Subtles WW, A-Train, P-Kush, Mama Mia, Skunk#1 Grow!

Subtlechaos

Subtlechaos

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northeastern lights said:
Hey Sub how come you keep the lights so far away? As I remember they are only 400's. They appear to be 3+ feet away.
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When vegging them, I had the light about A foot to a foot and a half away from the tops. When I flipped the photoperiod, They were all pretty short,(two of them were REALLY short) and by pulling the light back, it caused them to stretch even more than they would have, already.

I figure, I've got the 8' ceilings, and the bamboo stakes, why not let them stretch a little. I can always put it back closer, if it turns out to be advisable. For their first week flowering, I really wanted them to reach for the sky, ya know? When I drop them back down, the smaller two will continue to stretch a little. I'm not exactly sure when I want to drop them back down.

I got one of THESE, and it says the light at the tops of my plants, is really good. The gauge goes from 0-2000. Yesterday, I got about 1300 at the tops. Not sure if that's good for 830W, tho. I respect your opinion and experience as a grower, NEL. Do you think that now that I've got a good stretch this past week, I should drop the lights back down to 12-18"?

 
Subtlechaos

Subtlechaos

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I'm thinking about topping the girls, but I dont want to stunt them either. The Powerkush and Himalayan Gold are plenty tall, and the skunk is getting tall too. The only topping method I'm familiar with is single topping for two main colas. I'm putting it off for a little bit to let the skunk get a little bigger. I dont think I wanna' top the Mama Mia because I want her to get bigger.... ... ... idk ... ...

Any of you have suggestions on which to top, when to top, and what method to use? I wanna' maximize yield, but I dont want to use a method I can fuck up, either.

I'm open to ideas... ... As long as their good ones.bongsmilie
 
northeastern lights

northeastern lights

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Subtlechaos said:
When vegging them, I had the light about A foot to a foot and a half away from the tops. When I flipped the photoperiod, They were all pretty short,(two of them were REALLY short) and by pulling the light back, it caused them to stretch even more than they would have, already.

I figure, I've got the 8' ceilings, and the bamboo stakes, why not let them stretch a little. I can always put it back closer, if it turns out to be advisable. For their first week flowering, I really wanted them to reach for the sky, ya know? When I drop them back down, the smaller two will continue to stretch a little. I'm not exactly sure when I want to drop them back down.

I got one of THESE, and it says the light at the tops of my plants, is really good. The gauge goes from 0-2000. Yesterday, I got about 1300 at the tops. Not sure if that's good for 830W, tho. I respect your opinion and experience as a grower, NEL. Do you think that now that I've got a good stretch this past week, I should drop the lights back down to 12-18"?
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Well I like to get the lights as close as possible. I just don't see how giving them less light is beneficial. In flowering they'll stretch a bit anyway depending on strain.


All I can say is the more light the denser your buds will potentially be.
 
Subtlechaos

Subtlechaos

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northeastern lights said:
Well I like to get the lights as close as possible. I just don't see how giving them less light is beneficial. In flowering they'll stretch a bit anyway depending on strain.


All I can say is the more light the denser your buds will potentially be.
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Your right. i got a pretty good stretch, this past week. I'm going out to the farm tomorrow. I'll drop em' within a couple of feet. I dont wanna' get that unshrouded light too close tho.

Thanx, NeL. Any advice on method for topping? I'm doing that when I go out there tomorrow, as well.
 
svchop889

svchop889

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Subtlechaos said:
Your right. i got a pretty good stretch, this past week. I'm going out to the farm tomorrow. I'll drop em' within a couple of feet. I dont wanna' get that unshrouded light too close tho.

Thanx, NeL. Any advice on method for topping? I'm doing that when I go out there tomorrow, as well.[/B][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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yeah top early, at this point I don't think it will benefit you. Low Stress Training could though.
 
northeastern lights

northeastern lights

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Subtlechaos said:
Your right. i got a pretty good stretch, this past week. I'm going out to the farm tomorrow. I'll drop em' within a couple of feet. I dont wanna' get that unshrouded light too close tho.

Thanx, NeL. Any advice on method for topping? I'm doing that when I go out there tomorrow, as well.[/B][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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I wouldn't top when flowering, bending and tying them down is key to fill out the entire canopy, that is when there are voids to fill.
 
