Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

These are quite large already, but still so low. I love it.

I could never have achieved such a level canopy with string alone.

Look at those powerful Indica leaves. The label on the Diablo pot warned that they were lanky and should be trained in some way. They grew surprisingly short in light of what the label said. The broad Indica looking leaves of these Tahoes has me thinking this cut must come from a pretty interesting lineage.




Okay, last week of veg coming up. I'm gonna let 'em fill the screen some more. What do you think?

lordjin said:

These are quite large already, but still so low. I love it.
Okay, last week of veg coming up. I'm gonna let 'em fill the screen some more. What do you think?

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Show us an overall shot of how filled your grow cab is and we can suggest which way to go.
Lookin' great jin!

UnderCurrentDWC said:

Show us an overall shot of how filled your grow cab is and we can suggest which way to go.
Lookin' great jin!

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Thanks. I'll take that pulled back shot, but I'm looking for my wide angle lens so I can shoot it from directly overhead. Here's a side view while I look for that pesky lens.

Oh, I should probably mention that I changed the water, but didn't increase the ppm (something I never do). I also left the Tea out. I noticed it broke down and clumped up a bit. I think it was making my res unstable and probably burned the plants too.

I couldn't find my wide angle so I broke it up into two shots. I would say I'm a little more than half full, but less then three quarters. I think one more week is perfect.



Oh, I stopped the nute burn. As you can see, they have a bit to go. But just look how they're growing over that screen like ivy. Those little sub sub branches are reaching for the screen but good. (Btw, the 1000w mh tends to make digital camera sensors go nuts. The white balance on this photo didn't wash out as much so gives a better indication of the plant's true green to the naked eye.)

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Oh, hey Dave, this is the first water change with the plants making significant cage contact. Went off without a hitch. As I was working I thought to myself, "Shop Vac. You're a silly boy. Were you actually worried that your plants wouldn't be strong enough?"

Looks like you have a lot more room on the right side of the screen than the left.
Personally I wouldn't put a set date on the 12/12 flip, one morning you'll look at your cab and think that looks great, time to flip!

lordjin said:

Oh, hey Dave, this is the first water change with the plants making significant cage contact. Went off without a hitch. As I was working I thought to myself, "Shop Vac. You're a silly boy. Were you actually worried that your plants wouldn't be strong enough?"

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That's great to hear. I've only worked with one plant so far, so I would have worried about breaking some weaker branches while holding the lid open. Do you think that it would be safe to do in general or just with certain plant breeds or exceptionally strong, healthy plants?

Just curious, how high above the res lid is your screen anyway? I would guess around 8 inches, but it's hard to tell. Glad that the shop vac idea worked out. I want to SCROG next time just like you're doing, so I might copy that too.

They're really filling in the screen great for plants that are supposed to be lanky. Super job training them to do that so well.

UnderCurrentDWC said:

Looks like you have a lot more room on the right side of the screen than the left.
Personally I wouldn't put a set date on the 12/12 flip, one morning you'll look at your cab and think that looks great, time to flip!

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Just wing it, huh? I like that.

The steady, almost delicate way these grow, I'm not worried, bro. I'm gonna fill that screen. Why not? Their incredibly low nute requirement means I can make my bottles stretch longer.

daveroller said:

That's great to hear. I've only worked with one plant so far, so I would have worried about breaking some weaker branches while holding the lid open. Do you think that it would be safe to do in general or just with certain plant breeds or exceptionally strong, healthy plants?

Just curious, how high above the res lid is your screen anyway? I would guess around 8 inches, but it's hard to tell. Glad that the shop vac idea worked out. I want to SCROG next time just like you're doing, so I might copy that too.

They're really filling in the screen great for plants that are supposed to be lanky. Super job training them to do that so well.

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Good question! I didn't even know myself so I just measured. Good guess too. 8.5" off the tub's surface. That's an extreme train for large plants.

Another good question. I'm not sure if everyone can get away with such man-handling, but that last LSD you grew looked pretty sturdy. I'm sure you could do it.

I think I just wanted to get the shop vac because I like toys. It's good to be able to save a bit here and there, though. I'm feeling pretty good now that I know I can continue the grow as I've always done it in terms of water changes.

lordjin said:

Just wing it, huh?

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I'd say Tailored.
How much height do you have to working with jin?

UnderCurrentDWC said:

I'd say Tailored.
How much height do you have to working with jin?

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If they don't get too far beyond two and a half feet off that screen, I'm golden.

I figure even if they grow vertically an inch a day in the first three weeks of flower (and they won't), I'll still be in the safe zone.

thanks bru, this is actually a backcross I done. I used pollen from a male sac that one of my Headband ladies produced and back crossed it to an OG Kush I had a number of years ago. The result was the self named DOG kush which has more diesel/fuelly smell than the OG earthy goodness you get. One of the lads has a pheno going that is purple though. This one tends to stay a bit more racing green in colour.

lordjin said:

Great. Thanks. Yeah, I love it when people contribute their photos. Just spices up my journal and tends to increase traffic by cross linking to your grow.

That''s functional. It looks like that has a similar plant structure to OG. It pretty much has the same leaves as mine, but yours just isn't purple. Interesting.

