gottagrow69
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i cant for like another 4 hours til i get to my computer let me try though
Super Cropping
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gottagrow69
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ok got to a computer gonna pst it in a minute
gottagrow69
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ok here it is the split in the stem its not huge but you can see through it is this gonna kill my plant should i just top it cause i did it at the top of my plant
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gottagrow69
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alright thanks so ill put something to keep i down
gottagrow69
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also doing this will this make my plants yield more.
Super cropping works I have done it. But it does slow growth some. I went from super cropping to just letting my plants veg for 2 months instead of 1 and there is no need to super crop now.
Also there is no "tube" inside the plant. The imporant part is the wood around the outside of the stick. That is where the plant gets water and food not the air hole in the middle of the plant that does nothing. What you are doing is busting up the blood veins of the plant so it has to grow new ones so instead of having say 100 blood veins it now has 150 veins in the part where you squeeze it.
its up to you if you want to supercrop or just let your plant veg longer. I chose veg longer but supercropping works fine too.
Also there is no "tube" inside the plant. The imporant part is the wood around the outside of the stick. That is where the plant gets water and food not the air hole in the middle of the plant that does nothing. What you are doing is busting up the blood veins of the plant so it has to grow new ones so instead of having say 100 blood veins it now has 150 veins in the part where you squeeze it.
its up to you if you want to supercrop or just let your plant veg longer. I chose veg longer but supercropping works fine too.
genfranco
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It all depends on your situation, Space, strains...
But i dont think you could turn a 20 inch branch or main stick if you didnt top or fim or anything and make as many tops as if you bend it and let it grow up vertically... clearly your not understanding the technique...
And im no scientist that can tell you how the plant sucks the shit up... But what i can tell you is that the Inner "tube" is full of juices and my mandala strain has far larger tubes...and grows far larger branches...a nd far larger buds... because those tubes inside are HUGE... that is also the same spot that you supposedly dont want air to get in when you clone... Im guessing its an important part of the plant.
just as a refrence point:
so you think that just letting them veg longer would have turned those two tops into 8 that i can top and fim and turn into 16? and yes eventually on the lower shoots of the plant... not at the top....but what .. a 5 foot plant?
Yep.
Right again, you are no scientist. I won't school you I'll just tell you to go look up xylem and phloem. Then you can come back here and say, "Oh that's how that works. Thanks for correcting me, boy was that silly of me to say."
No, of course not. I'm saying you can super crop OR veg longer and get the same total amount per plant. If you super crop AND veg longer you'll get even more.
Basically I'm saying if you are lazy, like me, you can just let your plant veg longer and you don't have to fuck with super cropping. What I do is just veg sooner when I still have plenty of pot.
I'm no expert but I do pretty well...
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genfranco
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well if your gonna veg longer why not put a bend in there to make more tops... this is all about making more tops... like you said ..you get even more... its the whole point.
Supercropping your able to design your canopy and also control the height when using different strains... There are loads of benefits in causing a little pain to those parts of the plant... even if you dont bend..the buds end up bigger... Please... this thread is for supercropping..
go make your own thread about vegging longer.
Oh, I do top. I always top. But that's topping, not supercropping. As you can see all my plants have multiple tops. I tried it each way and you get way more pot, smaller colas but more pot over all.well if your gonna veg longer why not put a bend in there to make more tops... this is all about making more tops... like you said ..you get even more... its the whole point.
Supercropping your able to design your canopy and also control the height when using different strains... There are loads of benefits in causing a little pain to those parts of the plant... even if you dont bend..the buds end up bigger... Please... this thread is for supercropping..
go make your own thread about vegging longer.
Edit: And look at your plants bro, they are like 12 inches tall, mine are 4 FEET tall and all of that is bud. Your plants are beautiful but dude, look at mine...
genfranco
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no topping is when you cut the top of the plant in order to make the side shoots become there own branches.
this is not cutting... this is laying the branch on its side and have those little shoots turn into plants.. The pinching i spoke about on there is to reflect the benefits of doing this. Pinch on the bottom of those small colas of yours...they might get fatter.
