suggestions for training this og kush? (plus leaf taco)

Hey guys. So I'm on round two (sort of) now that I'm almost done harvesting my first crop. About 20 ounces off of 6 plants, but I won't know for sure til I finish taking down this hybrid That's still standing.

Anyways, this this weird editor automatically changed my font on me, let's get to the important stuff: I have an og kush that I vegged the shut out of. I think it vegged for about 2 months, maybe a little more. I'm not even sure how many tops it has; I fimmed it once and got like 8, but then topped a few of those and took some clones and frankly, it wound up a little out of hand.

View attachment 2882069 Its in a 7 gallon smart pot, and its day 10 of 12/12 and has dimensions of about 30"x30"x30". I'm interested to see how the buds form (and what the colas will look like) BC it has so frickin many branches

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But, I know its gonna be dank as all hell (mark my words lol) BC A) it came from HSO (I ran hso's Bubba kush first run and it was AMAZING), and B), it isn't even finished with week two and it already has trichones forming. The Bubba kush was my only plant that had nice, picturesque swollen calyxes and it was suuuuper frosty, and I can already tell that this plant has many of the dank characteristics of that one.

I'm wanting to train it a little, try to open it up so that it has better light penetration. Its been lollipopped a little bit, but not much BC it isn't under a scrog or anything. I made these little individual scrog screens that I used on a plant my first run, and am thinking about maybe trying to put one on this one and feed the branches up through it. I've also thought about just tying the branches somehow to the side, to open the center up a little more. Any tips/suggestions on training it at this point?

Also, I have a little leaf taco thibg going on. Based off of the search function here, it could either be that the light's too close, pH, over feeding, under feeding, cal-mag deficiency. I'm leaning towards maybe the lights too close, or magnesium deficiency since along with the tacoing, the margins of the leaves are yellowing and the veins are green. I feed with the roots organics 5 mil program, + kool bloom. I've been flushing the passed 2 or 3 waterings, but treating with a heavy dose of cal mag and I guess it does seem to be helping so far. I also have been kicking my light down to 600w to see if that helps. I heard someone say that all plants have a pH swing when they switch from veg to flowering/fruiting, and it seems to have happened to me on both of my first 2 runs. Anyways, thanks for any replies. I have a tendency of making my posts really long, especially lately where I haven't been on as much.

Craaaaaap. Lemme post the pics:

Wow that is a TREE. Great job man!

If you want to train and open her up then the only training I recommend during flowering is LST.



J

I'm just super stoked how well she's doing. My other plants had much more severe pH problems in the first run. Not too severe, but enough to affect yield, they definitely didn't look this good this early on. In fact, they were basically on pause for about 10 days after they sprouted their pistils.

And I'm not sure if the fact that this plant was sexxed and then re-vegged or what, but it actually has little tiny calyxes starting to swell on some of the bottom buds, and I can already tell what the nug is gonna smell like when its finished. Its just crazy, I ran mostly bag seed my first run, and then the Bubba kush from hso and a white widow from g-13 labs. The Bubba kush blew the white widow away, as well as all of the bag seed. I'm definitely a supporter and recommender of hso breeders at this point, for anyone who jumped on attitudes October promotion. I have their blue dream and their desert diesel in some root riot cubes now, waiting on me to finish my half aeroponic/half dwc system that I'm building. That's for another thread, tho

Nice Plant! I'd just use some ties and maybe spread the thing out horizontally if possible to make a bigger footprint to absorb light.

There is more than one school of thought on removing leaves, I personally do not remove leaves unless they are yellowing.

Why remove a leaf that is receiving good light just to get light lower ? Remember the plant can translocate materials within itself as needed. The plant itself knows when a leaf has outlived it's usefulness and is no longer adding to the growth of the plant and individual leaves will yellow, which is when you can take them off. Otherwise, if a leaf is green, it is doing it's job and adding to the growth of the plant.

Only reason I would remove foliage is if I had a humidity/airflow issue causing actual problems. Removing large healthy fan leaves = less photosynthesis.

OK, thanks J. I super cropped a little during flower my last run and I'm sure it affected my yield adversely. I'm thinking you're right, my best bet for getting some more light in her is probably to find a way to tie the branches out a little wider somehow.

If I could work a scrog screen down onto it, I would have to lollipop a lot more and there are a lot of decent sized branches further down the tops. But if I can't get better light penetration then they probably won't fill out all that well anyways.

Here's a pic of a plant I finished this spring nowhere as big as yours. I topped, fimmed, supercropped during veg then did LST with florist ties to the top of the pot the whole flower cycle. Just kept bending them over to try to keep top even, and rearranging limbs to get maximum light. More pics in my Spring Grow in sig.

Good luck, looks to have huge potential.

Double Post for some reason.

ThorGanjason said:

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I'm just super stoked how well she's doing. My other plants had much more severe pH problems in the first run. Not too severe, but enough to affect yield, they definitely didn't look this good this early on. In fact, they were basically on pause for about 10 days after they sprouted their pistils.

And I'm not sure if the fact that this plant was sexxed and then re-vegged or what, but it actually has little tiny calyxes starting to swell on some of the bottom buds, and I can already tell what the nug is gonna smell like when its finished. Its just crazy, I ran mostly bag seed my first run, and then the Bubba kush from hso and a white widow from g-13 labs. The Bubba kush blew the white widow away, as well as all of the bag seed. I'm definitely a supporter and recommender of hso breeders at this point, for anyone who jumped on attitudes October promotion. I have their blue dream and their desert diesel in some root riot cubes now, waiting on me to finish my half aeroponic/half dwc system that I'm building. That's for another thread, tho

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Lol.

I'm currently growing OG KUSH and PINEAPPLE SKUNK by HSO.

Both are being mainlined.

Growth is good on both.

BUT

Im pretty sure HSO is just a rebrand of some others genetics.

Alot of HSO pictures are similar/same as DINAFEM.



J

Aim--yeah that's similar to the stress training I do as well. My first grow I just kept bending them to the outside trying to get better light Penetration/ even canopy.

J-- hell yeah, I've heard great things about mainlining. I actually started this og kush out as a mainline, but I fimmed instead of just topping and wound up with several different sized tops-- too uneven to get a nice manifold.

And that kind of doesn't surprise me about hso. The og is actually VERY similar to the Bubba kush. The leaf color/size/shape is slightly different, but they both are somewhat drought tolerant and the smell is nearly IDENTICAL. However, the bud was killer and I can definitely tell that this og will be killer, too. I'm just wondering what the buds will look like when they fill out, since it has so many branches so close together.

What about the taco leaf? Anyone ever experience that? Figure out what it was? I'm thinking that when it entered flower, the pH swing (possibly influenced by switching light spectrums) took my pH low, locking out nutrients needing higher pH's like calcium and magnesium. I noticed some slightly browning leaf edges (perimeter of leafs, not just the tip like from overfeeding) which looks like calcium deficiency from what I've read. I think I also said I noticed a magnesium deficiency with the yellowing leaf margins. But I dunno, the tops are not quite as green as I'd like, and it looks very similar to what happened my first run just not as bad.

If anyone has had the leaf taco thing, feel free to stop my stoned rambling