Stupid question from a stupid person and im sure il get stupid answers

Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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Because we are RIU I know damn well I'm about to get roasted for asking this but one good turn deserves another as I roast folks daily.

Anyway here is your bait.

Can we somehow reverse engineer crosses backwards?

I know this is ridiculous but then again I'm not a genetic engineer so what do I know!

I ask this because original forbidden fruit seems to cease to exists as its original strain.

Not like I'm going to have the ability to pull it off if it is possible but I want to know if its possible at all.

Anyway have fun, roast me, enjoy the lambasting.

WIZ
 
FastFreddi

FastFreddi

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Wizzlebiz said:
Because we are RIU I know damn well I'm about to get roasted for asking this but one good turn deserves another as I roast folks daily.

Anyway here is your bait.

Can we somehow reverse engineer crosses backwards?

I know this is ridiculous but then again I'm not a genetic engineer so what do I know!

I ask this because original forbidden fruit seems to cease to exists as its original strain.

Not like I'm going to have the ability to pull it off if it is possible but I want to know if its possible at all.

Anyway have fun, roast me, enjoy the lambasting.

WIZ
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Only stupid questions are those unasked Wiz.
FF
 
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Jimbo the Gael

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It's actually possible to an extent. They're doing it right now with English bulldogs. Selectively breeding individuals with the desired traits together to get back to what the breed used to look like.
If you took FF crosses that had different traits and bred them together selecting for the traits closer to the original FF, you could probably get pretty close. I doubt it would be exact, but you might be able to match the original terp and cannabinoid profile. It would be a lot of work, and take a lot of time though.
I'm feeling too lazy to google, so I don't know anything about the FF original, but if it was a cross, and you still know the parent strains you might have better luck trying to re-create it that way.
 
HydroKid239

HydroKid239

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Not sure how close to the original it is, or it may be their own concoction. Something unknown wants me to believe that
if you spend enough time it could be possible to get somewhere in the ball park or the original.. maybe not exact like @Jimbo the Gael
stated.
 
Jon Galt

Jon Galt

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Jimbo the Gael said:
It's actually possible to an extent. They're doing it right now with English bulldogs. Selectively breeding individuals with the desired traits together to get back to what the breed used to look like.
If you took FF crosses that had different traits and bred them together selecting for the traits closer to the original FF, you could probably get pretty close. I doubt it would be exact, but you might be able to match the original terp and cannabinoid profile. It would be a lot of work, and take a lot of time though.
I'm feeling too lazy to google, so I don't know anything about the FF original, but if it was a cross, and you still know the parent strains you might have better luck trying to re-create it that way.
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This is how I'd approach it. Good suggestion, Jim.
 
O

oill

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Wizzlebiz said:
Because we are RIU I know damn well I'm about to get roasted for asking this but one good turn deserves another as I roast folks daily.

Anyway here is your bait.

Can we somehow reverse engineer crosses backwards?

I know this is ridiculous but then again I'm not a genetic engineer so what do I know!

I ask this because original forbidden fruit seems to cease to exists as its original strain.

Not like I'm going to have the ability to pull it off if it is possible but I want to know if its possible at all.

Anyway have fun, roast me, enjoy the lambasting.

WIZ
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Yeah... I boned my sister and she gave birth to my dad.... freaky
 
GeneBanker

GeneBanker

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I feel like you need a sample of the target beginning, in order to start reversing. Then maybe through gene splicing you could carve out the unwanted genetics. A journey without a destination is just a drive.
 
Jon Galt

Jon Galt

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Jimbo the Gael said:
It's actually possible to an extent. They're doing it right now with English bulldogs. Selectively breeding individuals with the desired traits together to get back to what the breed used to look like.
If you took FF crosses that had different traits and bred them together selecting for the traits closer to the original FF, you could probably get pretty close. I doubt it would be exact, but you might be able to match the original terp and cannabinoid profile. It would be a lot of work, and take a lot of time though.
I'm feeling too lazy to google, so I don't know anything about the FF original, but if it was a cross, and you still know the parent strains you might have better luck trying to re-create it that way.
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Let me also add, I'd try to find a forbidden fruit cross. Then I could hunt some packs to find a forbidden fruit leaning mother and S1 that. Hunt that S1 generation for another forbidden fruit leaner, and S2 that. Take it to S3 if you had luck in the first 2 generations. Might be faster to do it this way since you're not adding a male to select away from. Just my thoughts.
 
injinji

injinji

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I have two strains of Jack Shunk (jack herer x shit/skunk). With the male being a skunk leaner in one and shit leaner in the other. I'm working it back towards the Jack Herer, picking males and females that fit the bill. I'm up to f3 so far. (I know I could just buy JH beans, but I don't spend money on growing)

I also have a strain that is (#1 Random Bud X Triple Purple Dojo) X Glued Cherry Dojo (which has the same TPD male for a father). I call this one 1 random glazed cherry donut. I have not f2'ed it yet, but I want to work it toward the TPD when I get the time.
 
BBQtoast

BBQtoast

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Many banks have this seed and if they didn't there is a lot of fruity strains you will find something else to grow.
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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GeneBanker said:
I feel like you need a sample of the target beginning, in order to start reversing. Then maybe through gene splicing you could carve out the unwanted genetics. A journey without a destination is just a drive.
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True, if you were trying to effectively achieve your best attempts at a genetic copy of seed and different phenotypes..

But in the context of smoko. What if it's a nostalgic feeling you had from smoking it once upon a time?
Maybe it was it's appearance, smell, high etc?
I think there's a lot to be said for genetics and heirloom seeds.

And the cultivar we might have a fond memory of in this context was likely a clone.
 
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