Strawberry Kush Micro Bubbleponics/CFL (previously from newbies as: **minimal grow**)

ssc0530

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Man... I think they look good. I imagine the color difference is in the genetics. Are they supposed to be all the same strain? If they are all feeding off of the same rez and the ph is in check, then you are good. With regards to the curling, What type of lights are you using and how close are your plants to the light? My leaves started to curl before I added nutes. After I added them, it flattened out. I think you are fine. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck!!

yeah, i will add nutes tomorrow i think? I am going at 1/4 like i had suggested to you.
I have my lights (2x 26W CFL daylights) set at about 6" above them. maybe too little light? what would be a symptom of that i wonder.... stunted growth? because I have noticed a slight halt in growth---but that could just be my babies starving for those nutes.

thanks for the response amax. I hope your new session is going well! ill have to check in with you soon.
 

ssc0530

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Ok, week three is almost behind me. After noticing some yellowing in one of my plants. I decided to go a head with the nutrients. Heres my steps... (feel free to chime in guys).


emptied + cleaned res.
refilled res. with filtered h2o, and allowed one inch from bottom of net pots to give "air room" since my roots are definitely hanging.
The h2o amounted to 11 gal. in my 18 gal. res.
So my Humboldt Master A (4-0-6) nutes call for 1mL to 1L for veg stage... I cut that in half for my fairly young plants to adjust to this 1st round.
So at 11 gal. you have 41.64L = 41,640mL/2 = 20,820mL (@ 1/2 strength?)

**EDIT**
If I measured in oz. to pour into my 11 gal of water... so 20,820mL = 704.01oz.??? I have a problem thinking I need to put that much in to my res considering that would be too concentrated. I instead for now I put in .704oz to see what will happen. I really need advice on this one guys.

I was this exact because I don't have the ppm meter... seems to be out of my budget at this current point in time.

Lastly I changed pH to 5.8-6.0 range.

Pics:
1.)Yellowing plant compared to the darker green one (similar in size)
2.)Yellowing plant by its self
3.)Second best growing (darker green with curls)
4.)both of the runts (one in back is really taking off)...
5.)the smaller of the runts trying to make a move!


3wk yellowing comparison.jpg3wk yellowing (1st healthiest).jpg3wk second healthiest.jpg3wk two runts.jpg3wk runt 2 .jpg
 

ssc0530

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Looking good bro. Keep it up... Im about a week or two behind you.

I had made a mistake I believe, miscalculated my measurements by not dividing the mL in half. instead divided the L so I came out with .704oz instead of what I meant to get which is 704.01oz... but that doesn't sound right either. I mean thats way too much. what do you think

I actually put in just the .704 oz just to see. man I wish I could afford the ppm meter...
 

amax420

Active Member
i came up with .704 oz for 11 gallons... Should not be very much at all. I use 2 teaspoons for 10 gallons
 

ssc0530

Member
ok I think Im good at the moment, I watched some videos for Humboldt master a&b. The ppms usually go:
1050ppm = 8mL/gal
so, 525ppm = 4mL/gal
and, 262.5 = 2mL/gal.


So, last night I had .704oz in there already so I added .744oz (22mL) more to get to 1.45oz +/- total nutrient. I should have a ppm of 300 or around that is still nice. pH is adjusted to 5.8-6.0 (that 22mL threw it up to about 6.9-7.0.


Feel free to give advice

Btw, my reservoir is now clouding and frothing from the mixture + bubble stones. I take it that this is expected? I'll keep you guys informed.
 

ssc0530

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i came up with .704 oz for 11 gallons... Should not be very much at all. I use 2 teaspoons for 10 gallons

sheesh, i hope I didn't add too much. check out the post above to see what i just did. Im at 1.45oz total nutrient in 11 gallons.
 

ssc0530

Member
sheesh, i hope I didn't add too much. check out the post above to see what i just did. Im at 1.45oz total nutrient in 11 gallons.
my smallest plant and my biggest plant both have brown tips to the leaves... I am thinking pH problem or nutrient burn. i will be going back to .704 oz of nutes i believe tomorrow. which means emptying the res .....damn.
 

ssc0530

Member
well, im up early in the am after finishing my res. I noticed too many burnt ends to my leaves and I put my foot down. I got the res cleaned out, refilled with filtered h2o and put in 0.41 oz of nutrients = 12mL for my 11 gallons of h2o. lastly I adjusted pH to 5.8-6.0. Now I went to about 1/4th strength like I figured I should have in the first place. I even went a little under just to allow my babies to rest, but still feed--because they need it at this point.


Incase there is heat stress involved, I raised my lights to 7.5" above the tops. I believe it is nute burn however, I saw one or two smaller roots had burnt, brown ends. Stems are also turning red on all of my plants... probably from lack of phosphate (any natural sources I can handle that with? or it is natural for the plant?) I just hope things get better.


we'll see what happens.
 
Simplest and cheapest yet still quality nute regimen is Lucas Formula (google it) with GH powdered MaxiBloom. This, plus CalMag (for some strains,) plus pH Up and Down are all you need for a solid grow. Though I'd say that it helps to get a decent, cheap RO/DI system, too.
 

amax420

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Lets see some pics of those burnt edges. That just means they were overfed. Things should be fine now that you have adjusted the nute levels.
 

ssc0530

Member
I will try to get pics up tonite. but pics are definitely coming the 15th (week 4).

Still have brown edges. I had also flushed the pots over a drain to get rid of nute shock. I believe they are stabilizing... like the edges are browning because they still are absorbing it but it should slow down since the res has been changed and the hydroton rock flushed..also raised lights to 13 1/2" above tops of plants incase it was heat stress. I did notice the brown tips flip upward... which I've been told was a sign of that.
 

ssc0530

Member
I have provided some pictures to not only detail burns but to show growth a little early. You will notice that the smaller of all four plants shows the most burns for obvious reasons. it is weaker. My favorite plants are burned as well however.

Hope my babies are alright, and not slowly on the out.

pic one: plants one and two in comparison.
pic two: plant one's burnt leaf tips.
pic three: smallest plant's burns (tips and edges) <<< compare this and other pics to last photo set (week 3)... they are growing well these scary past four days all in all.
pic four: comparison between smaller plants.

3 wk 4 d.jpg3 wk 4 d-2 .jpg3 wk 4 d-3.jpg3 wk 4 d-4.jpg
 

amax420

Active Member
I don't think the edges will repair themselves once burned. They might since they are so young. I'm pretty sure you will be fine with plain water until you see signs of recovery. What kind of water are you using? Raising the light will prob be good until she starts looking strong. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck.
 

ssc0530

Member
I don't think the edges will repair themselves once burned. They might since they are so young. I'm pretty sure you will be fine with plain water until you see signs of recovery. What kind of water are you using? Raising the light will prob be good until she starts looking strong. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck.
i use filtered tap water, I raised the lights to 13.5". there i dont feel the heat when i put my hands to the tops of the plants but barely. I have only 12mL of nutes in my 11 gals of water? think that is still too much?
 

amax420

Active Member
I think that is perfect. Let her sit for a few days. She should recover nicely. Upload some pics in a few days, id like to see how they are doing. Overall, they look good. These plants are very resilient.
 

ssc0530

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bump.... anyone out there?

  • i think they are getting back to normal. the plant is a lot greener and i cropped a few of the worse leaves on the bottom since i saw they were spreading. my main priority has been to keep up with the pH. using vinegar only allows me to get half a day it seems before going back to 7.0​


 
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