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sunsetdaydreamer · Sep 10, 2020

cant argue with that answer..

colocowboy · Sep 10, 2020

waterproof808 said:
Patenting a strain is a bit more involved than popping bagseed and filing paperwork.

It shouldn’t be a thing, the premise of any sort of patenting of genetic material means that you subsume every arrangement of those genetics that lead to that point in time. Since the genus predates mankind the argument will never hold in court. It’s utterly ridiculous because litigation will wipe out any income you would gain and the time it takes to litigate will allow the opportunity window to close. The economics don’t actually support the greed in this case, it’s the branding that has value, cookies is a perfect example. It’s not worth trying to control the genetics, it’s the branding.

sunsetdaydreamer · Sep 10, 2020

its quite pointless from the perspective that most strains are popular for short periods. gsc was the big thing then something else and so on. seems that by the time they have a legal hold on something, it wont be popular anymore.

colocowboy · Sep 10, 2020

sunsetdaydreamer said:
its quite pointless from the perspective that most strains are popular for short periods. gsc was the big thing then something else and so on. seems that by the time they have a legal hold on something, it wont be popular anymore.

Exactly, the market is fad based when left to its market pressures.

sunsetdaydreamer · Sep 10, 2020

especially with instagram now.. its crazy how fast new amazing cuts are just popping up daily. its a golden age for strains atm. but yeah hbopefully they will realise that eventually..

oswizzle · Sep 10, 2020

If they fade fast from popularity... they were just over hyped in the first place... we dont live in the golden era of genetics.. more like the worst era ever yet... market is flooding with pretty weed that doesn't get u very high... but its name is so cool and its the new new

nc208 · Sep 11, 2020

colocowboy said:
It shouldn’t be a thing, the premise of any sort of patenting of genetic material means that you subsume every arrangement of those genetics that lead to that point in time. Since the genus predates mankind the argument will never hold in court. It’s utterly ridiculous because litigation will wipe out any income you would gain and the time it takes to litigate will allow the opportunity window to close. The economics don’t actually support the greed in this case, it’s the branding that has value, cookies is a perfect example. It’s not worth trying to control the genetics, it’s the branding.

There's no way to patent a strain currently. You can trademark a strain name, but someone can call it something different and get around that. Until some kind of universal genetic markers are widely used and accepted i.e what phylos was doing. There isn't a way to stop others from using the same genetics.

ChocoKush · Sep 11, 2020

idlewilder said:
$$$$

nc208 · Sep 11, 2020

nc208 said:
This doesn't make sense from a legal stand point though. They are a paid advertising site, the breeders or seed cos can't do anything legally considering the status of the marijuana and they would have to go after each seller individually, they could also simply just delete the listings of any sellers violating certain trademarks.
IMO strainly has been pushing hard for funding through numerous campaign emails ive gotten in the past and this all sounds like a load of BS to me and they've run out of money I.e. there business model wasnt profitable and they're choosing to blame breeders as a scape goat.

Strainly is registered in Canada so it would be quite hard for any US breeder to threaten legal action against them.

I knew that whole blame the breeders was BS. Just got this email from strainly which confirms what I said about them being non profitable as the reason they are stopping.

Hi there,

For many families, businesses and communities, 2020 came with its lot of challenges.

We haven't been able to find a reliable payment processor after we were shut down -again- in May. This is a common issue in our industry, and crypto currencies create way too much friction and overheads to be a viable alternative as of 2020. Hence, while many of you are willing to pay to use Strainly and its premium features, there's technically no viable way to monetize Strainly at scale.

Ads network options are also very limited in our industry, while advertising is very regulated. Ad revenues are therefore quite limited.

In parallel, as our user base increased, our costs of operations did too, especially during the past year. Expenses grew faster than revenue.

Rather than going into a situation where there will be no chance to ever bounce back, it became wiser to take a break in order to keep a chance to restart when the dust settles. A difficult decision we resisted making for as long as we could.

A few people speculated about the reasons for this hiatus. In case you are wondering, our servers and databases have remained secured since we launched Strainly 4 years ago. You have strictly nothing to worry about when it comes to your information. It has never been shared, accessed nor requested by third-parties.

We are hopeful we'll come back stronger when the context improves.

Thank you for your continuous support over the years!

colocowboy · Sep 11, 2020

This at least makes sense!

sunsetdaydreamer · Sep 11, 2020

oswizzle said:
If they fade fast from popularity... they were just over hyped in the first place... we dont live in the golden era of genetics.. more like the worst era ever yet... market is flooding with pretty weed that doesn't get u very high... but its name is so cool and its the new new

its more about flavour and high in my area but each to their own.. and its not all weed that doesnt get you high. unless your growing or smoking the wrong ones.

NeWcS · Sep 11, 2020

nc208 said:
I knew that whole blame the breeders was BS. Just got this email from strainly which confirms what I said about them being non profitable as the reason they are stopping.

Hi there,

For many families, businesses and communities, 2020 came with its lot of challenges.

