Yep. You're correct and I'm not going to argue that. All I'm saying is people love to argue on the internet but provide no evidence. I have linked to multiple national medicine websites with my proof.... I'll wait for other people to post theirs. Until then I've proved my point in this thread.
Once again....where did I ever try to imply any facts or figures...or even bring up eagle 20 or any other product? I didnt... so go spew your love for fungicide somewhere else or at someone else.
Your stance against pesticides/fungicides has been pretty clear in every post on this thread. I was simply stating, chemicals or not, you are still ingesting hydrogen cyanide. Enjoy your day.
See. This is the reason I started growing my own weed, back in mid 70's when the gov't was spraying fields with poison.
thanks for the info, but the text at which I was referring to said something about a half-life of 66 days. which is a bit much when compared to the time of a grow which is +3 months. Yeah, so I can live with a chemical compound that will be reduced to a tiny fraction of what it once was.
http://triangleturf.net/labels/dow/DOW-Eagle 20EW MSDS.pdf
I saw that on the label also, and couldn't find an answer. Most studies were field trials on apples and tomatoes, and root crops as I recall
myco eats root exudates, bacteria don't
I see a lot of "may" in there. That is an MSDS sheet, not a scientific study. Sugar also "may" cause diabetes.
website says its a bacterial product, so as soon as the bacteria die off, they're gone..much better idea than eagle 20
split all the hairs you want, there's no reason to use a potentially harmful product when there's no compelling reason to do so except expedience and/or greed....if people used good practices in their grow rooms, and kept things clean, there would be a lot less reason to ever have to use this crap, but that's work, and they don't want to work, they want to spray some shit on the mess to make it go away, but it doesn't go away, not for a long fucking time. it just moves into the lungs and endocrine systems of all the people who smoke the shit
I absolutely agree. No compelling reason to use one, and I myself don't even use it. Just stating facts and responding to the initial poster, who asked for a strong product.
Definitely the simple answer I was looking for. Thanks Roger
i'm actually a noncombatant, most of the time. i use spinosad in veg, and will throw in some pyrethrin if it's a particularly tough infestation, but those plants do not get put into flower until they're clean, and need no further treatment. and i keep my grow room clean, so i've never actually had a reason to use any antifungals, but i do clean tthe whole room top to bottom at least every three months, and use a spray of physan 20 to keep anything from ever getting started. it's a pain in the ass, but it's a lot less of a pain in the ass than dealing with pm or botrytus.
i agree with you, but...i also kind of agree with him...there's nothing wrong with using some chemicals in a responsible manner...the key words are some and responsible...some things should never be used, ever, like paclobutazol, myclobutanyl, mitacloprid...and some things that are ok to eat may or may not be ok to smoke...a lot more research has to be done in that area.
100K x's more concentrated than Hydroguard. I run DWC Cucumbers in 90 degree solution. Garden Friendly so I would believe all the good guys live.