Sustainable Organics Garden

calliandra said:

Ohwow!
While at first I was very unsure whether what has been researched regarding the hydrangea's colors would be at all applicable to cannabis, this does support the supposition that the mechanisms at work could becommon to all anthocyanides.
In reading around, I saw that it is often recommended to raise the soil acidity by mulching the hydrangeas with hi-N stuff (grass clippings, coffee grounds,...). Yes, it's not the pH in itself, but we have all the minerals we'll ever need in the soil, all we need are the right microbes to mine them out.
So if initiating composting directly next to the plant will make hydrangeas go red, and @Rasta Roy 's microherd is diverse and healthy, we may see those pink trich's in his big-ass pot garden soon eh

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Great post @calliandra

So nice to have some help on this mystery

So the right microbes flourish at the right ph and help a lot?

Been finding pink trichs on all strains now so thinking its def environment, and was thinking it was UV dependent or vapour pressure doing it, but now I think its ph fluctuating at the end of the cycle just right / presence of blue/uv light / right temps

And I still think vapour pressure might playa role

My girls plants are getting them too
It might be the super natural worm castings too and no teas
Since we went with more plain water and less tea (mind you, few timely foliars now tho) the anthocyanins have taken off

I know a brotha who is gonna find this very interesting

@DonBrennon

DonTesla said:

Great post @calliandra

So nice to have some help on this mystery

So the right microbes flourish at the right ph and help a lot?

Been finding pink trichs on all strains now so thinking its def environment, and was thinking it was UV dependent or vapour pressure doing it, but now I think its ph fluctuating at the end of the cycle just right / presence of blue/uv light / right temps

And I still think vapour pressure might playa role

My girls plants are getting them too
It might be the super natural worm castings too and no teas
Since we went with more plain water and less tea (mind you, few timely foliars now tho) the anthocyanins have taken off

I know a brotha who is gonna find this very interesting

@DonBrennon

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Interesting stuff indeed, I WILL be getting those elusive pink trich's, LOL

Got the extra prints in the post today @DonTesla, thanks for the unexpected suprise bro, they'll go up in the grow room for inspirarion

DonBrennon said:

Interesting stuff indeed, I WILL be getting those elusive pink trich's, LOL

Got the extra prints in the post today @DonTesla, thanks for the unexpected suprise bro, they'll go up in the grow room for inspirarion

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ah Great to hear your packages arrived safely brother!

Gnome found a great article on the Anthocyanin and i gotta find it!

So beneficial are the pink and blue trichglands

one love brother! Stay inspired

DonTesla said:

Great post @calliandra

So nice to have some help on this mystery

So the right microbes flourish at the right ph and help a lot?

Been finding pink trichs on all strains now so thinking its def environment, and was thinking it was UV dependent or vapour pressure doing it, but now I think its ph fluctuating at the end of the cycle just right / presence of blue/uv light / right temps

And I still think vapour pressure might playa role

My girls plants are getting them too
It might be the super natural worm castings too and no teas
Since we went with more plain water and less tea (mind you, few timely foliars now tho) the anthocyanins have taken off

I know a brotha who is gonna find this very interesting

@DonBrennon

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Hmmmm... it's just fascinating!
What I've seen of nature, it's likely to be a combination of factors

Different sets of microorganisms flourish under different conditions. While we know sooooo little about these critters in detail, we do know that plants generally do best with aerobic ones.
But even staying aerobic, we have different stages of decomposition, the more bacterial in the beginning, and the more fungal when things settle down.
So if the hydrangea guys are mulching grass clippings and coffee grounds to make the soil more acidic, they are actually promoting bacterial activity too, the type of bacteria who do a good job in that earlier stage.
I'm right in the middle of moving house so my mind is kind of not here, so I can only hope that makes sense

Ah I so would like to have a grow going right now to experiment with that during flower! Lately I understand things best when I can sit and watch and ponder and feel into them as they happen (/or not LOL)

Totally agree with you about it likely being a synergistic type of combo effect

most amplifiers in nature have keys to unlock doors that reveal keys that unlock bigger doors

for example, consuming pepper allows us to absorb more turmeric which has curcumin, and as we ingest that, we can absorb more antioxidants, and when we do that…. and so on..

so i believe you are right .. the more i study plants and humans, the more synergy plays a role.

nicely said especially considering you are moving soon or now.

Where ya goin!?

pulled her out some a few hours ago. Filling just under 50cm x 50cm surface area.

DonTesla said:

Totally agree with you about it likely being a synergistic type of combo effect

most amplifiers in nature have keys to unlock doors that reveal keys that unlock bigger doors

for example, consuming pepper allows us to absorb more turmeric which has curcumin, and as we ingest that, we can absorb more antioxidants, and when we do that…. and so on..

so i believe you are right .. the more i study plants and humans, the more synergy plays a role.

nicely said especially considering you are moving soon or now.

