Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

lordjin

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Looking very healthy from inside out.
Thanks. I think I can pretty safely say we're dealing with great genetics and the nute runs well in my tub. I hope this doesn't become a commercial for Hygrozyme. But then again, I hope it does.

Nice... looking good man. :)
Much appreciated. I'm trying my best to go real mild on nutes this time to let them develop in a more refined way (hopefully).
 

Slivers

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Hey jin you mind taking a look at my grow and tell me if it looks healthy for the stage that it's at, i'm experiencing some curling and it has me a little worried.
 

lordjin

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Hey jin you mind taking a look at my grow and tell me if it looks healthy for the stage that it's at, i'm experiencing some curling and it has me a little worried.
It looks like they're struggling a bit. The two main things to check first are new tip growth and roots. If it's still putting progress on new growth and roots are sound, then they're probably just water-logged or underfed. How long at 150ppm? Try increasing your nute to 200-250ppm and make sure those rockwool cubes are damp to the touch but not soaking.
Your ph is okay. Do the roots look healthy? No stink? No slime?

Oh, and do you have an oxygen delivery method to your res? I hope so. Try adding more.

Oh, and what are your average res temps?

Oh, and I will also need to know if you're running ro or tap.
 

Slivers

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Got 3 stones in my res... Roots look white as paper... Starting to fishbone. I think I might be overwatering the mother and that the clones still have curling leaves(from the origonal cuts). I don't water her much at all... maybe twice a week! Oh and the nutes are at 250. This is my first grow so I'm kinda all up in their shit.

No slime. No stink. only been at 250 ppm for about a couple hours now.

Tap water yes... 250 ppm hard as shit, which i've read about... and I've seen plenty of grows with this kind of ppm. My PH likes to go up to 6.5 after a day or so, so I'm constantly adding ph down.
 

lordjin

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Got 3 stones in my res... Roots look white as paper... Starting to fishbone. I think I might be overwatering the mother and that the clones still have curling leaves(from the origonal cuts). I don't water her much at all... maybe twice a week! Oh and the nutes are at 250. This is my first grow so I'm kinda all up in their shit.
So it's the mother you're worried about and not the clones?

If your roots look good, don't worry. It's natural for clones to go through a 'struggle' process when re-rooting where they kinda look sad. Just be up on your levels (including temps) and make sure the roots have plenty of D.O. in the solution. They should be fine.
 

Slivers

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Yea I'm worried about her... I guess you know what it is... I just hate soil. I hate growing in soil. I want to get a 5 gallon bucket and reroot one of my airstones to my veg area. Drill a hole in the bucket and DE-SOIL my mother. Just a pain in my ass. I'm thinking about making a big clone and then getting a dwc(5 gallon bucket) going. I checked the PH coming out of the bottom of her run off one time... it was at 4.3... The ph of my tap is 8. What the fuck? Soil is just... ugh.
 

323cheezy

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you should see my homade clones.. theryre some curlers alright....
The ones i get from the club usuallly come out perfect...
Mine not so much.... not saying that i havnt had great looking personally made cuts...
But Jins right....
There s allot to say about momentum in a cut... the dna doesnt change ... but the vigor does....
Ill see the curl major in clones that take too long to root.... or from cutting lower on the plant..
Some fellow growers told me it was a ph problem (the curl)..... but i know when the clones lose vigor...
Not to worry a good month in veg wil perkem right up.... and willl keep the nodes closer ...
A low vigor clones has its advantageous...as dumb as its sounds....
 

lordjin

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Yea I'm worried about her... I guess you know what it is... I just hate soil. I hate growing in soil. I want to get a 5 gallon bucket and reroot one of my airstones to my veg area. Drill a hole in the bucket and DE-SOIL my mother. Just a pain in my ass. I'm thinking about making a big clone and then getting a dwc(5 gallon bucket) going. I checked the PH coming out of the bottom of her run off one time... it was at 4.3... The ph of my tap is 8. What the fuck? Soil is just... ugh.
Oh boy, I getcha. Your mother plant is in soil. Your guess is as good as mine with soil, I'm afraid. ph 8 water becomes ph 4 after running through pot? Hmmmm... I just don't get it. That's why I don't even try growing that way. A clean hydro mother to hydro clone transplant is the best. That way you also ensure that no pests or disease are transferred.

