Strawberry Cough Kings Kush Critical Acapulco Gold Sensi Star& Original Skunk #1 grow

themanwiththeplan

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Welcome to my grow journal. This would be my first journal but not first grow.

I decided to spare you all the "boring" parts of the grow (ie. watching them germinate) and decided to start it late in the veg close to where the action begins.

My plants are all 4-4 1/2 weeks in veg. I haven't decided if Im going to veg for 5 or 6 weeks yet. All have been vegged under 1 600w hps. I intend to add another 600w hps when i switch to 12/12 and for throughout the flowering period.

Strains are (all feminized btw):
Barney's Farm - Acapulco Gold
Greenhouse Seeds - Kings Kush
Dinafem - Critical +
Paradise Seeds - Sensi Star
Dutch Passion - Strawberry Cough
Seedsman - Original Skunk #1

All plants have been super cropped. Most have been LST'd and topped (half of them have been topped twice).

Last topping was done this past monday so im not sure if ill need to wait for 2 weeks before 12/12 or just 1.

So im switching to 12/12 either this next monday or the following monday.

Only real issues in veg have been low humidity (solved that with a large bucket of water in the room near/under the light and its raised the humidity pretty well) & a slight pH problem. Ive solved that by pH'ing my water down from 7.0 to around 6.0-6.3

Soil: Fox Farm Ocean Forest and added perlite
Nutes: Fox Farm Trio (big bloom, grow big, tiger bloom)
Lighting: 1 600w for veg and 2 600w for flowering
pot size: 5 gal pots
number of plants: 6 plants



If you have any questions please feel free to ask and if you have any comments please feel free to post them!



NOTE: the posted pics are less than 24hrs old.



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themanwiththeplan

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Damnit! My high ass forgot to take pics tonight. :-x

Anyway yesterday and today were "Feeding" days for some of my plants. The Acapulco Gold, Critical+ and Original Skunk #1 were all watered/fed with 2tsp Grow big, 2tbl Big Bloom. Also the water was pH'd down to 6.0 (my pH has been high...damn city water) comes out 7.3-7.4 out of the tap :-x

Today my I only watered/fed the Strawberry Cough with the same dose and pH as listed above.

The King's kush and the sensi star will be watered tomorrow they were a lil too heavy for my liking (as in pot weight dry v. wet)

Some plant were showing signs of a high pH so since i discovered the mishap (w/ the city water's pH) Ive used pH down and today i was pleased to notice that a few plants (especially the Original Skunk #1) have turned around today...perking up more. happier. the classic "praying" position :)

Ill keep you guys up to date. pics tomorrow/saturday. ;)
 

themanwiththeplan

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I am quite looking forward t the rest of this, i just started some acapulco. subbed
in each of the first two pics my acapulco gold is the one all the way on the top left. its the biggest and so far the most picky on growing environment/nutes. mine is particularly picky of a moderately high pH. It looks very promising though with its vigorous growth. they all were started on the same day and that one is probably at least 6-8in taller than the rest. thank god for lst.

also if you have the time in veg you should top it. my AG takes well to topping/fim. i topped her at 2wks then fim'd & topped her again (topped one and Fim'd the other 1) so now its growing out 5 tops. very thick stem. A+ other than the sensitivity/pickyness.
 

Lysemith, Lowkey

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very nice, all of those questions were at the forefront of my mind, particularly about the topping/fimming the AG. I usually top then train for 4 main colas, and I was really thinking of getting some bushmaster for it, because this run I am going to try running Mazar, a near landrace indica, right next to it, so I think i'm going to have a lot of fun trying to control the AG through veg and flower.

My beans come from bagseed from the dispensary in NM, who also grow some other Barney's genetics, so I think we are working with the same genes, except these beans are obviously from hermied clones.
 

themanwiththeplan

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very nice, all of those questions were at the forefront of my mind, particularly about the topping/fimming the AG. I usually top then train for 4 main colas, and I was really thinking of getting some bushmaster for it, because this run I am going to try running Mazar, a near landrace indica, right next to it, so I think i'm going to have a lot of fun trying to control the AG through veg and flower.

My beans come from bagseed from the dispensary in NM, who also grow some other Barney's genetics, so I think we are working with the same genes, except these beans are obviously from hermied clones.
yeah that AG is vigorous as FUK. if these werent LST'd then the acapulco gold would probably be twice as tall as the rest. (considering that the Kings kush isn't lst'd and the same height!) its gotten a LOT of growth considering its sharing 1 600w with 5 other plants in 5gal pots. im almost scared of what it'll do in the first 2-3wks of 12/12. lol this stuff has to be 80-90% sativa imo.

are you doing a grow journal or have pics? id love to see how it goes.

why do you think yours are from hermie'd clones? i got mine for the attitude fyi (all are feminized but showing female preflowers).

also mine are ready for flower as the nodes have begun to alternate (a sign of maturity along with the preflowers).
 

