Sweeteners?

grannybonger said:

brand new idea, Sucanat, buy in at the grocers, got a ton of vitamins too. (artificial sweetener)

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Sucanat sucks.

you will find that the beneficial bacteria is naturally acidic and will constantly lower the overall ph of your setup too. just keep some ph up around and drop some in when need be ill ph my tea bucket today when i go visit. and tell you if mine did the same thing but tbh i wasnt concerned with the ph of that

the smell is what you actually should concern yourself with if it smells dead decaying and is horrible to inhale then make a new bucket of tea

To echo a sentiment from an earlier comment: I come to this forum with the thoughts that Sulfur (found readily and plant-available) from molasses in a water soluble solution does make physiological sense. The plant will utilize nutrients if available - even to the point of toxicity which is why we watch pH. I do believe Sulfur also has physiological enhancements for end product. Sulfur is utilized in metabolism and structure and as noted, is one of those very very specific ions that plants do absorb, so I really like Sulfur as a candidate for some trials. But my real point here is that with the protection of MMJ laws, we can now start to run those trials and we don't need to guess anymore. I suspect we will discover rather quickly how to grow this plant like a pointsettia, or a geranium, or organic tomatoes.



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Main benefit of sweeteners is feeding beneficial organisms in your medium. If your trying to get your bud to taste like berries then your going to be sadly disappointed.
If your running a sterile DWC or hydro set-up with H2o2, it's a waste of money, there are no beneficial organisms in your medium, the H2o2 kills everything. If your spending $30.00 and up for bottled carb products your getting scammed. Molasses is fine. 1-2 tbs per gallon, pre-diluted in a glass of warm water works as feed for beneficial bacterias in soil or hydro.

Fresh compost tea and molasses as a top feed is a great combo. Also Great White or Extreme Gardening's Azos and molasses are a great combo for a super healthy rhyzosphere.

* sweeteners... the new mj gimmick.. lol

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yes, i use molasses and honey es from humboldts organic line start of with the molasses at 5ml per gallon then maybe go up to 10-15 ml a gallon,It feeds your micro life in the soil witch in return feeds your plant by upping your brix level in short

jdmcwestevo said:

idk about yield increase but smell and flavor greatly benefit i add from first week of flower until flush and use botanicare sweet raw it brings out natural aroma and flavor of plant as opposed to adding other flavors like some other brands

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Hey bro am using sweet raw an am trying to figure out how to add molasses to the feed or flush

As others stated, the carbs are not for the plant directly, they're for the beneficial micro organisms in the soil, which in turn feed the plant. If you're growing organically, especially with a nutrient rich soil mix, the sugars will prove to be a helpful addition to the overall growing strategy. I love molasses, but i hate how messy it is. The main reason I love a rich soil mix is to simplify watering. I like to top dress with powdered molasses which is basically dried grains enriched with molasses, then inoculate every so often to ensure the population of good bacteria and fungi remains strong. Within a couple of days from just straight watering, I see growth on the top of the soil which I presume are our little helpers going to work

I've heard that excess sugars in your plants can lead to a harsher cured product. Although I have used small amounts of molasses, usually during flowering. Couldn't say for sure if there was a difference or not but certainly didn't hurt anything.

i like techniflora's Sugar Daddy

man, I 'sampled' some molasses that had been sitting in my basement for 3 years to see if it was any good. ended up throwing up a few times and taking a nap. don't try to eat rancid molasses, if you're ever considering it, let me tell you.

IMO molasses is a pretty big sugar chain for the microbes to break down, there is actaully alot of residule left in the soil that the microbes cant digest, if you guys really enjoy using molasses it should be used in a compost tea where it is more easily broken down, and used over a long period of time in the tea to feed the microbes.

using a sucrose and glucose are more easily broken down by the microbes and ready to be used by the plant, dextrose is too big for the microbes to digest in a small amount of time.

ive switched from using molasses, everyone in my area thinks its the way to go, i personally hate it, i think it coats the roots and soil in a thick black tar, it makes the soil smell. i think if you spend some time researching you can find something much better and soluble than molasses

check out nectar for the gods sweetner, its a great start for organic sweetners thats already broken down and ready for the plant to uptake it

Just a reminder to use unsulphured molasses,

Bottom line is "Sweetners" do NOT sweeten plants and have few trace elements and so have no real world value except feeding bacteria so if you have not given your plants Beneficial Bactria you will simply be feeding Pythuim and other nasty's, The only winner is the Vender salesman.

The main ingredient listed in Bud Candy and Sweet is magnesium. They do impart a sweeter smell into bud, it can be nice with some strains but off putting with others like OG or Diesel where sweet isnt really what you were going for.

greenthumb831 said:

some of the shit i see on the shelves at they hydroponic stores are just watered down molasses. Molasses by itself is far cheaper and you get more. I use it to feed my soil rather then sweeten buds

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absolutely accurate.
You are feeding the microbes in the soil, and you get a lil potassium and micronutes on top of that, but the advantage is to feed your soil, not the plant. Healthy soil is the key. Mychorrizae and teas are your friends

Most have molasses and cane suger, but the magic ingredients are usually mg and sulfur, which actually help with terpene are trich production, IMO. It's not the same as just adding molasses, that is strickly for feeding beneficial bacteria in your medium.

And the sulfur in the sweeteners should not be confused with the sulfur found in some molasses, that sulfur is a by product produced by making the molasses and not available to the plants which is why you want unsulfured molasses, but sulfur is listed as an ingredient in some sweeteners.

There is alot of research that shows sulfur(the supplemental kinda available to plants) helps with terpene and trich production.

So the sweeteners aren't a gimmick, they are just misleading. They load them with sugar and call them sweeteners so people think they will 'sweeten' the bud. The sugars in Sweet and Floranectar feed any beneficial bacteria in the medium, but the sulfur and mg help with terpene and trich production. If they were just watered down molasses they would be a waste of money but me and many other seasoned growers swear by the products and have used just molasses before, with differing results.

i use molassas every feeding,and inocculate w myco (paul stamets is awesome,please try his!)...all my buds have sweeter tastes and sugar all over..smells also..will not grow without either.

BustinScales510 said:

The main ingredient listed in Bud Candy and Sweet is magnesium. They do impart a sweeter smell into bud, it can be nice with some strains but off putting with others like OG or Diesel where sweet isnt really what you were going for.

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Cant forget the "Cranberry Extract"... ROTFLMFAO...A fool and their money...