Suffering plant?
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Alienwidow
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It looks like the soil is the issue mainly. That shit looks whack. How does it drain? How often do you have to water? Whats in it like whats it made out of ingredients wise? Is there instructions on how to use it regarding feeding and when to start feeding?
Personally id go get some happy frog or fox farm ocean forest soil, then a small bag of pearlite. Mix em 85/15ish and replant that thing as soon as you can and get rid of as much old dirt from her as you can. Then watch it auto pilot for the next month on just water and a couple drops of calmag, bennies dont hurt either early on. My 2cents.
Personally id go get some happy frog or fox farm ocean forest soil, then a small bag of pearlite. Mix em 85/15ish and replant that thing as soon as you can and get rid of as much old dirt from her as you can. Then watch it auto pilot for the next month on just water and a couple drops of calmag, bennies dont hurt either early on. My 2cents.
Just using some cheap Verve Multipurpose - No idea on ingredients, no packaging left and nothing on the internet.
drains ok, I water till it comes out the bottom maybe once every 2-3 days. after 2-3 days, top inch of soil is dry.
Are you saying drainage would be causing this or a deficiency from the compost not having enough nutes?
Really no idea how to re-pot and get most of the soil off without damaging roots.
Wouldnt I also risk detaching the plant from the roots if removing the soil?
Would I just take out of pot and wash the roots until no soil remains? - they would have to go back in the same pot but with a different mix as I have no more room.
Lets say I got all of the soil off and just had roots hanging down - how would I put into the new mix without cramping all of the roots?
Would bad drainage be able to turn the leaves yellow/brown while going a bit crispy?
I imagined bad drainage would be more likely to show signs of over watering due to high moisture ??
Thx
Bugeye
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I guess my answer was short because I don't know what to tell you to remedy this grow. I've never heard of anyone growing mj in pure compost and she doesn't look like she is liking it. Not all compost is the same though so I'm sure someone has been able to do it. Was sort of hoping you got your compost mix from someone that had used it before. In general, compost is too hot to start mj in. It is something that we like to add to our soil mix in controlled amounts.
I don't see any way to remove the compost from the root ball at this point without killing her from the stress. Maybe someone else who has successfully done this can coach you.
If you just transplant into better soil, you still have the issue of all that compost surrounding and burning a rather important part of your root zone. Maybe she can grow through it? Maybe your compost is not as hot as I'm thinking? I just don't know.
I don't see any way to remove the compost from the root ball at this point without killing her from the stress. Maybe someone else who has successfully done this can coach you.
If you just transplant into better soil, you still have the issue of all that compost surrounding and burning a rather important part of your root zone. Maybe she can grow through it? Maybe your compost is not as hot as I'm thinking? I just don't know.
ButchyBoy
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The color of your compost looks to be too light. Is that chicken compost?????
A good soil will be a dark rich color like wet coffee grounds.
The color of the plant looks hungry to me also, but then the deformity doesn't go with hungry but I may very well be wrong since I am a beginner....
A good soil will be a dark rich color like wet coffee grounds.
The color of the plant looks hungry to me also, but then the deformity doesn't go with hungry but I may very well be wrong since I am a beginner....
ButchyBoy
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I did a quick search on verve multipurpose compost and read a bunch of reviews about problems using it. If I were you I would probably re-pot into some better soil. The plants are small enough that the root ball wont be huge. I would knock some of the compost off of the outside of the root ball and stick it in the new soil.
Either way, they are suffering now so why not give it a try!
Either way, they are suffering now so why not give it a try!
harris hawk
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Might be to much N-P-K in potting soil, best to use just a top soil/mychroohiza easyy. then when in seedling stage start nutrients at reduced rates
Thx bugeye and others.
Bit confusing. Some say it looks hungry.. some say compost has too many nutes.. we got 2 different ends of the spectrum lol.
I think either way I should still transplant but tbh.. autos in week 3... last week of veg probly... maybe left it too late, transplant stress could b a bad time.
Would nute burn take 3 weeks to show?...if not I will probly start feeding.
I think I'll ride it out if its nute burn or a deficiency and needs feeding.
If its lack of oxygen, I need to do something...
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Bit confusing. Some say it looks hungry.. some say compost has too many nutes.. we got 2 different ends of the spectrum lol.
I think either way I should still transplant but tbh.. autos in week 3... last week of veg probly... maybe left it too late, transplant stress could b a bad time.
Would nute burn take 3 weeks to show?...if not I will probly start feeding.
I think I'll ride it out if its nute burn or a deficiency and needs feeding.
If its lack of oxygen, I need to do something...
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ButchyBoy
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Pure compost should be pretty hot which could cause the curling disfigured leaf's I believe. (someone correct me if I am wrong)
On the other hand, the pale green color would mean lacking in food. (again correct me if I am wrong)
I still think transplanting it into better soil would be the better option.
On the other hand, the pale green color would mean lacking in food. (again correct me if I am wrong)
I still think transplanting it into better soil would be the better option.
Nizza
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yes if the compost is rich and is straight, not mixed in with amendments to make potting soil
likely that you have plenty of nutes in the compost but since its strong, is bringing PH out of wack and locking out nutes
that bag might have been good to topdress over properly made soil, or used in your own soil recipe
straight compost with no buffering agents is going to cause problems, I learned this one year that i decided to get some local black gold and pot straight into it
some potting soils use powdered oyster shell and a little dolomite lime to buffer the soil
i'd do 30% compost, 30% peat, 10% worm castings, 20% perlite or vermiculite or growstone
then amend with what you want, like dolomite, and other things you can get your hands on
this is a basic soil recipe that you can tweak the way you want
to "fix" that problem, try dissolving 1 tbsp or tsp into 1 gallon of water, and water the plant slowly until there is runoff, from then on water with plain water and every month or so , re-apply dolomite
but if i were you, i'd chuck it and start with good soil, then put your all into it
the plant may be hungry, but the food should be there , since it's "compost"
the problem must be PH problems, either due to overwatering or being unbuffered in the first place
likely that you have plenty of nutes in the compost but since its strong, is bringing PH out of wack and locking out nutes
that bag might have been good to topdress over properly made soil, or used in your own soil recipe
straight compost with no buffering agents is going to cause problems, I learned this one year that i decided to get some local black gold and pot straight into it
some potting soils use powdered oyster shell and a little dolomite lime to buffer the soil
i'd do 30% compost, 30% peat, 10% worm castings, 20% perlite or vermiculite or growstone
then amend with what you want, like dolomite, and other things you can get your hands on
this is a basic soil recipe that you can tweak the way you want
to "fix" that problem, try dissolving 1 tbsp or tsp into 1 gallon of water, and water the plant slowly until there is runoff, from then on water with plain water and every month or so , re-apply dolomite
but if i were you, i'd chuck it and start with good soil, then put your all into it
the plant may be hungry, but the food should be there , since it's "compost"
the problem must be PH problems, either due to overwatering or being unbuffered in the first place