CriticalCheeze
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out of how many?
Swami Seeds
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bobdagrowah
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8. Not blaming his genetics, he's a good guy but so far only got 1
jimihendrix1
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I planted 20, and 17 came up within 4 days.. 1 was weak, so I killed it.
My buddy planted 10, and all came up.
My buddy planted 10, and all came up.
kristoffolese
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The nl5 x nh is one of the giants, as far as potency is concerned. Not for nubes, smoke or grow- wise. The fire phenos have that crazy stretch. We used to flower at 1-2 weeks old & sog her. Was the only way to keep her in the tents we used
But best results come from letting her sexually mature before flipping to flower. I havr learned... painstakingly lol... that the "modern" Nl5 x haze is def NOT the same thing. I will admit to a more homogeneous, consistent plant & finished product, excellent vigor and yield... but Im sorry, the OLD (80's-early/mid 90's) Nl5 x nh was special, different. I am very early in the grow, but what Im seeing so far- the oldschool nl5xnh, unique incensey/spice/earthy weed/skunk smell its ALREADY putting off, combined with research Iv done & the convo's Ive had with Gas (from Swami's Organic Seeds) & others on this forum (shout out to jhendrix 
), has convinced me that this is def what Iv been looking for. Will keep updating... but to be honest, this runs a "rush job". I popped a few seeds, when I was already a few, 3-4 weeks into veg. But I had a couple square feet to spare, figured Id pop 3, hope for 1 good female. Culled a mutant a dew days ago... Ive def got 2 dif phenos. 1 is starting to show the classic haze-like, stretch growth. The 2nd is an inch or 2 more squat, developing primary branching/bushing out faster than #1. Im having to flower them much earlier than Id like, so theyre not going to be supermodels by any means. But I'll upload some pics when I can & tell yall how it goes. Fingers crossed! These are a week & a half old from seed.Attachments
yesum
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Well the BOH finally came. 18 of them, I guess Swami has a limited number of seeds for the BOH since everyone is jumping on them. He gave extras of the Guerrero x Panama Red for instance in my last order. Just glad I got them as it took about 3 weeks since I sent the money.
The BOH seeds are small. Is the Thai or Neville's Haze small as well? Wondering where that came from. My Colombian Gold has small seeds, I think it is a trait of a lot of old sativa strains. I wonder what all is in the Nevill's Haze. Colombian Gold, Acapulco Gold, Indian Kerala? Whatever it is they made a mind blower. Never smoked it but too many stories of heads getting twisted on it. Good Thai will do that as well.
Velvet Rush x NL5/Hz is the freebie. Will have to look that one up. I asked for 'kind and trippy' on any freebies. I will only put one seed into my next grow as all the space is taken. Will use that method where you look at the area where the seed attaches to the plant and see if it is sunken it and round. No idea if that is a real thing or someones imagination. hehe
I already have a sativa that has me wondering if I smoked too much off 2 small hits. Colombian Gold '72 from USC. Well, one of the plants anyways. It figures I did not get a clone off it, as it was a runt and produced only one bud for the entire 'plant'.
The BOH seeds are small. Is the Thai or Neville's Haze small as well? Wondering where that came from. My Colombian Gold has small seeds, I think it is a trait of a lot of old sativa strains. I wonder what all is in the Nevill's Haze. Colombian Gold, Acapulco Gold, Indian Kerala? Whatever it is they made a mind blower. Never smoked it but too many stories of heads getting twisted on it. Good Thai will do that as well.
Velvet Rush x NL5/Hz is the freebie. Will have to look that one up. I asked for 'kind and trippy' on any freebies. I will only put one seed into my next grow as all the space is taken. Will use that method where you look at the area where the seed attaches to the plant and see if it is sunken it and round. No idea if that is a real thing or someones imagination. hehe
I already have a sativa that has me wondering if I smoked too much off 2 small hits. Colombian Gold '72 from USC. Well, one of the plants anyways. It figures I did not get a clone off it, as it was a runt and produced only one bud for the entire 'plant'.
jimihendrix1
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The seed orders have been slow because its mid harvest, GAS is out of town and left the job of sending out orders to someone else, and they were very slow. It also took 3 weeks to get 1 of my orders, but all is well.
The Velvet Rush is a cross of Thai x Afghani #1 x NL5 x Hz. I also got these as freebies.
The NL5 x Nevils Haze is a combination of
South Indian x Thai x Highland Oaxacan x NL5.
