and let the go without transitioning.
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Alright sweet, yeah probably going to put some kind of screen over them the first few days once they first go outside so the sun isnt too intense for them.
 
petert

petert

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Probably a good idea..Our sun isn't as intense up here by then. Our average temps mid may is low 70's daytime/ Upper 40's low 50's nights.
 
doowmd

doowmd

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Here's my last word on it: Ppl start them out on 13.5 hrs of light and 11.5 hrs dark because thats what they'll (the plants) b getting when u transplant in april/may, and that's one less stresser on the plants. (transitioning from say 18,17,or 16 hrs inside to 13.5-14 hr.s of light outside is one more adjustment)
this cuts cost on the electric also fwiw
14-10 works fine, 13.5/11.5 is just a friends suggestion that he'd "dialed into" for his neck of the woods ;)

anyway, food for thought...
 
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