Table To Hold Ebb & Flow Tray

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yum114

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Where did you get your table thats holding the tray table for your Ebb & Flow system?
I was thinking of just sitting my tray table on top of my reservoir but then I thought of how hard it will be to top off and feed my reservoir while it has a tray table full of plants on top of it

PS. If you've built a DIY table for this purpose. Please post pics
 
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i built mine out of 1" pvc for about 10 bucks very easy i dont really have any great pics of the stands themselves but here is a few.

all it took for one stand is 2 10' sticks of the pvc and 8 1" pvc Tee's if you would like i could take a few more pics of just the stands for a better reference.
 

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yum114

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drgreentm said:
i built mine out of 1" pvc for about 10 bucks very easy i dont really have any great pics of the stands themselves but here is a few.

all it took for one stand is 2 10' sticks of the pvc and 8 1" pvc Tee's if you would like i could take a few more pics of just the stands for a better reference.
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yes, if it isn't too much trouble please do take extra pics. I'd rather build one and would like an idea. It seems like its not much to it though now. Thanks much!

Also, did you just "sit" the top bars of pvc on the pvc tees, or are they actually pushed in like all of the other connected pieces?
 
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no prob the pvc is in the tees and you can even go as far as pvc gluing the entire thing together for added strength, i personally like to be able to disassemble them though i will post some pics tomorrow of the stands themselves and disassembled as well camera has dead batteries but will grab some in the morning.
 
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drgreentm said:
no prob the pvc is in the tees and you can even go as far as pvc gluing the entire thing together for added strength, i personally like to be able to disassemble them though i will post some pics tomorrow of the stands themselves and disassembled as well camera has dead batteries but will grab some in the morning.
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I appreciate you going through the troubles. I was hesitant to use a table at first due to it restricting my vertical space. But its only my veg tent. I dont need them getting too tall in there anyway!
I'll probably go and buy the piece tomorrow
 
MasterS

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Haha almost the exact same PVC table set up as me ^_^ Also 1" PVC. I didn't glue it either, it holds fine and thought about the disassembling aspect as well.
 
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Ugh, forgot to comment on that restricting height comment >.< haha

You were worried about restricting height but I measured it perfectly and since they are 1" pvc, you only lose 1.5" about. I made it ever so slight above the reservoir to make it easier to slide out to change/clean it.
 
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yum114 said:
Where did you get your table thats holding the tray table for your Ebb & Flow system?
I was thinking of just sitting my tray table on top of my reservoir but then I thought of how hard it will be to top off and feed my reservoir while it has a tray table full of plants on top of it

PS. If you've built a DIY table for this purpose. Please post pics
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cinder blocks, dude. or breezeblocks, mate (if you are in the UK).

I bought cinder blocks at Lowes or Home Depot and maybe some boards cross them to put the tray above the res...

I always reach for cinder blocks or a couple of wooden chairs or saw horses.. be creative. a lot of people make frames with PVC, but I trust concrete more with trays of heavy water, rocks, and expensive plants.

tommy
 
MasterS

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The problem with cinder-blocks are many for me. The obnoxious weight (I'm lazy? haha), takes up much more space, costs more, and doesn't look as clean (I'm aware that is a personal preference).

PVC comes in a lot of thickness levels, I chose 1" because it was sufficient to hold my tray but if the tray is big enough there are much thicker PVC. I guess in a permanent set up where space isn't much of an issue cinder-blocks would be fine but in the case of a permanent set up, I'd build good quality tables.
 
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MasterS said:
The problem with cinder-blocks are many for me. The obnoxious weight (I'm lazy? haha), takes up much more space, costs more, and doesn't look as clean (I'm aware that is a personal preference).

PVC comes in a lot of thickness levels, I chose 1" because it was sufficient to hold my tray but if the tray is big enough there are much thicker PVC. I guess in a permanent set up where space isn't much of an issue cinder-blocks would be fine but in the case of a permanent set up, I'd build good quality tables.
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I wouldn't like cinder blocks or concrete due in part because they are so porous and tough to clean. I'd be worried about mold/fungus or what have you from concrete. PVC is sterile and a cinch to clean.
 
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Encomium said:
I wouldn't like cinder blocks or concrete due in part because they are so porous and tough to clean. I'd be worried about mold/fungus or what have you from concrete. PVC is sterile and a cinch to clean.
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Ok, fine be scared of concrete. It is easy to leave alone and never ever worry about. My floor is concrete, and I don't fret.

PVC is absolutely nasty for humans to be around. Absolutely totally nasty.
Please read a little about it:
PVC: A major environmental health disaster
PVC is the worst plastic from an environmental health perspective, posing major hazards in its manufacture, product life and disposal.

