Sterilite ScrOG Cabinet Build

bfq

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LOL, these dueling threads are confusing me... it took me a minute to realize just what happened to my "reply" to this post LOL

where IS that bong?
 

MetalSmelter

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Haha i think my other grow thread has turned into a keep the mother alive for viable clones, and thoguhts on what i can do to this box and to her to keep her until i can get one or two good cloness, and then scrog them for real in the box, stick with cfl's and then upgrade to the hps. Or trim the fk out of mama waiting for buddage and keep trying clones until i get one lol.

I dunno....
 

bfq

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i think you are doing it right... this thread about the new cab and that thread about the grow.

when you get one of the clones finally growing in this cab start a new grow thread and run it out from there ;)
 

MetalSmelter

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Oh........yea! ;) I'm excited to restart honestly, i just want to get a few real good clones going with perfect health to try with a clean slate with a 100% lady.

I think i may build a hood out of aluminum flashing that i own, cut them with tin sheers, self tapping screws for sheet metal, or rivets. I just need a socket to attach it with, and a coupling for duct work. Most likely in a 1/2 cylinder shape, flat bottom of hood will be plexi. Gotta get a socket for the bulb, then i may do a 150w kit.
 

MetalSmelter

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Gonna bring this thread back from the dead, as i'm renovating my box, for a more perminent fixture. 150w HPS center mounted up high.

What i'm looking for though is a low profile hood to hold the bulb that is vented, mabey max 5" deep my Y dimension, X and Z not really an issue, but cheap as possible, with a side output for air cooling.

Right now i'm looking at the minifloralux from htgsupply, but the hood vent is on the top which is another 6" for a smooth vent turn, so that makes up at least 10" height, but size is good on overall dimensions minus the vent up top. Others are just way expensive and too large.

I mean i can make one, but i'd like to keep this simply, and metal or glass is not on the simple or economical side, and i'm unsure of bulb temperture, ie fire.

Interior dimensions i'd like to stay inside would be 14x14x6" with a side air hole 4" round.

I plan on hanging it from the top and directly venting the hood to the side, direct shot with a carbon filter.

My first choice is still the minifloralux 150 at htgsupply.
 

tom__420

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I was also looking at the mini floralux too a few weeks ago but recently decided to get the 250 watt switchable and air cool it. The 150 watt will still work great though :mrgreen: Keep us posted:bigjoint:bongsmilie

Tom :joint::peace:
 

MetalSmelter

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Is there a way i could modify it to remove the air from another area on it, just trying to keep the vertical dimensions as low as possible, to push it as high up and not have ducting in the way that will leave 1.5ft of vertical room with a scrog. Unsure of how close i need to keep it away as well to keep them from burning, as i've read 7-8" so that leaves 12" of vertical room...

The 150w mini is the plan unless i can find a cheaper better solution. The 150w 2 part looks nice but the hood is massive. Not really planning on moving it, shouldn't need to.

Also what kind of quality are the 150w ballast kits that you find online, my only fear is no thermal protection that digital/magnetic do have i bleieve, thats my only concern, and i'm thinking of just making a hood, though heat transfer is my worry then with metal.
 

bfq

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yupper, that looks to be as small and simple (and detailed) as DIY cool tubing can be :)
 

MetalSmelter

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Nice, a little long on the length dimensions on that tube, at 14", but yup gonna look into that very nice, saved.

Anywhere i can find a stand alone digital or magnetic ballast without looking into kits, ie safer? I can find a socket anywhere really, and trying to save money if i can find a ballast for 150w 120v by itself with wires to hook up to a socket, but i've never seen anything of the sorts, always a system including hood, or kits.
 

MetalSmelter

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Gonna look into HPS when i have a more consistant inflow of money.

Anyway i remade a hood for myself, and its very secure, temps with 2 42w reds and 2 23w blues, a good 2/3 ratio of each light inside the hood. I've had basil/catnip/marjoram sitting under it for 2 days sitting at 91-92F, and all is well and good.



This should be adaquate light, i also plan on adding another fan when i get more funds so i can ventilate the hps when time comes.

So i thought i'd try my luck on germing some seeds, last time i tried they all took 4-7days. I popped two random bagseeds i had into a cup of distilled water yesterday morning, one dropped after 4-6hrs, the other just this morning. Threw the sunken one into a wet paper towl, just checked it a while ago, and i'm seeing taproot and slight splitting. I'm planning on scrogging it.