you should see my homade clones.. theryre some curlers alright....
The ones i get from the club usuallly come out perfect...
Mine not so much.... not saying that i havnt had great looking personally made cuts...
But Jins right....
There s allot to say about momentum in a cut... the dna doesnt change ... but the vigor does....
Ill see the curl major in clones that take too long to root.... or from cutting lower on the plant..
Some fellow growers told me it was a ph problem (the curl)..... but i know when the clones lose vigor...
Not to worry a good month in veg wil perkem right up.... and willl keep the nodes closer ...
A low vigor clones has its advantageous...as dumb as its sounds....
That doesn't sound dumb at all. And I'm actually hoping these girls don't have as much as vigor as the Platinum did. Their growth is super healthy, but they don't seem to be growing as fast as the Plat did. I could be wrong and they might make me eat my words in the next few days, but their growth seems more steady and cotrolled so far.

I have high hopes for this double training method I'm using.
 

brandon727272

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Hey slivers I'm pretty noob (just finished my first soil grow) but if your base soil is super acidic get some dolomite lime. add some to the top soil and it should buffer your ph a bit and balance it out. I had to do this with mine
 

ChairmanMaow

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Not to worry a good month in veg will perkem right up.... and will keep the nodes closer ... A low vigor clone has its advantages... as dumb as its sounds....
Most of my clones are a little slow, but when they really start to get back into veg, watch out.

I'll agree on slow clones, too. I love the fact that mine start out slow, because when they do take off, it's a struggle to figure out where to put everyone. With my space as limited as it is right now, I can hardly fit more then 8 or 9 in my flowering space. And with 3 almost 2 foot girls in my veg space right now, space is an issue.
 

Slivers

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Ok. sounds good. Today I'm not as worried though... fishbone roots are 3x as long as they where yesterday, so at least i'm seeing some growth.
 

lordjin

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More day to day veg action for you.

Day 16

Day 18 - Caught a nice whiff of plant 1 today. Wow.

Hey, Cheeze. These are growing real mellow compared to the Platinum. I have a feeling the fan leaves might not be as big either. Still keeping fingers crossed. They're starting to look more wicked already. What do you think?

Roots on P1


P2 - She's still trailing her big sister, but she's certainly no slouch.

I really like the fact that I can show my grow every step of the way this time. I feel all 'greased-up' from having done the diablo journal already.
 

RedRiot

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Lordjin, I'm a big fan. I've been following you journals for a while now. what was The final weight on the diablo og harvest?
 

lordjin

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Fishbones are beautiful. This is P2. Doesn't that look like an icicle to you? OOps! Said it again, Dave.

Here are a couple of close-ups of the new growth. Hey, ganja photographers... if you have a half-way decent camera, look for the macro function. It's usually represented by a flower symbol on your camera's function dial. This allows you to get really close and sharp. I don't need a microscope to check my trichs because of this handy function.

P1 - I can almost smell her by this picture. Mmmm....


P2 - Not too bad... She needs to kick it up a notch, though.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is OG Kush, a cut of the finest breeding. Thanks, Cheeze. Hats off to your club. These have some of the most beautiful purple hues I've seen in an OG veg. Some of the other varieties I've grown lose their purple pretty fast. And the smell, wow. No matter how fuckin' crazy they go in flower, I'll finish the grow for that smell alone. I'll break the fuckin' branches if I have to. I've done it before. I can already tell this is gonna be better weed than the Diablo.
 

lordjin

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Lordjin, I'm a big fan. I've been following you journals for a while now. what was The final weight on the diablo og harvest?
Hello, stranger. Step out of the shadows into the light where I can see you...

Yes, that's much better.

It wasn't one of my heaviest yields, but at just under 15oz pretty decent for an OGk.
 
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