Toxic Manufacturing Byproducts:
Dioxin (the most potent carcinogen known), ethylene dichloride and vinyl chloride are unavoidably created in production of PVC and can cause severe health problems, including:

Cancer
Endocrine disruption
Endometriosis
Neurological damage
Birth defects & impaired child development
Reproductive and immune system damage


I avoid Poly Vinyl Chlorate like the plague. I used copper pipes in my house..

just think about it.. maybe you don't care if you cannot see the fumes from the PVC... I have had issues with plastics and PVC fucking things up. remember all the grow tents that were made with bad plastic? Seasoned growers lost everything they had due to nastiness in plastics. I have lost a whole huge room of hydro due to contaminated plastic in buckets.

This is just stuff to think about. ...

As always, make up your own mind.

tommy
 
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Here are a few pics of the table I built to hold my 2 x 4 tray. I use a 18 gallon tote for a reservoir.
 
MasterS

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Yes, and when burning PVC releases chlorine gas. Who here is eating their PVC, burning it, or doing anything crazy with it. You can find a lot of articles saying to stay away from PVC quoting it causes cancer and the like but they are referring to an unsubstantiated study that was showing the effects of pthalates. While it may have some validity, the amounts required are well above the norm.

**I am pro ceramic pipes, not copper nor PVC :P**

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Ok, fine be scared of concrete. It is easy to leave alone and never ever worry about. My floor is concrete, and I don't fret.

PVC is absolutely nasty for humans to be around. Absolutely totally nasty.
Please read a little about it:
PVC: A major environmental health disaster
PVC is the worst plastic from an environmental health perspective, posing major hazards in its manufacture, product life and disposal.

Toxic Manufacturing Byproducts:
Dioxin (the most potent carcinogen known), ethylene dichloride and vinyl chloride are unavoidably created in production of PVC and can cause severe health problems, including:

Cancer
Endocrine disruption
Endometriosis
Neurological damage
Birth defects & impaired child development
Reproductive and immune system damage


I avoid Poly Vinyl Chlorate like the plague. I used copper pipes in my house..

just think about it.. maybe you don't care if you cannot see the fumes from the PVC... I have had issues with plastics and PVC fucking things up. remember all the grow tents that were made with bad plastic? Seasoned growers lost everything they had due to nastiness in plastics. I have lost a whole huge room of hydro due to contaminated plastic in buckets.

This is just stuff to think about. ...

As always, make up your own mind.

tommy
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tommyo3000

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You don't have to eat it, smartass. It breaks down in intense light.
Clay pipes are much more like concrete than PVC, no?

When you have $25,000 worth of plants die from gassing-off of plastics your perspective might change.

Oh, and your previous plants MIGHT not like chlorine gas or whatever comes off the PVC. They are sensitive and their cells contain parts that get screwed by toxic plastics when you do encounter some.

If I don't want to breathe a fume or chemical, I generally keep that stuff from my plants.

I realize I'm being picky, but my experience gave me PTSD re: plastics.
 
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yum114

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MasterS said:
Ugh, forgot to comment on that restricting height comment >.< haha

You were worried about restricting height but I measured it perfectly and since they are 1" pvc, you only lose 1.5" about. I made it ever so slight above the reservoir to make it easier to slide out to change/clean it.
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But I have to make mine tall enough so that I dont need to pull my res from out under to top off and feed. I cant just slide it out due to it being in an enclosed tent.
 
MasterS

MasterS

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Um why yes clay pipes are more similar to concrete than PVC. Where did I allude that it wasn't or another thought process that seemed to require that you make that distinction? I never said concrete was bad.... didn't even remotely suggest that :P "obnoxious weight (I'm lazy? haha), takes up much more space, costs more, and doesn't look as clean (I'm aware that is a personal preference)" is what I said

Also, " in the case of a permanent set up, I'd build good quality tables." I'd probably go concrete.

I was just giving preference and some info, not criticizing.

Lastly; "PTSD re: plastics." haha that's great ^_^
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drgreentm

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tommyo3000 said:
You don't have to eat it, smartass. It breaks down in intense light.
Clay pipes are much more like concrete than PVC, no?

When you have $25,000 worth of plants die from gassing-off of plastics your perspective might change.

Oh, and your previous plants MIGHT not like chlorine gas or whatever comes off the PVC. They are sensitive and their cells contain parts that get screwed by toxic plastics when you do encounter some.

If I don't want to breathe a fume or chemical, I generally keep that stuff from my plants.

I realize I'm being picky, but my experience gave me PTSD re: plastics.
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i have never had a single plant die or show any harm from my stands, maybe it is for the fact that all my air in the room is exchanged very quickly throughout the day and i would recommend that to any grower out there.
 
MasterS

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Then wouldn't any table have to be the same distance higher so you can access it? PVC thickness takes up 1.5" more height than an infinitely thin table.

yum114 said:
But I have to make mine tall enough so that I dont need to pull my res from out under to top off and feed. I cant just slide it out due to it being in an enclosed tent.
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