The Velvet Rush is a cross of Thai x Afghani #1 x NL5 x Hz. I also got these as freebies.
The NL5 x Nevils Haze is a combination of
South Indian x Thai x Highland Oaxacan x NL5.
Rufus the 13th
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Hey guys!
Where do Swami Seeds ship out of? Are they in the US?
Where do Swami Seeds ship out of? Are they in the US?
jimihendrix1
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Yes. And they only ship to USA.
Rufus the 13th
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Who da man?
Hendrix be da man!
Seriously, he is one of my favorites! I wish he were alive today...
Being white, I would dressed up as him (and Stevie Ray) on Halloween so many times when I was yound! Now days, I'd, well, idk...
Thank you sir!
Hendrix be da man!
Seriously, he is one of my favorites! I wish he were alive today...
Being white, I would dressed up as him (and Stevie Ray) on Halloween so many times when I was yound! Now days, I'd, well, idk...
Thank you sir!
dopeonarope
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Tried to get some in australia and no joy. Been chasing this dragon for a few years now
John Dieselman
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I am hoping the little bird was correct when it told me of the Road Kill Skunk SWAMI'S putting out early next year...
jimihendrix1
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Yours, and mine both. I have high hopes for this stuff, and if it is as good as the original stuff, Ill be very happy. So far though, the plants are beautiful, and growing vigorously.
I'm speakigng right now about my friends grows they have going, but I supplied the seeds.
I will also start some seeds in the next few weeks, as I get all my equipment together, and am waiting for a Super Silver Haze, and Sour Diesel to finish.
I'm going to start around 20 each of
BOH
NL5/HZ
The ONE x Paki Chitral Kush
50 x BO x RKS
My friends have 8 each of the BOH, and NL5/Hz, along with 15 Hazeman/NDNGuy/Nevils Original LTD Release G13 x Hashplant.
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Mad Hamish
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Lol just sae this... i sent a whole stack bro others got theirs from Florida to Cali to Maine so WEIRD how just one guy didnt get it hey
jimihendrix1
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What ever became of the germ rate on the NL5/Hz you bought ?? My buddy got 18 out of 20 to come up, and 18 out of 18 of the BOH came up. They were started by floating them in a cup for 24 hours, and then into individual 32oz cups, covered with saran wrap with Promix BX. By Monday they were coming up.
Also started were 12 Hazeman 88 G13 x Hashplant. 10 out of 12 came up.
The All of these plants are 2.5 months old in veg, ( 3-4ft+ tall x 1000W Hortilux HPS/5 gallon containers for each 4 x 4, and are ready to be turned back. Veg in 5g Smart Pots. Flower will be in 10G Smart Pots.
All of them are very vigorous, with the NL5/HZ growing the fastest, but the BOH is the best of both killer internode spacing, and good growth and branching pattern.
NL5/HZ is more cat pee, the BOH is more exotic incense sandalwood with a hint of Skunk. BOH Has a few phenos, ( wish I could have started 50 ) but all have very nice node spacing, and vigorous growth. 1 is more Hazy leaning, the Other Afghani/Kandahar/NL5, and the other a combination of both, with strong Sativa look, but thick stout branching, and medium tall, vs Tall, or Short.
The Hazeman/Nevils 88 Ltd Release G13/HP is also very vigorous, and grows like a MoFo for a 100% Stabilized Indica. Large branching pattern, good node spacings, sweeter, more hash/fruit smell, with hint of floral. I think there are discontinued, but I found a place 3 days ago, that had some packs and bought more.
Out of 18 NL5/Hz 9 were female, and are the tallest of the lot. 4 feet. They are also Bent, and trained. There are 3 phenos. Tall, Medium, Medium Short. All are pretty tall though.
Out of 18 BOH 10 were Female.
Out of 10 G13/HP 5 are females.
These will be flowered under 2-3 1000w Gavitas. Just depends on how big the NL5/Hz get. Tey look like they may get really big, like the Mr Nice SSH, but maybe a bit wider node spacing. But similar. Smells nothing alike though except. Pure cat pee.. This stuff REEKS if touched even in veg. Just like old times.
I cant wait to get mine started, and I don't get to see these a lot, as they are 80 miles away, but I gave person the genetics. Weve been on/off partners since the 80s. But hes ramped up 100% for 6 years now, and weve been looking for all the Old Nevil stuff we can find. Really don't care about a lot else, but the BO crosses are icing on the cake. Maybe even better than Nevils stuff. Or as good.
