Super Cropping

offgridgrower said:

yep my leaves are healthy, altho they do look weird i think its because i'm using a vertical stadium and the plants are about even with the middle of the bulbs and i think the leaves do this angle thingy because of 2 light sources, as opposed to being horizonal and the leaves being parallel to the light source and the light source being above the plants, ya get what i mean?

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i got ya, thanks...that does make sense...my plants r surrounded also

Its all along the same principle... Making the lower shoots turn into branches.

Anything that makes the branch end up sideways will make those shoots grow up to be there own plant if left long enough... I liked Scrog... I just thought it was too much work trying to get that canopy filled. This to me is the easiest most practible way to achieve that also Less expensive, less time consuming, Total custom canopy. (bend where you want to..1 time.. hell you could write shit. LOL

Good luck peeps... hopefully in the next 4 days i can show you guys some nice growth.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere said:

Can you do this with sog?

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Hey bud... this IS the one plant SOG.... SOG is usually a bunch of little 1 stick plants..all together ... sea of green.... This is a way of being able to achieve a bunch of tops like in SOG but with fewer plants....

Im only legal for 6 plants. SO this technique makes sense for someone like me. If i was doing this illegally (and i wouldnt....not fond of "BuBBa")
I would be doing an aeroponics set up... as many plants as i could fit in those tubes... LIke stinkbuds thread

This method is EXTREMELY effecient for later tranplant outdoors. If i were to put one of these that i have going... say veg it till march..then plant outdoors... Shit... It would be the biggest bush you all ever seen...FDD type shit... maybe ill sacrifice 1 plant and just do that eh?....lol

thats what im bout to do mayng... veg some mothers till the summer. but take a shit load of clones in the mean time......

genfranco said:

I would be doing an aeroponics set up... as many plants as i could fit in those tubes... LIke stinkbuds thread

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What would be the difference with his set up and mine other than mine is soil and his is aero? I count 7 space per tube over the 6 that i have. I think i'm just a little hesitant to go hydro as soil has been a bit more forgiving...

the aeroponics is what is different, and trust me his setup is freaking foolproof!! imo its the overhead in soil that makes it a pain, pots, soil, watering, cleaning up with aero your main point of failure is a power failure, so you save and get a good UPS, then your set!! im saving up to convert my soil stadium to aero so i can stop the watering and the potting! you should really give it a shot you wont be disappointed.

Aren't you constantly batteling ppm and ph levels in hydro and having to weekly change the res? Don't you have to clean out each tube as the plants get harvested? You have to have an air pump to oxygenate the water, a water pump to push the water, and soil is just there. If taking a shop vac and sweeping up the spilt soil from the transplant is all i have to worry about then how would hydro be more effiencient? Not being a smart ass just needing more info to tip the scales....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere said:

Aren't you constantly batteling ppm and ph levels in hydro and having to weekly change the res? Don't you have to clean out each tube as the plants get harvested? You have to have an air pump to oxygenate the water, a water pump to push the water, and soil is just there. If taking a shop vac and sweeping up the spilt soil from the transplant is all i have to worry about then how would hydro be more effiencient? Not being a smart ass just needing more info to tip the scales....

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Its mostly about the control you have with the plant... Aeroponics..besides giving th eplants a shit load of oxygen... is nice because all of th enutrients come from you... in soil .. well like you said it has a bigger buffer... but it seems that the plants like the aero... the speed in which these plants grow is amazing in hydro. I do feel that a shopvac when you transplant is all you need lol... I love my soil... I didnt like having to lug around ro water from the store all the time... plus the temps..OMG.. in soil growing you only have to worry about ambient temp... in hydro... now you have to worry aboutt he water temp... goes above 72 in water and it starts growing things.... h202 is your friend in hydro!