Yeah, I know. I know ALL about it. I've done it. What I'm saying is you don't HAVE to super crop and I prefer not to. I still say super cropping works, I still say it's great, I just don't like to do it because I've found I don't NEED to and just letting my plants veg longer does more for them.
Nothing wrong with super cropping, just giving alternatives.
genfranco
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dude its all good... Its when you say does more for them that you loose me at.... how can you argue that more tops is not better? I mean if your outdoors an even then it would be better... but what im saying is, if you were outdoors and let them get as big as they can through the season... mind you its like 8 months long.... yeah your gonna have good results.. shit your gonna have great results.. I love topping/fimming...i use it on all my plants.. but for the same principle... more tops....
In an indoor situation you have variables too... like the light for example....
If you are flowering with anything under a 600 watt hps your gonna get really good growth in the top 12-15 inches... then mediocre to shitty growth below from that.....sure you can harvest in two goes like i did in my last grow... but then your adding 2 more weeks to your cylce...
So making a shit load of tops by toping and fimming ... and then supercropping bitches that are like 20 inches tall all the way down to a 6 inch bush... then letting them veg so the side shoots grow up (making more tops) leaving you with a plant by the time you flower and shit that is possibly 35 inches high with a shit load of tops... I dont know man... I just dont think your thinking this right. But watever...
Im not telling sitting here telling you that you HAVE to supercrop... Im just letting you know about this technique and why its benificial.
If you have space constrictions..light constrictions....different strain hieghts and shit... and you want more tops... you cant argue that supercropping wont give you it.
I dont know .. is this only sounding stupid to me right now... Im high as hell but i sure dont understand how you say that just letting a plant veg longer is better.... Dont you top to get more tops?... why not just let her veg longer... topping will put you back at least a week...but the benifits are great.... well this is kinda the same lines... how about that plant that is on page 2?... shows you how many tops you can have on a small plant...
Yeah, I didn't say I always top, that I always top. The long growth is only part of it.
Letting veg longer isn't better, it's just an alternative. It is better for me, personally, because I found when I get to the level of super cropping then I'm loving the plant to death. For me, leaving the plant alone and just letting it grow, while doing the least possible, is my goal because I'm lazy and I want to build a system that lets me grow crazy good pot without all the work.
So my observation is I got way more pot from just letting the plants veg for a full 2 months instead of 3 or 4 weeks. Ergo vegging is more effective than super cropping alone. For me.
Now I could have gotten even more pot if I had super cropped but it would have increased grow time by two weeks and would have required work on my part.
offgridgrower
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hey newbie, your 4' plants dont look all that special, you took that low angle shot to make them look tall, but i can see all the weak lower growth that you will spend needless time on come harvest, 4' plant with lower buds that will weigh less than a gram when dry. this thread is for supercropping which is better than having a 4' plant that only gets light penetration on the top foot or two at most. really start your own thread!! franco's shorty's look way better than your lanky sticks...
Those two are sativa's so they will have the light to them selves for 4 weeks so that lower growth will fill out. I actually clip the lower branches of the indicas so only the tops are getting light on those but they are like well trimmed bushes and it doesn't take any work, just cut off a few branches.
If you don't want a frank and open discussion of ideas where we treat each other as adults and listen to new ideas then I suggest you take your commie ass back to who-give-a-fuck-istan ya goddamn homo.
offgridgrower
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what new idea? veg longer isnt a new idea
genfranco
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sound like more work than just bending a few branches there sir.... If you bent those branches those lowers that you cut off would get light and with that slow down period you speak of would grow to be strong branches...
give it a try... supercropp then veg longer...
LOL.. i was thinking the same... But lets just try and kill people with kindness .... today is too great of a day to be spoiled by the same ol same ol....LOL....
Yes it is, I just thought of it. Please do not hijack threads. Thank you for your co-operation.