super lemon haze at last

heres some more recent pics theyve woke up & decided to grow cant make up my mind if i want to veg 3 weeks or let them go 4 im afraid if i veg 4 i wont harvest by x-mas but on the other hand an extra week could pay off in yield

looking good.

hey dez good to have you drop in im somewhat happier with my growth rate & if it keeps i might turn the light 12/12 this wednesday

I forget, what light are you vegging under?

im vegging under a 1000w hps i upgraded from 600w hps about 2 weeks ago im growing 9 plants in 3x3 tub in rockwool blocks & slab i also switched to gh-floranova 2-part nutes & also switched feeding schedule from drain to waste to recirculating program flooding every morning 2 hrs after lights on all 28 of my clones took & i removed the dome this morning theyre going to a friends grow my whitewidow-x-bigbud seeds are on the way from attitude im gonna expand 1 wall of growroom to accomodate 36x44 tray to go with the 1000w upgrade hoping to acheive 1 lb. harvests

I ask because I have been using CFL for veg since I started in Feb of this year. I used CFL for flower for the first grow too but then switched to the 400W HPS. I recently purchased a high output T5 fixture that I have over my seedlings and wanted to use for rooting clones but want something different for veggin plants after they've rooted and stuff.

I checked into LED lighting but I'm not sure it's the way to go yet. You still have to spend too much up front in order to get something worthwhile. I want to get a MH light for veg but haven't decided on size because my veg room is smaller than the flower room and I don't really want my elec bill to go up much more.

Here's the options I've been considering:
1. Get another 400 HPS setup but with a conversion bulb and use it as a MH until the vegging plants are ready to flower. Then install that light in the flower room along with the 400 I already have and run 800W HPS. Then I could use the entire flower room (3'X4'). The problem is it will double the amount of power used during flower and will make the bill go up about $60/month while I'm vegging with it.
2. Get a 250 MH setup and hang it in the veg room to use once the babies are ready for it and to veg the clones after they've rooted. Keep the flower room downsized to the 2.5'X3' and continue to use just the 400 HPS that I've already got in there.
3. Get a 250 HPS and a conversion bulb to use as a MH for veg and install it in the flower room with the 400 when I start to flower the plants and go with a 2.5'X4' footprint.

I would just keep everytihng how it is but I'm pretty sure the T5 setup won't light the plants very effectively once they get over a foot tall and I want to grow the seedlings tall enough to clone from. I do have a shitload of CFLs that I guess I could use as side lighting and use the T5 for top lighting though.

What do you kids think?

heres pics of next generation slh babies & pics of my little ''okie'' cloner i have a store bought one but it dont fit in my file shreder cabinet i clone with a cfl the dome & pan are grocery atore items & the ice trays are from dollar tree $1.oo works great

that t5 should take you up to 16'' i use cfl's to veg with cheap & effective if youre gonna pay for another hid light you might as well generate bud with it too i would clone under a 23w cfl. then t5 for light veg then under hps for 1-2 wks veg then turn 12/12 & finish them out thats how i normaly do it the slh grows slower than im used to hence 3 or possibly 4 wks veg opposed to 10-14 days i usualy veg it throws my whole cycle off

Yeah, I considered that too.
I also thought of just buying a 400W conversion bulb and veging in the same room I flower in. The problem is I would have a harvest every 12-14 weeks depending on strain going that way instead of every 8-10 weeks by using two rooms.

Up til now I've used this little fixture I made with a couple CFL's in it (26W) for my cloner. I did use one of those 10" shoplight fixtures once with the same 2 bulbs in it on a 'y' adapter. Then I would just use a bunch of the CFLs for veg once they were rooted. I have a few hundred watts worth in mixed color temps. I think I've got 6 or so of the 26W in 6500K and another 4-6 23w in 2700K plus 2 @ 68W in 2700K. I have a fixture I made that has two sockets in it and has a frame so you can hang the clamp lights from it. It's what I was using before I got the HPS but I cut it down in size so it would fit nicely over my humidity dome for the clones. It would be too small now to light the veg hydro tray very well.

Do you think a 250W MH would be worth the money for veg? My veg room is only 24"X33" and the hydro tray in there is even smaller at 18"X29". I figured I could just place six hydro pots in there touching each other and it would take up 16"X24". Then when I move them to the flower I could space them out a bit and flower all six.

I'm thinking that for cost reasons I don't want to bigger than the 250MH. I'll either get one of those or just get all my 6500K CFLs out again and surround the plants with them somehow with the T5 (4 tube 24") over the tops.

i would run with the cfl's as they dont cost much of an initial investment & they dont generate heat & in the event of bulb failure you just isolate & replace. the conversion bulbs work good i used to do it that way try www.htgsupply.com or www.greners.com for budget priced stuff

I got my current HPS stuff from HTG. I like them a lot, great cust service. I got my other stuff from hardware stores an the local hydro shop. The owner is awesome, super nice, very knowledgeable and likes to help.

I'll probably stick with the T5 and CFLs.

Thanks mang!

So you said you aeriate the nutes first, seems pretty simple. How are the SLHz lookinngs

yeah i try not to get to fancy with my grows thats why i like e&f so well i mix all my nutes & have air pump going all the time i check & adjust ph. last it dont do no good to adjust ph. before you have all of your ingredients in the reservoir as each one could change your ph. these pics. were took last night

horribleherk said:

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what are you planning to do wd the the ice chest tray? mind if i asked i could get some idea here.

Huh...found out someone I know is selling her 600w HPS because she's now got a 1000w. She uses a 600w MH for veg and was pulling really nice stuff with the combo of that and the 600 HPS. She said she'd hook it up for a smoking deal if I want it. Now I'm considering buying that and using it for flower. Then putting a 400 conversion bulb in what I have now and using it for veg.

I don't know...

hey dez youll really like the 600 it outperforms the 400 but no real increase in cost to operate ive used a 400 & a 600 & the increase in yield is good i now use a 1000 w. & as of yet havent formed an opinion on it its still too early to tell but i really liked my 600. hey littleflavio i use the trays to hold rapid-rooter plugs they hold 14 each egg cartons work too but the ice trays dont flex when you pick them up & they hold the plugs tighter too ,heres pics of the slh taken this morning im gonna turn the light 12/12 wednesday im thinking

Damn bro, those really bushed out!!

I think I'm going to start a new thread for meh new grow. I'll let ya know once it's up Herk.

yeah dez keep me posted ive been havin a good time here lately did you wheel & deal for the 600??? i bought my first light from htg the rest i bought used & got good deals on there is a lot of people doing this last may i sold a lot of clones[more than i could keep up with] this spring ill be ready yeah my babies are as wide as they are tall i might veg an extra week im having a hard time making up my mind the next few days will let me know i guess

I haven't done the deal on the 600 yet. I wouldv'e today but my A/C hasn't been working for a while and it was uber hot today so I got it fixed this morning and went to the hydro shop to pick up another 2 foot 4 tube T5 H.O.

While I was there I saw something very interesting, he has two big LED fixtures for sale that are priced less than half of what I can find anything comparable. The smaller one said 575watt on it and I don't remember what the other was. He had a funny disclaimer on the signs he made up for them that said "great for supplemental lighting, no guaranteed results".
I'm still working on the wifey a bit before I go get the 600. I'm trying to get another 400 and double up in the flower room but if I can't convince her I'll get the 600 and replace the 400 with it. She's just not sold on doubling the power usage, you know? The way I see it, I could almost run a 1000 for what it will cost to run 2 @ 400 so I tried that angle too but no luck so far,lol .