Super soil cooking timing from seed

ApexseasOG

ApexseasOG

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Hello everyone, I'm new to organics and I was just wondering, if a recipe for a super soil calls for it to be "cooked" for 30 days (or more); wouldn't you be a able to fill the entire pot with the super soil (instead of 1/3 of super soil and 1/4 base soil), and have the soil "cook" as the plant grows? Hear me out...The super soil would have a base soil that would support the seed to seedling stage and as the amendments become more available they'll be able to be used by the seedling maturing into full veg and be done "cooking" just as the plant start flowering which is usually around 30 days, so they would coincide in that regard. Starting to flower she would have all the amendments she needs. Is that an unnecessary amount of super soil to use? Is that theory even possible? I'm not 100% sure on the science being the "cooking" so i'd thought i'd ask you, the pros; any guidance and/or experiences would be very much appreciated and thank you in advance. Hope everyone has a happy and healthy 4th!
 
ApexseasOG

ApexseasOG

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This is the recipe that would be used:

Base soil:
-1 part FFOF / 2 parts FF light warrior
amendments:
-Organic Perlite
-EWC
-Sea bird guano
-Fish bone meal
-Espoma tomato tone
-Kelp meal
-Mychorrhizae

thanks everyone
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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ApexseasOG said:
This is the recipe that would be used:

Base soil:
-1 part FFOF / 2 parts FF light warrior
amendments:
-Organic Perlite
-EWC
-Sea bird guano
-Fish bone meal
-Espoma tomato tone
-Kelp meal
-Mychorrhizae

thanks everyone
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Use plain FFOF, or mix it with perlite or pumice first. Grow some plants and top dress or use organic bottled nutes, and then turn it into super soil next time.

That's my advice, and basically what I did.
 
ApexseasOG

ApexseasOG

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PadawanWarrior said:
Anytime man.
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I’ve had that mix in a large Tupperware tub sealed out back in an open shed for about a week now. Removed the lid today to add a bit more water and to mix it some more. For my first organic grow I’ll go with your advice. I have some leftover FFOF so I’ll add perlite and start like that. Maybe top dress with the super soil later on and the after she’s done I’ll reuse the soil and mix it with the super soil for the next grow. Can’t wait to see the difference in appearance, smell and taste going the organic route.
 
mattypacks

mattypacks

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From what I understand about "cooking" SS is its a process of microbes breaking down material in the soil, and through these processes heat is given off, and if the temperature in the root zone is too hot you'll end up with stunted growth at the very least. Its through the microbes breaking down material that makes what your plant needs available to use. Some amendments break down faster than others, but thats why SS gets better with time!

Last year was my first time growing outdoors and also my first attempt at using SS, I filled the entire pot with SS and planted right in. I didnt really see a lot of growth for the first few weeks (which is probably because the root zone temp was too hot), but ended up with nice big and healthy plants regardless. This year I went with a modified version of Subcools recipe and cooked for 30 days, plants are as big now as they were last year when they went into flower, but I popped them 7-8 weeks earlier this season. I start my seeds in solo cups filled with pure coco, and move onto 3gal pots with a mix of roots organic and coco before they got transplanted into the big pots outside which were filled 50% SS, 30% roots organic, 10% coco and 10% mulch on top. I was just being careful to buffer how much nutes the plants got at different stages of early growth and dont introduce them to anything but water and coco for the first two-three weeks. I have no idea if this was the most effective way, if there even is a most effective way.

I had some extra SS in a 30 something gal garbage can, decided to use it to transplant a few plants into bigger pots but when I got to the bottom it stunk rotten which means it went anaerobic (the bad microbes). So just keep mixing the bin up and give it a smell check here and there.

So I guess the best advice I could give ya is just to experiment and learn different things, what works for you and what doesn't. Its all a learning process you make mistakes and get better every time, thats the name of the game man!
 
ApexseasOG

ApexseasOG

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mattypacks said:
From what I understand about "cooking" SS is its a process of microbes breaking down material in the soil, and through these processes heat is given off, and if the temperature in the root zone is too hot you'll end up with stunted growth at the very least. Its through the microbes breaking down material that makes what your plant needs available to use. Some amendments break down faster than others, but thats why SS gets better with time!

Last year was my first time growing outdoors and also my first attempt at using SS, I filled the entire pot with SS and planted right in. I didnt really see a lot of growth for the first few weeks (which is probably because the root zone temp was too hot), but ended up with nice big and healthy plants regardless. This year I went with a modified version of Subcools recipe and cooked for 30 days, plants are as big now as they were last year when they went into flower, but I popped them 7-8 weeks earlier this season. I start my seeds in solo cups filled with pure coco, and move onto 3gal pots with a mix of roots organic and coco before they got transplanted into the big pots outside which were filled 50% SS, 30% roots organic, 10% coco and 10% mulch on top. I was just being careful to buffer how much nutes the plants got at different stages of early growth and dont introduce them to anything but water and coco for the first two-three weeks. I have no idea if this was the most effective way, if there even is a most effective way.

I had some extra SS in a 30 something gal garbage can, decided to use it to transplant a few plants into bigger pots but when I got to the bottom it stunk rotten which means it went anaerobic (the bad microbes). So just keep mixing the bin up and give it a smell check here and there.

So I guess the best advice I could give ya is just to experiment and learn different things, what works for you and what doesn't. Its all a learning process you make mistakes and get better every time, thats the name of the game man!
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Great post thank you! That’s a great wealth of information. It’s totally a big learning curve but I’m happy and willing to learn whilst being patient. If it’s one thing I’ve learned is that, with cannabis specially, we have to be patient to get the best bud. I’m trying to read as much as I can while I wait for the SS to cook then I’ll start off as mentioned above; maybe instead of FFOF, I’ll go with 2:1 FF light warrior and FFOF with added perlite. As the grow would be an auto, I won’t be transplanting; just straight into her 3 gal home filled 3/4 with the FF light warrior mix and the bottom 1/3 with the cooked SS once it’s ready.
 
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