SuperSoil vs Organic Bottled Nutes

Beemo

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Yeah, ways that aren't true organic.
just because you force feed the medium with the same materials, doesnt mean its not organic....

oh wait... the bottles have preservatives... blah blah blah....
hmm the same juice bottles thats organic at the store has the same shit.... so is the juice still organic??
 

Yodaweed

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I use great white, and if you are going to tell me that because I use dyna gro, I am killing those, I would be happy to take a pic next transplant to show you that is not the case.
Salt based fertilizers kill microbes PERIOD. do not argue that because your argument would be wrong 100% it is a proven fact. The salt dries out the root system and also contaminates it with salt, that's why you need to flush, you do realize we all started with those salt based fertilizers and don't use them anymore right?
 

Yodaweed

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just because you force feed the medium with the same materials, doesnt mean its not organic....

oh wait... the bottles have preservatives... blah blah blah....
hmm the same juice bottles thats organic at the store has the same shit.... so is the juice still organic??
I don't waste time with bottled anything, I can make all that stuff myself and it's higher quality and full of preservatives. You just don't understand how to do organic farming do you, we don't all want to take the easy way out and just pour premade salt based crap on our plants, some of us don't mind taking the time and doing it the hard way.
 

Beemo

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Salt based fertilizers kill microbes PERIOD. do not argue that because your argument would be wrong 100% it is a proven fact. The salt dries out the root system and also contaminates it with salt, that's why you need to flush, you do realize we all started with those salt based fertilizers and don't use them anymore right?
here's your salt based OMRI certified fertilizer.
botanicare organicare
 

chuck estevez

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Salt based fertilizers kill microbes PERIOD. do not argue that because your argument would be wrong 100% it is a proven fact. The salt dries out the root system and also contaminates it with salt, that's why you need to flush, you do realize we all started with those salt based fertilizers and don't use them anymore right?
you are wrong, it may not provide it with the optimal place to grow, but if you don't overfeed, you don't kill it, have a salt build up or a need to flush. Ill take a pic tonight when I do a transplant.
 

Yodaweed

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you really are clueless...
Good try but when you learn that almost all the chelating is done with the same process for fertilizers (EDTA) and that processes uses straight up chemicals you might change your tune.
 

chuck estevez

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Good try but when you learn that almost all the chelating is done with the same process for fertilizers (EDTA) and that processes uses straight up chemicals you might change your tune.
ill post this again, just for you
In nature[edit]
Numerous biomolecules exhibit the ability to dissolve certain metal cations. Thus, proteins, polysaccharides, and polynucleic acids are excellent polydentate ligands for many metal ions. Organic compounds such as the amino acids glutamic acid and histidine, organic diacids such as malate, and polypeptides such as phytochelatin are also typical chelators. In addition to these adventitious chelators, several biomolecules are specifically produced to bind certain metals (see next section).[5][6][7][8]
 

Yodaweed

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ill post this again, just for you
In nature[edit]
Numerous biomolecules exhibit the ability to dissolve certain metal cations. Thus, proteins, polysaccharides, and polynucleic acids are excellent polydentate ligands for many metal ions. Organic compounds such as the amino acids glutamic acid and histidine, organic diacids such as malate, and polypeptides such as phytochelatin are also typical chelators. In addition to these adventitious chelators, several biomolecules are specifically produced to bind certain metals (see next section).[5][6][7][8]
Bottled nutrients aren't made in nature holy shit how stupid are you, they make them in a fucking lab using EDTA techniques , LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH.
 

chuck estevez

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Bottled nutrients aren't made in nature holy shit how stupid are you, they make them in a fucking lab using EDTA techniques , LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH.
I am showing YOU, that even in your ORGANIC SOIL, YOU have created natural CHELATES, YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND what your arguing, so STFU.
 

Yodaweed

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I am showing YOU, that even in your ORGANIC SOIL, YOU have created natural CHELATES, YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND what your arguing, so STFU.
It's completely different when nutrients break down naturally than when they are made in a freaking lab using EDTA cheliation, why don't you google zinc EDTA and learn about how they make it, it's made in a fucking lab in china.
 

chuck estevez

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Not to mention that a no-till operation is the least expensive to operate long term.

But some folks like to mess around with bottles and that's fine, too. I was initially attracted to hydro for the same reason. I understand the lure of the bottles.
I certainly am not arguing the goodness of organic growing, just trying to stop the bullshit high horse crap that comes with it.
 

chuck estevez

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It's completely different when nutrients break down naturally than when they are made in a freaking lab using EDTA cheliation, why don't you google zinc EDTA and learn about how they make it, it's made in a fucking lab in china.
who cares, it all does the SAME thing, do you even understand what it does?
 
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