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This is one of it flowers....I don't have my journal in my sig but please feel free to stop by. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/264617-dsts-vertical-step-grow-headband-142.html



I have been promised a Purple Cut of OG that originally came from Canada to Scotland, and now my friend is going to hopefully ship on eover to me. Really looking forward to that. The depth of colour in your leaves is trully spectacular. The Pruple that my friend was showing me pics of looks frosty as hell as well. Have a nice Sunday

DST

DST said:

thanks bru, this is actually a backcross I done. I used pollen from a male sac that one of my Headband ladies produced and back crossed it to an OG Kush I had a number of years ago. The result was the self named DOG kush which has more diesel/fuelly smell than the OG earthy goodness you get. One of the lads has a pheno going that is purple though. This one tends to stay a bit more racing green in colour.



This is one of it flowers....I don't have my journal in my sig but please feel free to stop by. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/264617-dsts-vertical-step-grow-headband-142.html

I have been promised a Purple Cut of OG that originally came from Canada to Scotland, and now my friend is going to hopefully ship on eover to me. Really looking forward to that. The depth of colour in your leaves is trully spectacular. The Pruple that my friend was showing me pics of looks frosty as hell as well. Have a nice Sunday

DST

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Wow, that looks like a very legitimate OG specimen. I can only hope mine comes out that good. That's OG perfection, and you crossed it yourself? I think you might be better than this guy who crossed a Goliath for me once. Excellent. Rep.

Boy did I have a close call when I was changing the water. I swear I stopped him in mid nibble. I think he breathed on it, but that was it. Here he is doing his thing on a previous grow.

Catnip? He won't go near it.

Hey, so I get my cat high and force him to pose for glamour photo shoots. You don't do any weird things? Besides, that's life in the big city. He shoulda' known that when he ran away from the farm.

Cheers again lad.

If you get a minute, lordjin check out, Don Gin and Ton's DOG Kush. He has one with real dark leaves like yours, that go mad purple later in flower. I think the main prob Don has is that the pheno he has doesn't stretch as much and produces these shorter plants that have nugs that can be too dense (if that is possible!) His specimin is a real beauty though.

DST said:

Cheers again lad.

If you get a minute, lordjin check out, Don Gin and Ton's DOG Kush. He has one with real dark leaves like yours, that go mad purple later in flower. I think the main prob Don has is that the pheno he has doesn't stretch as much and produces these shorter plants that have nugs that can be too dense (if that is possible!) His specimin is a real beauty though.

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Hell, not stretching as much is a problem how? And there is no such thing as nug too dense.

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Will check Don out. Thanks for the referral.

You need to be able to sustain super low humidity both in lights on and off. Personally I think with a plant with such dense flowers a little bit of spacing for air flow can actually assist. I think people get a bit hung up on a plant that doesn't stretch. Everyone has different environments even in their indoor grows and not everyone can sustain such low humidities. I think if you saw a bunch of kushes growing up the side of a mountain they would all differ in height from top to bottom. I go by the, pheno = geno + environment. So I would say Don's is probably ideal for growing higher up the mountain if you get my meaning. But yeh, no nug can be dense enough!!

Hey jin love the new avatar! DST I have added dog kush and deep blue to my list of possibilities for my 2 outdoor plants this next spring

This thread is moving fast....one week gone and already at pg 60! Looking really good under those screens lordjin.

Here's my tahoe og again a week later. 9 days under shps. This is the taller one ~11" so in about 2-3 days she should be over 12" and ready to be fim'ed.

The Mantis said:

This thread is moving fast....one week gone and already at pg 60! Looking really good under those screens lordjin.

Here's my tahoe og again a week later. 9 days under shps. This is the taller one ~11" so in about 2-3 days she should be over 12" and ready to be fim'ed.

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Comin' along real nice, Mantis. Yeah, that does look similar to the plants I'm growing.

DST said:

You need to be able to sustain super low humidity both in lights on and off. Personally I think with a plant with such dense flowers a little bit of spacing for air flow can actually assist. I think people get a bit hung up on a plant that doesn't stretch. Everyone has different environments even in their indoor grows and not everyone can sustain such low humidities. I think if you saw a bunch of kushes growing up the side of a mountain they would all differ in height from top to bottom. I go by the, pheno = geno + environment. So I would say Don's is probably ideal for growing higher up the mountain if you get my meaning. But yeh, no nug can be dense enough!!

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Right on. I love the way experienced MJ people talk. You're so right about the low humid creating the density. The densest nug I ever grew (ghost) was run at 20% humidity all through flower. Awesome.

brandon727272 said:

Hey jin love the new avatar! DST I have added dog kush and deep blue to my list of possibilities for my 2 outdoor plants this next spring

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Thanks, B. I think you and I are both gonna have to ask DST about that dog kush since he bred it! Awesome again. I'm really into the idea of growing something custom crossed by a real person and not a seed breeder growing for banks.

Thanks, B. I think you and I are both gonna have to ask DST about that dog kush since he bred it! Awesome again. I'm really into the idea of growing something custom crossed by a real person and not a seed breeder growing for banks.

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Can always clone trade and hope for a hermy

Oooo, feminized...