 

bfq

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good to see you are moving forward again :)

i like how the light hood looks... but it looks like it doesnt move down... you are going to raise the plants and lower them as they grow?

while those temps are high as Hell, they will be ok if they are stable... i have seen plants grow and yield in some REAL hot and swampy conditions.

i would be worried about the duck tape... my grows always make the shit fall apart and stop sticking... clear packing tape seems to hold up a LOT better in the long run.
 

MetalSmelter

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Thanks for the tape suggestion, finding an adhesive thats cheap and will stick is a pain, thats what gave way last grow, the tape holding the plexi on. This is much more secure though. And yes its not movable right now, its made so its easily movable, but i need to get another 6" or so of ducting so i can drop it some.

I'm still planning in the future to get a 150-200w hps kit, and doing the cool tube, air in one side out the other, then venting the grow area seperately on a carbon filter, but really wanting to know i can pull 1 proper grow off before i drop any more cash on lights, etc, thats the only thing stopping me, besides funds....And if i do the scrog like i was planning in the first place, then i should be able to do this properly. Hopefully i can get her looking like my first girl and have her flower this time though.

But gotta do the seed luck, doubt i'll get a clone from my friend, dosent seem like he wants to get rid of any, nor has he taken any.

But yes temps are consistant, but still wanting to be alot lower. Inside temps are 86F btw.
 

bfq

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you will find people get squirrelly with clones... sad but true.

my new cabinet will be set up with a similar grow area to yours in each flower tank... what i am thinking on doing is getting 100 watt HPS and a 50 watt MH for each flower area. i liked mixing HID's a LOT back when i had a real grow going and i think micro grows can get a benefit from it too... food for thought.

i am sure in your last grow you noticed that in a ScrOG things will get taller and taller to a point and then you find you dont move the lights hardly at all... in mine, my lights basically only need three height settings... one slammed right on the screen for when i first add my clones... raised an inch or two about that and then up another inch or two... most of the adjustment is done on the plant side rather than on the light side.... anyway, point to all that babble is: with ScrOG adjusting the height is not such a big deal. ;)

BTW, you remember my talking about a really stunted Sativa plant? fucker took months to get over 2 inches tall and i kept talking about culling it... i didnt. she finally got harvested and the early buds i took were so tasty i am experimenting with revegging to hopefully get clones from her freaky little pain in the ass self :D

Sativas do Scrog. they ARE a bitch to do and get full buds out of... they do take a really long time... you could probably stunt a sativa in your cab and get nice results for personal use.

for the record, i do not think i will get any results out of revegging. ScrOG is too hard to save enough lower leaf matter alive by the end of the grow, so i have a big octopus stalk with one little half a bud and a little leaf sticking off it... it has a Charlie Brown theme going on for its whole life ;)

but damn it does stone me out! sure hope this was legible LOL
 

MetalSmelter

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Haha yea its all legible, i just want a good mix of quality and quantity, and enough to smoke on for a month or more, hell if i get an oz of beaster quality that would last me a month or more, at even 2 1/8ths a week, which is a but load for me.

I have a feeling tommorrow afternoon or monday i'll be planting the seedling with the taproot showing, but i'm at odds again as to what genetics it is. I would object too much to a heavy indica right around now, but a good sativa is always good.

I'm gonna go with an 8" pot for the time being, i just hate having to sex it, and take up so much extra room weeding out the males......doing a scrog like that is horrible, horrible!
 

bfq

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yeah, ScrOGging only really works when you know what sex your plants are.

due to how your grow is, i would take clones at 2 weeks (if you have the growth for it) regardless of sex. if they are male, kill the clones off. if female, your mother is growing :D
 

MetalSmelter

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Good plan, if i get no stretching then i should have 1 or 2 lower nodes i imagine that i could clone like you suggest before i start scrogging mama, or in that process. Do you suggest topping her where i want her stunted? Then using that top as the clone? Or taking some lower ones, i just want to be most efficient, and set myself up for success.

I just have a problem about having or aquiring too many plants and not wanting to kill them off lol. I want 1 or 2 girls, no more, no less.
 
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