Where ya goin!?

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Practically just across the street But lots to rethink on how I want to use our space
Love your keys analogy too, now I can think on it all day, as I use keys here and there alll the time haha
Talk more soon!

iHearAll said:

pulled her out some a few hours ago. Filling just under 50cm x 50cm surface area.
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She's so pointedly prim and proper! I'm going to name her GoodyTwoShoes, if you don't mind?

Wanted to link ya'll a couple things which might be of interest to read...
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/the-secrets-of-colorful-cannabis-revealed-heres-why-some-strains
http://hightimes.com/grow/cannabis-anthocyanins-a-closer-look-at-the-color-purple-in-cannabis/
http://herb.co/2016/08/25/bud-colors/

My guess is that the anthocyanins are for frost protection.


"Scientists have long known that xanthophylls and carotenoids play an important part in photosynthesis by helping to capture light energy, but the benefit of anthocyanins is not well understood. It might seem more logical for plants to remove all the carbohydrates they possibly can from the leaf before making it fall off. If this were the case, we wouldn’t have the red and purple pigments that we see in sugar maple, black gum, burning bush, or sweet gum. Carbohydrates are needed to manufacture these pigments. Some entomologists believe that the evolutionary reason that plants expend energy to produce fall color is to warn pests. A plant that is healthy is able to produce lots of carbohydrates, and therefore more anthocyanin. This may cause certain insect pests laying eggs in the fall to seek another host plant for their offspring that is weaker and drab by comparison. Some scientists believe that anthocyanins may act as a sunscreen to inhibit the destruction of the chlorophyll, help to prevent frost injury to leaf tissues, or limit water loss during dry spells in autumn."

http://www.usna.usda.gov/PhotoGallery/FallFoliage/ScienceFallColor.html

NaturalFarmer said:

My guess is that the anthocyanins are for frost protection.


"Scientists have long known that xanthophylls and carotenoids play an important part in photosynthesis by helping to capture light energy, but the benefit of anthocyanins is not well understood. It might seem more logical for plants to remove all the carbohydrates they possibly can from the leaf before making it fall off. If this were the case, we wouldn’t have the red and purple pigments that we see in sugar maple, black gum, burning bush, or sweet gum. Carbohydrates are needed to manufacture these pigments. Some entomologists believe that the evolutionary reason that plants expend energy to produce fall color is to warn pests. A plant that is healthy is able to produce lots of carbohydrates, and therefore more anthocyanin. This may cause certain insect pests laying eggs in the fall to seek another host plant for their offspring that is weaker and drab by comparison. Some scientists believe that anthocyanins may act as a sunscreen to inhibit the destruction of the chlorophyll, help to prevent frost injury to leaf tissues, or limit water loss during dry spells in autumn."

http://www.usna.usda.gov/PhotoGallery/FallFoliage/ScienceFallColor.html

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Just had a seed catalogue through the door and was thinking the same thing while looking at the swede and turnips. It's always the part which grows above the ground that gets the purple coloration, the protected part underground remains yellow.

so ill note temperatures weekly during flowering starting next week. i guess run off pH should be noted as well. the viper city og 13# (goody-two-shewz) has greying tendencies. maybe lavender is a better deacription. grizzly purple auto will likely go purple. my local cold temps will be noticable later in January since im in a such a "dank" (warm and muggy) environment. mm mm.

i pulled my cucumbers because they were rained on for three days in a row leaving them PMd and sad. wewwps

querkle male cutting in water for a few weeks. going to chuck on the viper city og13 for no reason.



"blue dream"

Dedoverde Haze

that one bitch

EM Dagg

Am Sour


tall unsexxd querkle

VCOG13 madre
younger seedlings. orig amnesia, peach puree, am sour, bubble bomb, kookies
close up on that kookies. ew. i just propped her up. shes not normally face sideways lol. but she looks malfunctioned. ill chuck some pollen on her, eventually, to give that lineage some stability

vcog13

auto pounder

grizzly purple auto, stem shaping

marklar marklar from marklar, now marklar can marklar marklar.

pounder and grizzley

ok, not all that big, really

day 33 in flower
This plant is being fed AACT amended only with fermented fruit extracts, rice wash, and epsom salts. It is drinking a gallon ever 4 days. The autos (pictured above and not in this comment) are in plastic 3 gallon tubs and are receiving much less volume and less frequently but of the same tea blend. Everyone will get a top dress of bokashi in the next 24-36 hours.
New veg box paint job too.