We haven't been able to find a reliable payment processor after we were shut down -again- in May. This is a common issue in our industry, and crypto currencies create way too much friction and overheads to be a viable alternative as of 2020. Hence, while many of you are willing to pay to use Strainly and its premium features, there's technically no viable way to monetize Strainly at scale.

Ads network options are also very limited in our industry, while advertising is very regulated. Ad revenues are therefore quite limited.

In parallel, as our user base increased, our costs of operations did too, especially during the past year. Expenses grew faster than revenue.

Rather than going into a situation where there will be no chance to ever bounce back, it became wiser to take a break in order to keep a chance to restart when the dust settles. A difficult decision we resisted making for as long as we could.

A few people speculated about the reasons for this hiatus. In case you are wondering, our servers and databases have remained secured since we launched Strainly 4 years ago. You have strictly nothing to worry about when it comes to your information. It has never been shared, accessed nor requested by third-parties.

We are hopeful we'll come back stronger when the context improves.

Thank you for your continuous support over the years!

You can't see past this? They are obviously trying to do the right thing and save face. Not pointing fingers.

However, they already said it was cause of heat coming down on them from a breeder(s). This is just damage control. Albeit smart.

Either way, Its a shame they are going away, even if its temporary.

nc208 · Sep 11, 2020

NeWcS said:
You can't see past this? They are obviously trying to do the right thing and save face. Not pointing fingers.

However, they already said it was cause of heat coming down on them from a breeder(s). This is just damage control. Albeit smart.

Either way, Its a shame they are going away, even if its temporary.

No, I saw right through their bs. They arent doing damage control, its called they saw us figuring it out and decided to say the truth to save face. In the email I posted they even address this.

NeWcS · Sep 11, 2020

nc208 said:
No, I saw right through their bs. They arent doing damage control, its called they saw us figuring it out and decided to say the truth to save face. In the email I posted they even address this.

Oh I see what you're saying. The damage control is to coverup the fact they said it was a breeder and maybe not a bad business model. Thats fair. peace

nc208 · Sep 11, 2020

NeWcS said:
Oh I see what you're saying. The damage control is to coverup the fact they said it was a breeder and maybe not a bad business model. Thats fair. peace

No, in the other message posted was saying breeders were trying to get them to enforce their trademarks i.e. others can't sell their strains. Strainly doesn't have the money for that. Then came their next email stating their business model sucks and dont have money to keep going. Im not sure where folks are getting the idea breeders are trying to take strainly down?

NeWcS · Sep 11, 2020

nc208 said:
No, in the other message posted was saying breeders were trying to get them to enforce their trademarks i.e. others can't sell their strains. Strainly doesn't have the money for that. Then came their next email stating their business model sucks and dont have money to keep going. Im not sure where folks are getting the idea breeders are trying to take strainly down?

I believe people got the idea because Strainly said they got heat from some breeders right around the time they also said they were going on hiatus due to lack of funding.

But right, They NEVER said the breeder thing was related to the business thing.

boybelue · Sep 11, 2020

nc208 said:
No, in the other message posted was saying breeders were trying to get them to enforce their trademarks i.e. others can't sell their strains. Strainly doesn't have the money for that. Then came their next email stating their business model sucks and dont have money to keep going. Im not sure where folks are getting the idea breeders are trying to take strainly down?

They have to much overhead, this is a good format that I personally think should have a bigger slice of the cake, take some cues from e3ay or the other big A and get back on track. I myself love Strainly and can’t begin to explain how much the site has helped me. I’ll contribute

boybelue · Sep 11, 2020

SCJedi said:
I can corroborate the email sent out to sellers. I got it too.

I also follow them on IG and it appears that they have been targeted by someone enforcing trademark enforcement and they cannot afford a fight.

I'd love to find out who the toolbox is that messed up a good thing for everybody because they think they "own a plant"

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I think this may have gotten turned around a bit, it does say a few breeders and seed companies have contacted us to HELP enforce their trademarks, in which strainly basically replied I can’t help pay for your lawyer your gonna have to do that yourself.

NeWcS · Sep 12, 2020

boybelue said:
I myself love Strainly and can’t begin to explain how much the site has helped me. I’ll contribute

While I just started using the site, I feel its a shame to see it go, if only for a short time.

I would gladly pay a few $ a month just to have the opportunity to browse and buy.

Aside form Strainly I really have no way of getting cuts. Everyone says IG but there is no way to know who is sending things out and whos not. I can't PM every person I see who grows assuming they also sell.

Anyone have a list or directory of places/people who ship clones/cuts?

nc208 · Sep 12, 2020

NeWcS said:
While I just started using the site, I feel its a shame to see it go, if only for a short time.

I would gladly pay a few $ a month just to have the opportunity to browse and buy.

Aside form Strainly I really have no way of getting cuts. Everyone says IG but there is no way to know who is sending things out and whos not. I can't PM every person I see who grows assuming they also sell.

Anyone have a list or directory of places/people who ship clones/cuts?

Did you do that with strainly?
You could have shown your support and ponied up the measly 59/month plus tax or the 99/month plus tax.

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