Lysemith, Lowkey

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Umm, hermied clones first: i shouldnt have said obvious: I know the dispensary grows from clone, but out of the 7 seeds I had, maybe 2 of them were dark, and all of them were tiny, but I got 5 sprouts from them, and they are all at the same rate of growth so far, the 1 Sweet Jimmy, and the 4 other Mazar which all had big dark seeds. And also, landrace sativas have a huuuge propensity to hermaphrodite so I am not really surprised.

The dispensary says 95% sativa on the AG, 90% sativa on the sweet jimmy, and another 90-95% on the mazar.
BUT! I just remembered, the dispensary just got back cannabinoid results from the lab, and the Trainwreck came in with 14%THC 7.4% CBD!!! WTF?!

I didnt preserve my genetics last round, and got a late start on this round, so I am going to do a 12/12 from seed in coco/happy frog soil blend. I'm only going to be about 2-3 weeks behind you then. I only go with 4 plants in flower, so I am going to wait until pre-flowers show, then clone/separate the rest of them.

I'll throw up some pics when I get around to it, I just cut down the afgoo today, and the blueberry last week, I learned a fuckton from this first "real" grow behind me.
 

D Man420

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Nice lookin plants man. All of mine currently in veg are also tied down for a bit of LST. Lookin good...

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themanwiththeplan

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Ok guys. I think I wanna go to 12/12 early. I realized my stash is getting low and to be honest im running out of patience to go for a full 6 weeks. I was thinking about next week (week 5 of veg)

i just fed the last two plants today. Included are some pics after watering.

Also, correction my AG has 5 tops instead of 4! discovered a VERY small new branch emerging from the top today.


I wanna get some opinions on if i should go to 12/12 now.

Heres the quick low down:
plants topped for the last time on oct. 10th. (is two weeks needed for recovery before going to 12/12?)
I fed a full dose of veg nutes today (2tsp grow big, 2 1/2tbl of bio bloom) pH'd water to the 6. area. (is it wise to switch to 12/12 right after a dose of veg nutes? or best to wait till after a plain watering?)

any/all opinions needed and appreciated!

as a side note i intend on doing a 24-48hr dark period before going to 12/12.


also attached are some pics from today so you can have something to look at thats current to form a better opinion on if they are fit for 12/12 yet.

enjoy the pics

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Lysemith, Lowkey

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Your plants look rockin! I would say, flip to 12/12 now. fuck it, why not? that AG is just going to turn into a stretching machine anyway.

People recommend flipping at least 2 weeks after topping or fimming because usually they are small plants that might be affected by such a stress. (the way I understand things) Your plants are sooo huge and healthy, I doubt they even felt it. Stress in moderation is GOOD.

I don't really think you need a 48 dark period before going in, I haven't seen any evidence that it helps. And I also don't really think it matters when exactly you have your nutrient schedule in relation to flipping, as long as the plant is getting what it needs, its probably a LOT more important in hydro and other such fine-tuned control systems, or if your using heavy synthetic chemicals to induce flower or whatnot - FF has none of that, and Grow Big is 6-4-4, so its got plenty of P and K for beginning flower.
 

themanwiththeplan

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Your plants look rockin! I would say, flip to 12/12 now. fuck it, why not? that AG is just going to turn into a stretching machine anyway.

People recommend flipping at least 2 weeks after topping or fimming because usually they are small plants that might be affected by such a stress. (the way I understand things) Your plants are sooo huge and healthy, I doubt they even felt it. Stress in moderation is GOOD.

I don't really think you need a 48 dark period before going in, I haven't seen any evidence that it helps. And I also don't really think it matters when exactly you have your nutrient schedule in relation to flipping, as long as the plant is getting what it needs, its probably a LOT more important in hydro and other such fine-tuned control systems, or if your using heavy synthetic chemicals to induce flower or whatnot - FF has none of that, and Grow Big is 6-4-4, so its got plenty of P and K for beginning flower.
thanks for the reply. Im hoping you're right. My new tops are already starting to separate from the branches.

My plants i know are ready based on how they are growing (ie. alternating branches, preflowers everywhere etc) i just didnt know if they were ready based on what i been doing to them.

