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Bublonichronic · Feb 11, 2015

so apparently there are companies infusing essential oils into their hash, seems like people were really into it, to me it seems like a lame attempt to put flavor back into a batch that is flavorless for whatever reason, while adding weight...so is weed being cut like a normal thing now?

Twitch · Feb 11, 2015

yea it got called out last year some companies are adding terpenes from other sources that are the same as the ones in cannabis, their excuse is we boiled them off so its just putting what was lost back. I think they can also be recovered in a cold trap, don't quote me but I think that is where that all started someone found something in there cold trap along with water and I think a solvent and it was later identified has terpenes.

GhostBud420 · Feb 11, 2015

I find this subject debatable... During a dewaxing or winterizing techniques, terpenes are lost. But in the same sense the THC % goes up.
Extraction companies ( I would like to think ).. are trying to find the sweet spot. Having amazing flavor without compromising the THC % too much.

Just a thought.

Bublonichronic · Feb 11, 2015

I'm gonna have to get a cold trap and see how much is saved, iv thought about distilling a hydrosol to get the Essential oils, then doing a solvent extract, but if all you need is a cold trap....

Twitch · Feb 11, 2015

GhostBud420 said:
I find this subject debatable

http://www.hightimes.com/read/talking-terpenes

it is a long read really good Fade is quoted in it a few times and the part you are looking for is at the very bottom second to last paragraph, they briefly say something about extracts re adding terpenes to their oils

hyroot · Feb 13, 2015

Rob Clark has talked about distilling the left over hash water to remove the soluble terpenes from the water and infuse it back into the hash. Right now I think its more theory than application. Its in the works with the top hash makers. Infusing oils or terpenes from other places is just wrong.

fyi high times has zero original thought. Every article is copied almost word for word from forum threads on riu and IC rag.

Twitch · Feb 13, 2015

hyroot said:
fyi high times has zero original thought. Every article is copied almost word for word from forum threads on riu and IC rag.

oh I know, when they did the 2 dab articles it looks like they copy and pasted half the shit we had been saying for the past year.

WeedFreak78 · Feb 13, 2015

hyroot said:
fyi high times has zero original thought. Every article is copied almost word for word from forum threads on riu and IC rag.

Twitch. said:
oh I know, when they did the 2 dab articles it looks like they copy and pasted half the shit we had been saying for the past year.

When I was in HS, 15yrs ago, people didn't take High Times seriously. It absolutely amazes me people still continue to quote it. It's nothing more than a monthly advertisement.

Twitch · Feb 13, 2015

I didn't feel like digging that much for an article and it has GW in it so at least some of the info is creditable lol

hyroot · Feb 13, 2015

Twitch. said:
oh I know, when they did the 2 dab articles it looks like they copy and pasted half the shit we had been saying for the past year.

WeedFreak78 said:
When I was in HS, 15yrs ago, people didn't take High Times seriously. It absolutely amazes me people still continue to quote it. It's nothing more than a monthly advertisement.

Here's one they did an article on rols a few months ago. its a copy of almost word for word of a thread on here. The thread is about 2 years old

http://www.hightimes.com/read/growing-maximum-flavor

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

Twitch · Feb 13, 2015

Mr. Bongwater · Feb 13, 2015

6 grams of terrible soapbar hash i bought last summer when i was drunk when there was no weed on the go. cut with wax so its heavier

good bubble hash

D_Urbmon · Feb 13, 2015

hyroot said:
Rob Clark has talked about distilling the left over hash water to remove the soluble terpenes from the water and infuse it back into the hash. Right now I think its more theory than application. Its in the works with the top hash makers. Infusing oils or terpenes from other places is just wrong.

fyi high times has zero original thought. Every article is copied almost word for word from forum threads on riu and IC rag.

Tony Verzura and Horatio Delbert are both doing something similar to this. They been doing terp chasers after their dabs and stuff on youtube for a while. Also experimenting re implementing some terps into hash. He has also spoken on it and shows them in Hash Church.

D_Urbmon · Feb 13, 2015

Start at 34 minutes. They go into it

Bublonichronic · Feb 14, 2015

hyroot said:
Infusing oils or terpenes from other places is just wrong.

And it's only a matter of time till someone starts spraying them on their budd...slippery slope

D_Urbmon · Feb 14, 2015

I guess the difference here is that Tony and Horatio aren't infusing terps from other places but they are infusing terps from the very same strain.

Is there ethical question in doing this?

Bublonichronic · Feb 14, 2015

D_Urbmon said:
I guess the difference here is that Tony and Horatio aren't infusing terps from other places but they are infusing terps from the very same strain.

Is there ethical question in doing this?

That's cool if it's from the plant I think, but if not and just oils you can buy online that's a problem?

D_Urbmon · Feb 14, 2015

Bublonichronic said:
That's cool if it's from the plant I think, but if not and just oils you can buy online that's a problem?

I gotta agree with that.

Of course being at the forefront of the cannabis extraction industry they have yet to share their process with us. Not that I'm into solvent based extractions, but I don't even think Horatio has shared the process of his D-limonene extraction(LHO) with the public at this point. I could easily be wrong about this though.

From what I gather and the tidbits of information I have picked up I think they are both sacrificing pounds for these terps and/or somehow capturing terpenes that would otherwise be naturally lost during the lifecycle and growing/drying of the herb.

hyroot · Feb 14, 2015

I like the idea of using terps from the hash water but not so much directly from the plant. Each round the terpene profile could be different due to several variables. Nutes, medium, brix levels, chop time, cure time, recessive traits, etc...

Bublonichronic · Feb 14, 2015

This is the video that got me thinkin about distilling the plant material, I think you would distill as soon as you chop then let the material dry so you can do your butane extract, then just mix the two extracts?

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