Another buddy closer by also have these going, but only 1 BOH Female, which is really nice, more of the In between Pheno, and also NL5/Hz, and 88 G13/HP, but on a way smaller scale. 1 buddy is in a legal state.
I also have found the original Heirloom NL1 x PNW Hash Plant. See. No Swami..
. But as far as I know is available I USA only.Coastal Seeds has the NL1 x PNW Hashplant
.I plan on finding the best Male, Female possible out of 100 seeds, Breed them.. and backcross the best Male into the Original NL1/HP Mom, and then find the best female out of 50 of those offspring, and breed it back to her daddy. That should produce 50/50 HP/NL1 offspring. Nevil says when he did it all of the plants were killer, but 1 in 4 was Outstanding, and was the Most Potent he ever smoked. Proclaimed it the strongest weed in the world.
Then I'll breed a Swami NL5/HZ Male into the best HP Pheno I can find, out of another 50.
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bobdagrowah
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What ever became of the germ rate on the NL5/Hz you bought ?? My buddy got 18 out of 20 to come up, and 18 out of 18 of the BOH came up. They were started by floating them in a cup for 24 hours, and then into individual 32oz cups, covered with saran wrap with Promix BX. By Monday they were coming up.
Also started were 12 Hazeman 88 G13 x Hashplant. 10 out of 12 came up.
The All of these plants are 2.5 months old in veg, ( 3-4ft+ tall x 1000W Hortilux HPS/5 gallon containers for each 4 x 4, and are ready to be turned back. Veg in 5g Smart Pots. Flower will be in 10G Smart Pots.
All of them are very vigorous, with the NL5/HZ growing the fastest, but the BOH is the best of both killer internode spacing, and good growth and branching pattern.
NL5/HZ is more cat pee, the BOH is more exotic incense sandalwood with a hint of Skunk. BOH Has a few phenos, ( wish I could have started 50 ) but all have very nice node spacing, and vigorous growth. 1 is more Hazy leaning, the Other Afghani/Kandahar/NL5, and the other a combination of both, with strong Sativa look, but thick stout branching, and medium tall, vs Tall, or Short.
The Hazeman/Nevils 88 Ltd Release G13/HP is also very vigorous, and grows like a MoFo for a 100% Stabilized Indica. Large branching pattern, good node spacings, sweeter, more hash/fruit smell, with hint of floral. I think there are discontinued, but I found a place 3 days ago, that had some packs and bought more.
Out of 18 NL5/Hz 9 were female, and are the tallest of the lot. 4 feet. They are also Bent, and trained. There are 3 phenos. Tall, Medium, Medium Short. All are pretty tall though.
Out of 18 BOH 10 were Female.
Out of 10 G13/HP 5 are females.
These will be flowered under 2-3 1000w Gavitas. Just depends on how big the NL5/Hz get. Tey look like they may get really big, like the Mr Nice SSH, but maybe a bit wider node spacing. But similar. Smells nothing alike though except. Pure cat pee.. This stuff REEKS if touched even in veg. Just like old times.
I cant wait to get mine started, and I don't get to see these a lot, as they are 80 miles away, but I gave person the genetics. Weve been on/off partners since the 80s. But hes ramped up 100% for 6 years now, and weve been looking for all the Old Nevil stuff we can find. Really don't care about a lot else, but the BO crosses are icing on the cake. Maybe even better than Nevils stuff. Or as good.
Another buddy closer by also have these going, but only 1 BOH Female, which is really nice, more of the In between Pheno, and also NL5/Hz, and 88 G13/HP, but on a way smaller scale. 1 buddy is in a legal state.
I also have found the original Heirloom NL1 x PNW Hash Plant. See. No Swami..
Coastal Seeds has the NL1 x PNW Hashplant
I plan on finding the best Male, Female possible out of 100 seeds, Breed them.. and backcross the best Male into the Original NL1/HP Mom, and then find the best female out of 50 of those offspring, and breed it back to her daddy. That should produce 50/50 HP/NL1 offspring. Nevil says when he did it all of the plants were killer, but 1 in 4 was Outstanding, and was the Most Potent he ever smoked. Proclaimed it the strongest weed in the world.
Then I'll breed a Swami NL5/HZ Male into the best HP Pheno I can find, out of another 50.
