Stealth Cabinets
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stelthy
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Ok I am sold I like them!! .. I dont know how many it would be best to have but to cover 4 Vegging ladies I would take a guess n say 2
I am going to see if I can find any on E-Bay or at a more friendly price - STELTHY 
Ok I am sold I like them!! .. I dont know how many it would be best to have but to cover 4 Vegging ladies I would take a guess n say 2
I am going to see if I can find any on E-Bay or at a more friendly price - STELTHY
stelthy
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Ohhhhh SHIT I WANT ONE, I WANT ONE, I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I think this would be even better for you I am going to look into these myself I really want one of these - STELTHY
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Ohhhhh SHIT I WANT ONE, I WANT ONE, I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I think this would be even better for you
I am going to look into these myself I really want one of these - STELTHY After researching yesterday im so tempted to go with LED all the way. Theres a guy on ebay i was recommended who seems very honest about LED, i asked him for just a veg light and this is what he said, very honest answer which makes me think he wont try and blag me
In all honesty:
1)If its just for vegging, use flourescents, even normal household cf lights will work ok, use daylight ones (not warm light or white light) or buy the proper 125/250 watt compact grow ones from a grow shop.
2) Dont buy any led lights except mine, they are all crap. To cover 1 m2 with my lights costs £600 (for flowering, £400 for vegging), a UFO is what £150 (and a ripoff at that price). You need 210 watts of GOOD leds per m2 for flowering and about 140 watts for vegging. a 135 watt UFO is about enough for 1 plant - maybe. One of my 70 watt lights puts out WAY more light than a 135 watt ufo, because the leds are the best you can get and are about 3 times as efficient. PLEASE dsont waste your money on UFO's or any of the other led lights on ebay. There are 3 decent led lights, Lightblaze, Procyon and mine (and the others are 110 volts only and not as good as mine!). Thats it! For vegging stick to flourescents, any led light worth buying is too expensive to use just for that, only if you plan on flowering as well is it really worth it OR if you have a very restricted space like a cupboard and even flourescents give of too much heat.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but honest (and good) advice! You can also buy good cheap 2 or 4 flourescent TUBE fittings at a diy shop and buy standard (or special ones for vegging)tube flourescents which may well be cheaper. BUT you cant use flourescents with a timer without a relay box or you will kill the timer pretty quick.
Im so so tempted, its not so much the cost its the fact i dont want to buy one and end up dissapointed then switch back to HPS.
If i can be convinced i can get as good a yeild with as good a quaility bud in the same time as i would with HPS id be willing to try LED in both my veg and flowering cabs.
In all honesty:
1)If its just for vegging, use flourescents, even normal household cf lights will work ok, use daylight ones (not warm light or white light) or buy the proper 125/250 watt compact grow ones from a grow shop.
2) Dont buy any led lights except mine, they are all crap. To cover 1 m2 with my lights costs £600 (for flowering, £400 for vegging), a UFO is what £150 (and a ripoff at that price). You need 210 watts of GOOD leds per m2 for flowering and about 140 watts for vegging. a 135 watt UFO is about enough for 1 plant - maybe. One of my 70 watt lights puts out WAY more light than a 135 watt ufo, because the leds are the best you can get and are about 3 times as efficient. PLEASE dsont waste your money on UFO's or any of the other led lights on ebay. There are 3 decent led lights, Lightblaze, Procyon and mine (and the others are 110 volts only and not as good as mine!). Thats it! For vegging stick to flourescents, any led light worth buying is too expensive to use just for that, only if you plan on flowering as well is it really worth it OR if you have a very restricted space like a cupboard and even flourescents give of too much heat.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but honest (and good) advice! You can also buy good cheap 2 or 4 flourescent TUBE fittings at a diy shop and buy standard (or special ones for vegging)tube flourescents which may well be cheaper. BUT you cant use flourescents with a timer without a relay box or you will kill the timer pretty quick.
Im so so tempted, its not so much the cost its the fact i dont want to buy one and end up dissapointed then switch back to HPS.
If i can be convinced i can get as good a yeild with as good a quaility bud in the same time as i would with HPS id be willing to try LED in both my veg and flowering cabs.
If i did go LED throughout ive read there will be no need for a ballast and also no need to have to drill holes in the wall for intake etc. Obvioulsy this means i would either have to keep the ballast i have bought or sell it on which isnt a problem.
I take it though i would still be able to use my fan?
