Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

Sup RIU. Took a break from growing since my last grow, and took the opportunity to do some modifying to my grow box. The old version was a 35"x35" cube, with the back 12" my extraction fan enclosure. This design forced me to use 2 smaller carbon scrubbers with a Y and these took up about 12 inches of my actual grow compartment. I have now removed the extraction fan from the grow box and enclosed it in a separate box, I then knocked out the false wall in my grow area, moved the new carbon scrubber to the back and really opened up my grow space.

I will now be able to run 3 plants instead of 2 and really try to push for upwards of > 0.75g per watt. I just transplanted my new test subjects to their new hempy homes last night so the official start to veg will begin today. These 3 clones are much smaller than my previous grows so I am anticipating a longer veg time, maybe upwards of 3-4 weeks before I fully train my canopy. The strains I am going with are all from clone, 2 of which I have grown previously and 1 newbie. The Blackjack is back from my 1st grow and I am excited to see what I can do with her now that I have some experience under my belt. She grows really fat and dense nuggets and should do better this time with proper ph'ing. The Blueberry is one of my all time faves, really fruity and skunky, she is not as fat as many strains but is very dense and a good yielder. The smell and taste alone make up for any slight deficiencies in yield. The new edition, Permafrost is a clone only strain that is around my neck of the woods. She is very bright green in color and has a menthol-pine taste and very skunky smell. She is a good producer and I am excited to give her a go this round.

Some info on my setup. Fairly basic micro closet, 35x35 as I said, with the actual grow area about 23x33. The difference this go round is I will be utilizing all the grow space this time by adding the 3rd plant. I am using str8 perlite in 1.25 gallon hempy buckets. Each bucket has a DIY screen separately attatched, about 11"x23" in size. Lighting is a lumatek 250w dimmable MH/HPS (I wish I would have gotten the 400w and dimmed it to 250w) supplemented with 2 42w 5600K CFL's. Ventilation is done with an Active-air 4in extraction fan and carbon scrubber. I have 2 circulating fans, one blowing between the light and canopy and one blowing through the canopies. This lets me keep my HID light about 5in from the top of my plants.

Using the GH 3 part and supplementing with Florablend and Liquid Koolbloom. Once the roots hit the rez I feed fairly heavy, about every 2-3 days and I flush every 14 days with Clearex letting them dry out for 3-5 days after flushing. This system has worked fairly well for me the past 2 grows and I will look to tweak it this round a bit maybe. I previously ran ph at around 5.6-5.8 but found in my last grow that bumping ph up to around 6.0-6.3 in flower is much more agreeable to them. Half the reason I am doing a grow journal is that I really think that it helps me to become a better grower. Being able to document the process helps my stoner memory out immensely.

Anyways that is the basics of this grow. Fire away any more specific questions if you would like.

Here is the link to my previous 3 grows. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/514780-1st-grow-shot-250w-hps.html

From left to right, Permafrost, Blueberry, Blackjack.

awesome bro. glad to see your still growing. that blackjack is one hell of a strain huh?

how big are those scrog holes if u dont mind me askin.

Thanks man. I love the blackjack really dense and fat and such a unique smell and taste. The strain I have is really lemon tasting with like a buttery hint. I described it as almost caramel tasting when I grew it last. That was my first grow so I aim to improve on that alot this time round. Thanks for stopping by and showing interest, I will be sure to stop by your thread and check it out. Peace

The screens are about 11"x23" each and each hole is about 2-3" give or take. I like the string screens as they give me many options on placement since I can adjust the space between them.

Welcome back man!

RCgrowerman said:

Welcome back man!

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Hey RC! Nice to see a familiar face again. I see from lurking on a few threads you upgraded to a 600w is that right? I can't wait till I get my degree in a couple years and can devote a real room to growing so I can bang out a couple 600's. From everything I've seen they are the most efficient at light output per watt.
Thanks for hollering at me and check back. I won't bore people with too many of the veg pics, but I'll really be pushing this grow to the limits this time with my veg training. Peace man

After seeing your pics I'm subd for sure! Now you got me curious about scrog. Cant wait to see the end.

Thanks for stopping by steelie. Just waiting for these girls to get their feet under them and then I'll start twisting the shit out of em. IMO scrog is a game changer and really can help anyone maximize yield. If you position your screen low enough (I have mine about 6-7" above my buckets) the additional veg time is minimal, maybe an extra week. It's all about taking a plant that would be 3-4 feet without training and keeping her height around 8-12 inches and spreading her out horizontally.

I am going to try and document my training and feeding more closely this round as I said I believe this really helps improve my overall growing ability.

