Stems way too weak for bud growth

MICHI-CAN

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Oh forsure but i was limited on space and only had an 8 inch diamater space for a large enough fan (its one of those tall skinny ones)... plus it was free lol
I use 4 cheap vivo sun clip ons. They need to be torn apart, all burs removed, silcone spray dry lube on all moving plastic parts. And bushings need to be lubed with Dri-Slide or equivalent. Almost 3 years and no more fails.
 

Callz

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I use a net now to save that problem, I used Yo-Yos previously, put in up a couple of strings to hook them onto and you can't go wrong.
Yup! thats the plan next run lol. I bought a 3x3 cheapo tent for its frame so i can put a light centered above and a trellised net on top of my iced out and wedding cake thats currently in veg. I hope 300 wats is enough for 4 smaller plants to flower well. I have a 150 watt im using that i plan to put over a mimosa evo and in the corner on a shelf a Rude Boi OG under a 100w
 

Callz

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It just requires a frame. No need to go wall to wall.
yeah that's what I plan to do next run, just get cheap tent frames accordingly. the room can only fit a 3'x3' a 2'x2' and a 20"x20" so far i bought a 3x3 frame and hope i wont need another frame. But for now im prolly just gonna tie em up and hope for the best

I ordered 2 2x4 tents for another room to avoid this panic attack again haha
 

Kushash

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Yup! thats the plan next run lol. I bought a 3x3 cheapo tent for its frame so i can put a light centered above and a trellised net on top of my iced out and wedding cake thats currently in veg. I hope 300 wats is enough for 4 smaller plants to flower well. I have a 150 watt im using that i plan to put over a mimosa evo and in the corner on a shelf a Rude Boi OG under a 100w
Give these guys your light brand and model. Find out if the wattage listed is the true wattage used at the wall. Thin stems might be because not enough light was used in veg.
Good Luck!
 

Callz

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Give these guys your light brand and model. Find out if the wattage listed is the true wattage used at the wall. Thin stems might be because not enough light was used in veg.
Good Luck!
I use all marshydro lights atm till i move. theyre all ts2000s, ts1000s, and ts600s
 

MICHI-CAN

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yeah that's what I plan to do next run, just get cheap tent frames accordingly. the room can only fit a 3'x3' a 2'x2' and a 20"x20" so far i bought a 3x3 frame and hope i wont need another frame. But for now im prolly just gonna tie em up and hope for the best

I ordered 2 2x4 tents for another room to avoid this panic attack again haha
1/2" or 3/4" PVC make for the easiest frame builds. And they come apart with no pipe dope for easy storage.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Ill see if i can make a makeshift net by doing that



Yeah the ones left and right of the center one seem to be not as bad but its just such a huge f**kin headache lol

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If I may give you my opinion upon my limited visual shredding of this pic? It is need of some defol to open the center and lowers. Prevent PM now before you can't. Your PH appears high. And over watering or micro climate in that jungle is drooping your leaves. As wel as light appears 4-6" too low. If not adjustable. Just my read from miles away. Worth a thought.
 

Callz

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If I may give you my opinion upon my limited visual shredding of this pic? It is need of some defol to open the center and lowers. Prevent PM now before you can't. Your PH appears high. And over watering or micro climate in that jungle is drooping your leaves. As wel as light appears 4-6" too low. If not adjustable. Just my read from miles away. Worth a thought.
I'm at 6.0 ph with 1000-1200 ppm feedings and the lights are roughly 2 feet away from the tops. Is that not good?? The 3 plants are under a ts2000 and a ts1000 to fit that weird 3x3+2x2 space.
 

MICHI-CAN

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I'm at 6.0 ph with 1000-1200 ppm feedings and the lights are roughly 2 feet away from the tops. Is that not good?? The 3 plants are under a ts2000 and a ts1000 to fit that weird 3x3+2x2 space.
I assumed incorrectly then from the info. Helps me be more accurate. It is the lower Ph and over water or humidity. Get the moisture under control and float your PH between 6.2- 6.6. Should bounce back in a few days to a week, Excess water also causes soft stems. My dumb ass got happy. K.I.S.S.. Use deductve reasoning to find the basic issue. LOL. I'm trying.
 

Callz

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I assumed incorrectly then from the info. Helps me be more accurate. It is the lower Ph and over water or humidity. Get the moisture under control and float your PH between 6.2- 6.6. Should bounce back in a few days to a week, Excess water also causes soft stems. My dumb ass got happy. K.I.S.S.. Use deductve reasoning to find the basic issue. LOL. I'm trying.
You're good haha. With the high run off I was getting I was tryna keep it low. Usually I keep it around 6.3 like the FFOF im used to says is the general lowest you should go. Im also at 40% humidity which im sure should be fine, not too low or too high. Im prolly gonna let em dry up alot more than usual at this point. I normally water when the soil feels dry and the bottom of the lolly popped canopy leaves start to droop. I also topped em alot like 3-5 times to keep em small because I didn't know how tall they were gonna stretch. I saw some go 3xs the height on this strain and I got worried with my height restriction. I also generally get better yeild and bud quality with shorter even canopy plants so I aimed for what I thought was best but they ended up short and not very strong ‍♂ oh well. My next few runs I have stored in a boxed calendar are even better genetics so im not too upset.
 

MICHI-CAN

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You're good haha. With the high run off I was getting I was tryna keep it low. Usually I keep it around 6.3 like the FFOF im used to says is the general lowest you should go. Im also at 40% humidity which im sure should be fine, not too low or too high. Im prolly gonna let em dry up alot more than usual at this point. I normally water when the soil feels dry and the bottom of the lolly popped canopy leaves start to droop. I also topped em alot like 3-5 times to keep em small because I didn't know how tall they were gonna stretch. I saw some go 3xs the height on this strain and I got worried with my height restriction. I also generally get better yeild and bud quality with shorter even canopy plants so I aimed for what I thought was best but they ended up short and not very strong ‍♂ oh well. My next few runs I have stored in a boxed calendar are even better genetics so im not too upset.
I grow in a highly modified custom mix based on FFOF. Same method on short flat canopies. My best advice to you would be to learn the weight of your pots to determine when to water. They are not even close when they feel dry to the slight digging. A nd always allow your PH to drift 0.4 or points. Expand nute availability. But best wishes. Just ask if I can try to help.
 

hotrodharley

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So I have some tropicana cookies growing and every day they just look worse and worse before and after watering. today a middle plant just decided to break at the center few colas and everything on that plant looks close to doing the same. the plants have way too many colas to add a net or bamboo steaks and im not sure what to do. they are in a 10 gallon pot and are only 3 feet tall yet they have the stems of a tiny plant like its still in veg yet they are 50 days into flower but no where near ready to be chopped. Any ideas on what I should do? its givin me anxiety
Try adding silica and getting air moving around them. Don’t blow them apart but the resistance and movement help build stem walls.
 
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