Subtlechaos

Subtlechaos

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svchop889 said:
yeah top early, at this point I don't think it will benefit you. Low Stress Training could though.
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northeastern lights said:
I wouldn't top when flowering, bending and tying them down is key to fill out the entire canopy, that is when there are voids to fill.
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You'll have to excuse my random bouts of noobism, but there are in fact MANY THINGS I've yet to learn. I've never done either of those things before, nor have I seen a grow journal with it done.(And known about it) How do I go about doing it? What sort of string/rope works best?

Got a link to a good tie-down system? I'd gladly take a look. If it weren't for this type of help, I'd still be growin bagseed, and pollinating females. Hahaha.

What are the chances of me fuckin' somethin' up, and breaking my plants? I tend to get burnt' and fuck shit up.:roll:
 
svchop889

svchop889

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Subtlechaos said:

You'll have to excuse my random bouts of noobism, but there are in fact MANY THINGS I've yet to learn. I've never done either of those things before, nor have I seen a grow journal with it done.(And known about it) How do I go about doing it? What sort of string/rope works best?

Got a link to a good tie-down system? I'd gladly take a look. If it weren't for this type of help, I'd still be growin bagseed, and pollinating females. Hahaha.

What are the chances of me fuckin' somethin' up, and breaking my plants? I tend to get burnt' and fuck shit up.:roll:
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lol Its alright man I'm a noob too as you can see by my plants. but I do have some experience with LST basically my method is to tape the string to the side of the pot then basically drap the string im using around what ever branch I'm tying down and tape the other end of the string back to the pot. I leave some hang past the tape so that I can pull it tight because typically my plants pull the string back up. this, this in my opinion is the best method because the back and forth ''tug of war'' with the plant seems to greatly thicken the stems and make the plant stronger overall. The whole point of this is to get more light to the side branches essentially creating more tops from all of the side branches. I just started doing this to some of my topped plants and am looking at 5 tops on one of mine already and just started. you will want to use a thick string so that it does not cut into the stem. and start with the freshest growth first as its most bendable. I can get you pics of mine If you like man.
 
northeastern lights

northeastern lights

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Bending is easy, you can use just about anything. I use garden tape. Cheap and easy.


The point of it for me is to fill and even out the entire canopy. Usually I grow SOG style but at the moment I have some decent size plants going.
 
svchop889

svchop889

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northeastern lights said:
Bending is easy, you can use just about anything. I use garden tape. Cheap and easy.


The point of it for me is to fill and even out the entire canopy. Usually I grow SOG style but at the moment I have some decent size plants going.
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bending is when you kind of half way snap the branch right?
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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ya that is supercropping. one thing to remember about plants is they do have regeneration powers. if you snap a branch itll heal itself up and be better than new. all super cropping in is you take you fingers and squeeze on the stem until you hear a pop. that is the vascular snapping. after the snap, you bend the top part off. i supercropped one of my bagseeds yesterday. i was watching the 2002 cannabis cup the other day and this guy said said he always supercrops to achieve higher yields and better calyx to leaf ratios. but what supercropping does is when the vascular heals, itll be twice as big their, increasing the efficiency of its ability to transport water and nutes
 
Subtlechaos

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... ... Yeah... ... That definitely sounds like something I'm gonna' mess up and kill my plants, trying to do. idk. They've been doing so good, I dont want to fuck up, now. Ya' know?
 
svchop889

svchop889

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Subtlechaos said:
... ... Yeah... ... That definitely sounds like something I'm gonna' mess up and kill my plants, trying to do. idk. They've been doing so good, I dont want to fuck up, now. Ya' know?
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yeah man supercropping scares the crap out of me honestly, I cant bring myself to do it. I do gently squeeze stems though but the difference between is like giving them a hug or just plain breaking the bitches neck you know. I top once early on then LST the rest of the way.
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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well that is what you are doing when supercropping. dont worry, you should do it to your main stems around 2 weeks of flower. then tie them up. you can get bigger buds because they buds can get more nutrients. thats usually how they get those MAssive colas. just keep putting pressure slowly until you hear the snap. you willl hear it. it is wuite loud. i did this to my bagseed just to see how it does. im going to take off the support in a few days and ill tell you how it worked. you get an almost kind of knot in the stem. but ya dont worry about bending or anything like that. you can manipulate them pretty well. you can steadily pull them farther and farther out, over a week or two. just train them.
 
Subtlechaos

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I got this hash GIVEN to me for nothin' by a really good dude, and a good friend. He also gave me three free beans of a wicked skunk strain! It takes a beast to give this away for free...


Not real sure why I posted about it... Guess I wanted to help restore everyones faith in humanity. There are still cool people out there, who just wanna' be cool to others.bongsmilie
 
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