Gave them their 1st light feeding last night. Fed 2.5mL grow, 1ml micro and 1ml bloom with 10ml Florablend and 0.5ml cal/mag ph'd to 6.0 per gallon. I also foliar sprayed epsom salts diluted to 1tsp per gallon. Really light feeding this week but as they start to shoot roots to the rez I will bump up the strength slightly each time.

I was planning on doing a 2L hempy sog but I'm kinda limited on space atm. After seeing what can be accomplished with scrog I'm gonna take notes and try one myself after my tent empties out.

Scroggin is alot easier than it may seem. If you have any specific questions feel free to post em on here.

This is a pretty laid back journal so anyone who wants to, feel free to post questions, comments, criticisms. I know how some people get on these forums but unless it's extremely offensive or hateful towards someone, feel free to post whatever you would like here.
Peace

I've seen some pretty impressive results with 2L sog setups, but it usually means alot of plants to water and care for.

Scrogs take more initial care during veg than other grows. It's mostly about letting the plant grow to the screen then positioning branches where you think they will fit best. Once the plant bends into the screen you will be able to visualize where the lower branches are most likely to come up. Most people use a permanent type of screen for their scrog which is usually made up of a frame with a grid of either fencing or chicken wire stretched over it. To make mine easier to work with and water I built individual screens with some small diameter metal rod and clothes hangers. This lets me water each plant in a catch basin to capture the runoff. I just tie some nylon string into a grid pattern to serve as my screen. Takes a bit more work but I like the fact that I can position the holes where I need them at the time and remove parts of or the whole screen easily.

Training is real easy and over the next few weeks I'll try to give a detailed account with some good pics to show the process. It is really basic but the process can be quite different from plant to plant. More or less the plant will tell you where it wants to grow and you just have to force it over to where you think it should go. If things go well I should be hopefully starting to train by the end of next week.

I appreciate all the help. I'm just finishing up my first grow. Another week or two tops and all my original plants will be done. I just harvested one of my blue dreams a few days ago. I'm running a 4x4x7 tent with a 600w hps, coco hempy with blue planet nutes.. Would it be better to do 1 big screen or is that to big? Can't rep you again yet, but i'll get you when I can.

I would do 2 screens separated by a small aisle just big enough for you to squeeze back and do some training and cleanup under the canopy. Picture how high your canopy will be (try to keep it around 6-12" above the bucket tops) then set your light in different height positions from about 10-24 in. U want to have a good balance between intensity and coverage so take a look and see how high you need to get good coverage over where your screens will be placed.

If you are running a tent like a grow lab then you could make a frame out of 1/2" pvc pipe pretty easlily. The only problem with scrogging a permanent screen is you can't move the plants around once they grow to the screen. I'm not sure what your water system is but this might be a problem.

I'm run hempy buckets. I'm thinking 4-5 gallon for the scrog plants. I'm gonna make a stand for each plant. Got stuff to make one for a trial run. How big of a net for an individual plant?

Growth update 5 days since transplant. Fan leaves are burning off, this seems to happen every time I start a grow. I'm feeding slightly under half strength nutes every other watering and watering every day lightly till the roots get established. Growth is poor to good with the blackjack lagging quite a bit behind the other 2.

The perma has the most growth and I topped her tonight just a bit in hopes of letting the blackjack catch up. The BB is somewhere between the two slightly closer to the perma. I will top her in the next couple days and see where the blackjack is at.

Hopefully by the later part of next week they should be close to screen level and I'll start to get an idea where I'm at.

Blackjack Day 1


Blackjack Day 5


BB Day 1


BB Day 5


PF Day 1


PF Day 5


PF Topped

Looking Nice! I'm subbed. I'm not sure if you mentioned this, but what was the yield of your last harvest? I've got a Blueberry X Purp under a 1000watt that I plan to SCROG. She's currently under LST but i'm building the screen very soon. Check it out if ya like: HERE

These were my last 2. The top one was 72g I think and the bottom around 62g

DAMN!!!! That's crazy good for 250watts! I love the color. They're so white, they almost look albino.

steeliesteve said:

I'm run hempy buckets. I'm thinking 4-5 gallon for the scrog plants. I'm gonna make a stand for each plant. Got stuff to make one for a trial run. How big of a net for an individual plant?

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Place your buckets under the light and figure out about 2'x2' or 3'x3' for each plant would be good. This will help you see how many plants and total canopy area you can fit under your light. With a 1000w you should be able to safely cover about 15 sq ft.

As they are growing it is important to adjust the height of the light and try to keep it as close to the canopy as you can without burning them. If your using a cooltube this should be no problem, but if not I use a fan blowing between the canopy and the hood and this works well for me. I'm only using slightly over 1gal buckets and my screens are about 11"x23"