stock market, jobs, economy all plummeting under trump

see4

see4

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greg nr said:
We might end up looking back fondly at 2007.
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I wouldn't go that far just yet.
There was an underlying issue in the crash of 2007/8, beyond inflation and market corrections.
Debt and inflation are the cause of the current market volatility, and can be corrected if the right decisions are made. It is not likely the right decisions will be made however.
So lets pray Steve Munchkin and his whore wife make the right decisions, because Trump is 100% clueless when it comes to all matters of finance.
 
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schuylaar

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see4 said:
I wouldn't go that far just yet.
There was an underlying issue in the crash of 2007/8, beyond inflation and market corrections.
Debt and inflation are the cause of the current market volatility, and can be corrected if the right decisions are made. It is not likely the right decisions will be made however.
So lets pray Steve Munchkin and his whore wife make the right decisions, because Trump is 100% clueless when it comes to all matters of finance.
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that^^^ let's face it..Trumps formula of success, is to 'just show' and see what happens..this has been proven to be a poor business model.

in normal times we'd have had an assassination attempt or two by now, problem is all the crazy, mercenary types are righties.



in the mean time, a girl can only dream..<sigh>
 
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Lucky Luke

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Strengthening dollar means an interest rate hike. When that happens its all down hill. Bond markets have been worried about this for a few months.
Business are carrying lots of debt from cheap loans.
 
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gonnagro

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Lucky Luke said:
Strengthening dollar means an interest rate hike. When that happens its all down hill. Bond markets have been worried about this for a few months.
Business are carrying lots of debt from cheap loans.
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Well yes that would happen, but all it would mean is a change in strategy. There's money to made on the way up, and there's money to be made on the way down. And I'll repeat, "if you're a long term investor you really don't care." Solid, (i.e. Dividend Aristocrat), companies historically bounce back. There's never a bad time to invest.

Since few will retire with pensions anymore, it's basically your only option. That correction was a gift to an active investor with dry powder.
 
Lucky Luke

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gonnagro said:
Well yes that would happen, but all it would mean is a change in strategy. There's money to made on the way up, and there's money to be made on the way down. And I'll repeat, "if you're a long term investor you really don't care." Solid, (i.e. Dividend Aristocrat), companies historically bounce back. There's never a bad time to invest.

Since few will retire with pensions anymore, it's basically your only option. That correction was a gift to an active investor with dry powder.
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I'm not arguing the fact that investing is bad. Of cause its good. I have some money in stocks thru my employer funded superannuation and I did have a couple of investment properties. I was mealy pointing out what the Bond market annalists have been saying. The market recently reacted to what they have been saying for months. High debt and an interest rate hike due to the higher dollar.

I'm in Australia. Nearly everyone retires in this day and age with an employer funded pension (its not the 1900's anymore) and we have the Govt one for those like me who will slip under the net.
 
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gonnagro

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Lucky Luke said:
I'm not arguing the fact that investing is bad. Of cause its good. I have some money in stocks thru my employer funded superannuation and I did have a couple of investment properties. I was mealy pointing out what the Bond market annalists have been saying. The market recently reacted to what they have been saying for months. High debt and an interest rate hike due to the higher dollar.

I'm in Australia. Nearly everyone retires in this day and age with an employer funded pension (its not the 1900's anymore) and we have the Govt one for those like me who will slip under the net.
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Yes the market did react . . . finally. No active investor I know was not waiting for this and naturally was holding cash in their core account to either add to stocks they already own or buy new ones which are basically on sale. Because the market is overbought is not a reason to leave, its just a reason to adjust strategy. A1360pt rise results in either some nice short term profit if your an active trader, or before the run up, a nice price point to add to current holdings or diversify into a new (hopefully dividend producing) equity.

Your lucky to have a pension. A majority of Americans will never see one.
 
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