I take it though i would still be able to use my fan?
stelthy
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If you choose LED thats cool, Keep the Mylar and the and 2 small 6" Odor Socks! I have an EXCELLENT PLAN I'll draw it up now for you! Its a shame you had to buy the other stuff 1st better its better to change your mind now than in say a few months after all the cabs come together.... Lets do it a 'SUPER STEALTH LED CAB' the Kessil 150s look great for the Veg cab and take up minimal room But I would say go for that 1000HPS SLAYER! that I posted for Flowering...its a beast and I want one too!!! - STELTHY
the Kessil 150s look great for the Veg cab and take up minimal room But I would say go for that 1000HPS SLAYER! that I posted for Flowering...its a beast and I want one too!!! - STELTHY
stelthy
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Yep no ballast! much cheaper on the electric, super quiet! No ceiling drilling, you could use the fan but I'd sell that too and get 2 small 4/5" in line fans..Let me draw you up a plan....This is exiting I am well wanting to do this, what are your thoughts? - STELTHY
stelthy
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Here's a LINK to the web-site
http://www.stealthgrow.com/products.htm#SG602
I was reading and the 600 only uses 350 watts of actual power!!! You could have one for Veg and one for Flower and be running only 700watts all in the prices are in dollers so I hope I can find UK outlet with UK figures - STELTHY
http://www.stealthgrow.com/products.htm#SG602
I was reading and the 600 only uses 350 watts of actual power!!! You could have one for Veg and one for Flower and be running only 700watts all in the prices are in dollers so I hope I can find UK outlet with UK figures
- STELTHY
stelthy
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SG 602
Wattage – 600 Watts; actual power draw 350 watts*
1.5 amps @ 220V; 3 amps @ 110V
Spectrum of Light - 455-475nm, 620-630nm, 660nm
and bright white
Effective Area of Coverage – 4' x 4'
Lifespan – 50,000-100,000 hours
Dimensions – 13" x 19" x 4"
Number of LEDs – 270
LED Chip Power – 2 and 3 Watt Hi-power LED Chips**
The SG 602 is now 25% brighter! It has proven to produce comparable yields and distinctly better quality than a 1000watt HPS bulb. The SG 602 has long been Stealth Grow's bread-and-butter product. Start seeing improved results with the SG 602 today!
SG 602 Veg
The VEG light is the superior solution for growers who run a constant vegetative grow room. The VEG spectrum is dialed in to promote: Tight inter-nodal spacing, dense leafy growth, and more flowering sites! This light has proved itself to significantly outperform 1000watt MH’s for only 350watts, 3 amps and minimal heat. If you are tight on amps but still want to run more power to your bloom room, the SG VEG is your light.
Wattage – 600 Watts; actual power draw 350 watts*
1.5 amps @ 220V; 3 amps @ 110V
Effective Area of Coverage – 4' x 4'
Lifespan – 50,000-100,000 hours
Dimensions – 13" x 19" x 4"
Spectrum of Light - Peaks at 455-475, 620-630nm
and bright white
Lifespan – 50,000-100,000 hours
Number of LEDs – 288
LED Chip Power – 2 Watt Hi-power LED Chips**
These are definatley the ones to go for in my opinion...I am even going to try n get hold of some for myself....They're that good!!!!! - STELTHY
stelthy
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They even do green LEDs for night gardening
SG NiteLight
This green only LED allows you to work in your grow room at night without disturbing your plants' photoperiod and without pulling an excessive amount of electricity (only 5 watts).
One of these in each room, happy days - STELTHY
Our SG NiteLight bulb screws into a standard E27 base and will run on 110 and 220 volt circuits.
SG NiteLight
This green only LED allows you to work in your grow room at night without disturbing your plants' photoperiod and without pulling an excessive amount of electricity (only 5 watts).
One of these in each room, happy days
- STELTHY Our SG NiteLight bulb screws into a standard E27 base and will run on 110 and 220 volt circuits.
Ok mate ill look into it. Im really really tempted.
If we could get away with the 8" fan i would just use that save trying to flog it and buy more. Not sure who i could flog the ballast too.
If i can be convinced that i will get same results with LED i dont mind shelling out. Ill have a good look into these now.
If we could get away with the 8" fan i would just use that save trying to flog it and buy more. Not sure who i could flog the ballast too.
If i can be convinced that i will get same results with LED i dont mind shelling out. Ill have a good look into these now.
Here's a LINK to the web-site
http://www.stealthgrow.com/products.htm#SG602
I was reading and the 600 only uses 350 watts of actual power!!! You could have one for Veg and one for Flower and be running only 700watts all in the prices are in dollers so I hope I can find UK outlet with UK figures
I rekon there gonna be a grand each which is more than i wanted to spend to be honest. This ebay bloke says he can do a veg one which covers a 1mtr sq area for 400 and a flower one for 600. He really seems to know his stuff so ill see what he gets back with.