Anyone else care to chime in? to flip or not to flip. that is it he question. or when better yet. today they are already on the 18/6 schedule so it wont be today.

oh and my reason for going 24-48 hrs in the dark because ive noticed the plants show sex a little sooner than when i don't usually.
 

themanwiththeplan

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still no opinions on if i should go to 12/12 now or wait?? need info ppl. Im really tempted to but don't wanna possibly rush things so i want some opinons.

i know this is hard to answer and a n00b question but i wanted to know how much im looking at come harvest time if i take THOSE plants pictured in my update and flower them under 2 600w hps lights. Nutes will be ff trio. water will be pH'd between 6.3-6.8.

is a harvest of 1lb (collectively among ALL plants) likely at this point or should i veg the full 6wks instead of 5? (note that wk 5 begins on monday officially)

All look good and ready to go (in my personal opinion) other than the GHS Kings kush. It was the runt of the litter since day 1. Im gonna have to put the blame on GHS as the rest look FAR superior in comparison but i cant see it being with killing you know? its probably the worst looking plant i have.

I plan on putting 3 under 1 hps and 3 under the other one.
 

themanwiththeplan

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thanks lowkey. you're the only one to help me out on this. was hoping for more input but it doesnt look like ill get it.

The plans are still in 18/6 but may just say fuk it and do my 1-2day dark period then go to 12/12 starting tomorrow. idk. we'll see. im not too happy with how my King's Kush is looking but the rest (as of today) look great. so idk if i should hold back on 12/12 for that runt to turn around or if i should just go 12/12 anyway.

OR

keep the King's kush in 18/6 and flower the rest? idk.

its a tough decision to be honest. just wanna make sure i make the right choice as i dont want ANY (or limit them) mistakes this time around.
 

D Man420

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I can't tell if they're showing sex yet. Are they? If there are pistols all over and she is flashing sex that's the best time to flower, allowing the plant to fully mature before flipping it to flower will definitely increase your yield significantly. Good luck.
 

themanwiththeplan

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I can't tell if they're showing sex yet. Are they? If there are pistols all over and she is flashing sex that's the best time to flower, allowing the plant to fully mature before flipping it to flower will definitely increase your yield significantly. Good luck.
hey thanks. yeah my nodes are alternating now and they are showing preflowers. so i know biologically they are ready. just hoping for a good harvest. tomorrow (monday) marks 5 weeks veg. Idk if i should go for another wk or just flip em already.
 

themanwiththeplan

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my stash is low which tempts me to flip but i gotta be honest its the only reason i want to flip. i had a few more zips id let em go but im down to my last zip - zip and a half and i gotta share w/ the gf...so yeah. my shortest flowering plant is (i think) the original skunk #1. ive heard it can go newhere from 7-11 weeks but generally closer to 7wks. i think the critical+ is a 45-50 day strain.

if bud stash wasn't a concern id let em go 2 full months of veg ;)

so idk. im thinking i should just bite the bullet and do it (hope the kings kush makes it ok as its the only plant that doesnt look very happy but its also the runt).
 

themanwiththeplan

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Man. I have had one ROUGH day between growing and other unrelated BS keeping me busy.

So to spare you my crap id like to get down to it and say im going to be putting the plants through a 2 day dark period starting from tonight's lights out period until thursday.

Obviously this means 12/12 is underway.

I based my decision on the plants health and size. The Acapulco Gold is HUGE. It has 5 tops growing out of it! the king's kush appeared to be slowly getting better not worse so i figure lets go ahead and do it. the rest appear to be good.

I did take the today as a chance to water some of my plants that needed watering. Today was a plain watering. I gave 4 gal of water a piece to the Acapulco Gold, Critical+, Original Skunk#1, and Strawberry Cough.

The only two not to be watered were the Kings kush and the sensi star. both felt too heavy while the others felt light so i figure they will hold find during the 2day dark period.

At the start of 12/12 I will begin using 1200w for flower.



I also set up my new t5 set up in my new small 2nd grow space. its really just a cut out in wall (basically a glorified closet). I put 4 of my 3gal pots filled with ocean forest in there and began to germ 4 beans (all fem) they are: Original Amnesia (dinafem), Confidential Cheese (RP), Sour Cream (Dna), Great White Shark (GHS).

This may not be related to this current grow but it soon will be. After i harvest my current grow the ones im germinating will be put into flower (for now they will veg under the t5's under these are done) then moved under the 600's while i germinate more and start them under the t5's and so on.

fyi the t5 fixure is a 4ft 6bulb fixture from hydrofarm. Found out it comes with a great 5 yr warranty. so i feel pretty good about my purchase so far but have yet to use it.

STay tuned.

I took more pics but am having trouble uploading the rest. hope this will do for now.

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TOP row left to right: Acapulco gold, Kings kush, Strawberry Cough
Bottom row left to right: Critical+, Original Skunk #1, Sensi Star

pic taken 1hr before lights out today.
 
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