I went to Lowes the other day and saw an RO systen for about $147, as well as having a water line that crosses above the ceiling of my grow room. The PVC sleeves are 100" long and $28 a piece, almost the excact same as 4 of the window boxes. I have already purchased the water pump for the cloner and picked another one on clearence from Lowes as a back up, so I have 2 pumps. i also picked up an air pump that has 2 outlets incase I decided to go aero I would have the basics all i would need to pick up are the sleeves and caps as well as some tubing. But like you said it seems like there are to many variables with hydro and I'm pretty busy with work and a family. I can water or feed the the plants every other day in soil and just peek in on them when i get worried they are drying out. I feel like hydro will keep me in the grow room worring if I have my mixture right and my ph isn't out of range and my water temps aren't to high for proper oxygen levels and to keep from getting root rot. I guess if I would have started with hydro someone might have as much trouble convincing me that soil is the way to go.....

lets get back on track.... You can do suppercropping with both soil and hydro/aero

So post some pics or questions about the subject at hand.... Not trying to be rude ..but there are plenty of threads to discuss hydro.

Sorry just posted the question to the masses in the indoor grow section. I guess i was under a different impression of what supercroping was. I read a thread last year that was talking about it like you have but it didn't say anything about bending the plant. It just said the pinching of the stem will cause it to buldge and will increase the size of any bud on the branch up from that pinch. That's where my origional question came from. I was asking if you pinch the main stem just below the largest cluster of tight nodes in a straight up grow such as sog would it increase the size of your tops? is that more on track? Sorry about the drifting....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere said:

Sorry just posted the question to the masses in the indoor grow section. I guess i was under a different impression of what supercroping was. I read a thread last year that was talking about it like you have but it didn't say anything about bending the plant. It just said the pinching of the stem will cause it to buldge and will increase the size of any bud on the branch up from that pinch. That's where my origional question came from. I was asking if you pinch the main stem just below the largest cluster of tight nodes in a straight up grow such as sog would it increase the size of your tops? is that more on track? Sorry about the drifting....

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yes it does the same effect in that sense... Due to the damage that is created at the pinch.. the plant has to grow a little thicker there... giving a larger channel of fluid intake that the plant can pass from that point.. This way the plant recieves larger amount of nutrient fill which in tern makes the buds grow fatter... It does work... I have seen people do it at different times during the grow. I liek to to all my messing with the lady durng vegging... although some older fellows i know say you do it later int he flowering as well.... especially if you dont bend.

Hope this helps... only one way to really find out though... do it to one of your tops right before flowering... then to another at week 1 ..another at week 2 .. or 4 or 5 or 6... you know... I think ill do that in this thread for you guys ... I guess ill mark them with zip ties.....

Well see at the time of flowering eh.... I got a few t think about it... shouldnt hurt... I think i have 7 tops to do this experiment...

Anyone count how many you see on those pictures??

+rep for whoever is right....lol...

So do you just pinch it and it bends over, or do you give it a little twist? I want to try this, so I may as well get it right. You said you can do it during veg or flower either one?

misshestermoffitt said:

So do you just pinch it and it bends over, or do you give it a little twist? I want to try this, so I may as well get it right. You said you can do it during veg or flower either one?

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hello lady... I would suggest reading the thread.. it covers loads that need to be known. Including a warning by a guy about it turning it hermie... there are people that do it during flowering.. especially just pinching for growth.... But yeah pinch and slowly position where you want it to go... i repeat slowly.. and you might want to keep the pinching fingers on there pinching some more as you bend.. kinda being gentle... you know.

Well slowly but surely they are doing what they need to do....

..PS wont see a big diference taking picture every 2 days..lol... I guess...well you tell me!

Well, I was going to read through the thread, but sometimes when you do that you read stuff where people aren't all the way correct and you seem to know your shit about it, so I thought I'd just cut through the crap and ask.

That first pic to me looks a little twisted, so basically you are bending them into the position you want them in making sure to crack the stem gently as you do.

I thought this method might be good this summer, for stealth growing, keep it low.

Is this what you're trying to do by super cropping. create more upper bud sites? I have 6 very small plants. Thanks to you, I know I can do it with just 1 or 2 next grow.

misshestermoffitt said:

Well, I was going to read through the thread, but sometimes when you do that you read stuff where people aren't all the way correct and you seem to know your shit about it, so I thought I'd just cut through the crap and ask.

That first pic to me looks a little twisted, so basically you are bending them into the position you want them in making sure to crack the stem gently as you do.

I thought this method might be good this summer, for stealth growing, keep it low.

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Go for it... just post the pics here lady!

HomeGrownHairy said:

Is this what you're trying to do by super cropping. create more upper bud sites?

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looking good there

i have a plant i super cropped and the top half of the branch is now fatter than the bottom half of the knot lol