It was used error cause I popped 4 more and they all popped
jimihendrix1
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Much of his genes come from Clackamas COOT, Mr Greengenes, BEL Members, and yes, they ARE the real deal of what they say they are. Some people got mad at Swami because he upped the production, and started making money off of it, of which I could care less what he does. As long as he supplies killer genetics, and they are what they say they are, I don't care what he does.
Anyone giving these genetics away ect ??? Let me know as I will quit buying the Swami stuff, if others have access to it, and I can get it for nothing ???? Im all for that.
Just like some got mad a Hazeman for making money off of the G13 x 88 Hashplant, which were also Nevils original genes, given to Hazeman x NDNGuy.
Also for $50-$60 a pack, Hazeman was basically giving them away anyway, and if he needs to make money off of them, to keep them in his garden, so be it, at least the genes are getting to the public. I'm glad he did sell them as I wouldn't be able to get these genes any other way. I bought 10 packs, and am going to buy some more. I believe they are now discontinued, but some packs are still available. Or will be.
2 friends have the Swami
Blue Orca Haze
NL5/Hz going right now, and all of the plants are looking, and smelling great. 1 guys are about to be put into flower, or they may be already. I haven't spoken to 1 guy in a couple weeks, and plants are probably turned back by no now. The other guys are 3 weeks behind, and hes going to breed his, but took cuttings.
The Blue Orca Haze is a really, really nice looking, and smelling plant so far, and is very stout, medium height, slow growing at first, and then really takes off, but it grows very close internode spacings, with many, many branches.
BOH smells Incense, sandalwood, Frankincense, floral sweet. More high end Thai/Kandahar smell.
The NL5/Haze is very vigorous, and the fastest growing, but wider internode spacings. Very similar to Mr Nice Super Silver Haze, but even More Sativa Leaning. Better smell too, totally different smell than Mr Nice version. REEKS or cat pee, and floral
The G13/HP is also a really nice looking plant, and smells like Hash. Its also a fast growing, vigorous plant, and much bigger than most 100% Indicas. Cant wait to try some NL5HZ x G13/HP.
I'm mainly after the 80s Genes that Nevil had, and the Blue Orca crosses, and others, for me, are just icing on the cake.
I also have some Heirloom NL1 x PNK Hashplant, and is the same genes Nevil had to create his NL1/Hashplant, and Hashplant.
My quest is for a strain I had in the 90s that was a cross of Nevils 88 NL5 x HAZE x NL1 x PNW HP x Skunk.
I can forgo the Skunk in the quest for just the NL5/HZ, and the NL1 x HP. Those were the building blocks of my strain.
Although. Swami will have the IBL 1985 Road Kill Skunk in the Spring.
But some think I'm trying to just sell Swamis stuff, and I'm not. I just know how good these original genes were. Ive been smoking for 50 years, and these are the best genes Ive found in all of my years. YMMV. But if I can find my old stuff, I lost. I will be happy.
Anyone giving these genetics away ect ??? Let me know as I will quit buying the Swami stuff, if others have access to it, and I can get it for nothing ???? Im all for that.
Just like some got mad a Hazeman for making money off of the G13 x 88 Hashplant, which were also Nevils original genes, given to Hazeman x NDNGuy.
Also for $50-$60 a pack, Hazeman was basically giving them away anyway, and if he needs to make money off of them, to keep them in his garden, so be it, at least the genes are getting to the public. I'm glad he did sell them as I wouldn't be able to get these genes any other way. I bought 10 packs, and am going to buy some more. I believe they are now discontinued, but some packs are still available. Or will be.
2 friends have the Swami
Blue Orca Haze
NL5/Hz going right now, and all of the plants are looking, and smelling great. 1 guys are about to be put into flower, or they may be already. I haven't spoken to 1 guy in a couple weeks, and plants are probably turned back by no now. The other guys are 3 weeks behind, and hes going to breed his, but took cuttings.
The Blue Orca Haze is a really, really nice looking, and smelling plant so far, and is very stout, medium height, slow growing at first, and then really takes off, but it grows very close internode spacings, with many, many branches.
BOH smells Incense, sandalwood, Frankincense, floral sweet. More high end Thai/Kandahar smell.
The NL5/Haze is very vigorous, and the fastest growing, but wider internode spacings. Very similar to Mr Nice Super Silver Haze, but even More Sativa Leaning. Better smell too, totally different smell than Mr Nice version. REEKS or cat pee, and floral
The G13/HP is also a really nice looking plant, and smells like Hash. Its also a fast growing, vigorous plant, and much bigger than most 100% Indicas. Cant wait to try some NL5HZ x G13/HP.