I really like the idea but as i say i really need convinving that an LED will get as big a yeild with the same quality at the same time as HPS.
stelthy
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The video above should help convince you
I am going to see if I can get any UK prices now, If this goes to plan I am going to be very jealous lol Have you any pics of the LED lights this EBay bloke has? and any info? - STELTHY
stelthy
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I used 2X the old 90W LED UFOs for most of the vegging in my old unit as pictured above
they did pretty well! I did accompany them with CFL towards the begining of flowering though, But rest assured LEDs do work and now that the new generation of 2 and 3W diodes are out I trust them - STELTHY http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Custom-Made-L...arden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item3a6170ff72
Obvioulsy this isnt the light he would do me he said the one i would need for a 1mtr square flowering is £600. He seems very honest and was recommended in another thread. Ill see what he says when he mails me back. He seems to have some decent feedback.
Would we stil need to line the cab if we went LED?
Obvioulsy this isnt the light he would do me he said the one i would need for a 1mtr square flowering is £600. He seems very honest and was recommended in another thread. Ill see what he says when he mails me back. He seems to have some decent feedback.
Would we stil need to line the cab if we went LED?
This ebay guy sounds really good. This is what he had to say. I like how he is not makinf outrageous claims and not trying to push stuff on me. Would be a grand for the veg and flower lights so not a bad price either. Ive asked him for the exact specs of what i would need. It sounds promising.
I had the lights tested by 3 counties hydroponics. They are the largest grow shop chain in the UK and they dont currently sell led lights due to their poor performance (and lousy quality). They tested from seeds and clones over a 6 month period. If I can get the manufacturing sorted they will be stocking them in the new year as they were very impressed with the results, they stated that my lights were light years ahead of anything else on the market. If you are interested in using leds why not try 1 light and do a small grow? Quality is better than HID (everyone who sampled the results of my tests REALLY liked it
) and has a better taste, I think because with HID lights the plants have to draw up huge amounts of water (and therefore nutrients) to stop from drying out, which causes nutrient buildup in the plant. This is not the case with leds. Flowering time is pretty much the same (due to 1/3 of the red leds being 660Nm, the same mix as in late summer sunlight) and yeild is the same or very close. In thier tests 3 counties) they got about 90% of the yield of HID. I got the seed suppliers/breeders expected weight from my trials.
Lets put it this way, I use my lights, not HID. I am also very serious about these lights, I am currently working on a light for a enthusiast of rare carniverous plants which precisely reproduces the light at the equator at an altitude of 2km up a mountain!
If you interested try one light, you will get to see its performance over both the vegging and flowering phases and be able to decide whether to use leds for one or both phases.
I had the lights tested by 3 counties hydroponics. They are the largest grow shop chain in the UK and they dont currently sell led lights due to their poor performance (and lousy quality). They tested from seeds and clones over a 6 month period. If I can get the manufacturing sorted they will be stocking them in the new year as they were very impressed with the results, they stated that my lights were light years ahead of anything else on the market. If you are interested in using leds why not try 1 light and do a small grow? Quality is better than HID (everyone who sampled the results of my tests REALLY liked it
) and has a better taste, I think because with HID lights the plants have to draw up huge amounts of water (and therefore nutrients) to stop from drying out, which causes nutrient buildup in the plant. This is not the case with leds. Flowering time is pretty much the same (due to 1/3 of the red leds being 660Nm, the same mix as in late summer sunlight) and yeild is the same or very close. In thier tests 3 counties) they got about 90% of the yield of HID. I got the seed suppliers/breeders expected weight from my trials.Lets put it this way, I use my lights, not HID. I am also very serious about these lights, I am currently working on a light for a enthusiast of rare carniverous plants which precisely reproduces the light at the equator at an altitude of 2km up a mountain!
If you interested try one light, you will get to see its performance over both the vegging and flowering phases and be able to decide whether to use leds for one or both phases.
stelthy
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Yeah man lining with Mylar makes 'Everything better'
its definatly worth doing that! - STELTHY
stelthy
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Yeild and quality of bud would be my main concerns because i need at least 3oz a plant for my medical needs. 3.5oz would be even better
My answer would be yes! LEDs can do it but, BUT make sure you buy quality LEDs and that are 2w or 3w per individual Light Emitting Diode (LED) If your happy with the ones you've seen than its your decision, Ill look at the link in a minute
Personally I really like the one I pointed out in the video, The Bottom video says it loaded a 1/2 Pound (8oZ)Bud Monster from one of those...So right away on top of the quality info, makes me want one - STELTHY 