I'm mainly after the 80s Genes that Nevil had, and the Blue Orca crosses, and others, for me, are just icing on the cake.
I also have some Heirloom NL1 x PNK Hashplant, and is the same genes Nevil had to create his NL1/Hashplant, and Hashplant.
My quest is for a strain I had in the 90s that was a cross of Nevils 88 NL5 x HAZE x NL1 x PNW HP x Skunk.
I can forgo the Skunk in the quest for just the NL5/HZ, and the NL1 x HP. Those were the building blocks of my strain.
Although. Swami will have the IBL 1985 Road Kill Skunk in the Spring.
But some think I'm trying to just sell Swamis stuff, and I'm not. I just know how good these original genes were. Ive been smoking for 50 years, and these are the best genes Ive found in all of my years. YMMV. But if I can find my old stuff, I lost. I will be happy.
greencropper
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some pics would be nice!What ever became of the germ rate on the NL5/Hz you bought ?? My buddy got 18 out of 20 to come up, and 18 out of 18 of the BOH came up. They were started by floating them in a cup for 24 hours, and then into individual 32oz cups, covered with saran wrap with Promix BX. By Monday they were coming up.
Also started were 12 Hazeman 88 G13 x Hashplant. 10 out of 12 came up.
The All of these plants are 2.5 months old in veg, ( 3-4ft+ tall x 1000W Hortilux HPS/5 gallon containers for each 4 x 4, and are ready to be turned back. Veg in 5g Smart Pots. Flower will be in 10G Smart Pots.
All of them are very vigorous, with the NL5/HZ growing the fastest, but the BOH is the best of both killer internode spacing, and good growth and branching pattern.
NL5/HZ is more cat pee, the BOH is more exotic incense sandalwood with a hint of Skunk. BOH Has a few phenos, ( wish I could have started 50 ) but all have very nice node spacing, and vigorous growth. 1 is more Hazy leaning, the Other Afghani/Kandahar/NL5, and the other a combination of both, with strong Sativa look, but thick stout branching, and medium tall, vs Tall, or Short.
The Hazeman/Nevils 88 Ltd Release G13/HP is also very vigorous, and grows like a MoFo for a 100% Stabilized Indica. Large branching pattern, good node spacings, sweeter, more hash/fruit smell, with hint of floral. I think there are discontinued, but I found a place 3 days ago, that had some packs and bought more.
Out of 18 NL5/Hz 9 were female, and are the tallest of the lot. 4 feet. They are also Bent, and trained. There are 3 phenos. Tall, Medium, Medium Short. All are pretty tall though.
Out of 18 BOH 10 were Female.
Out of 10 G13/HP 5 are females.
These will be flowered under 2-3 1000w Gavitas. Just depends on how big the NL5/Hz get. Tey look like they may get really big, like the Mr Nice SSH, but maybe a bit wider node spacing. But similar. Smells nothing alike though except. Pure cat pee.. This stuff REEKS if touched even in veg. Just like old times.
I cant wait to get mine started, and I don't get to see these a lot, as they are 80 miles away, but I gave person the genetics. Weve been on/off partners since the 80s. But hes ramped up 100% for 6 years now, and weve been looking for all the Old Nevil stuff we can find. Really don't care about a lot else, but the BO crosses are icing on the cake. Maybe even better than Nevils stuff. Or as good.
Another buddy closer by also have these going, but only 1 BOH Female, which is really nice, more of the In between Pheno, and also NL5/Hz, and 88 G13/HP, but on a way smaller scale. 1 buddy is in a legal state.
I also have found the original Heirloom NL1 x PNW Hash Plant. See. No Swami..
Coastal Seeds has the NL1 x PNW Hashplant
I plan on finding the best Male, Female possible out of 100 seeds, Breed them.. and backcross the best Male into the Original NL1/HP Mom, and then find the best female out of 50 of those offspring, and breed it back to her daddy. That should produce 50/50 HP/NL1 offspring. Nevil says when he did it all of the plants were killer, but 1 in 4 was Outstanding, and was the Most Potent he ever smoked. Proclaimed it the strongest weed in the world.
Then I'll breed a Swami NL5/HZ Male into the best HP Pheno I can find, out of another 50.