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KinkyReggae420

KinkyReggae420

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Hey im currently three weeks into flowing on my super silver haze. Like I've posted previously, the bottom leaves keep yellowing and developing these brown spots. Is this part of the regular cycle becuase the plant is using up the N? Also the white hairs are starting to to turn orange. I know that they will eventually change color, but is three weeks in too early? Thanks any help is great!
 

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t0k3s

t0k3s

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KinkyReggae420 said:
Hey im currently three weeks into flowing on my super silver haze. Like I've posted previously, the bottom leaves keep yellowing and developing these brown spots. Is this part of the regular cycle becuase the plant is using up the N? Also the white hairs are starting to to turn orange. I know that they will eventually change color, but is three weeks in too early? Thanks any help is great!
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How often you watering?only when it needs it right?other then that it seems fine,its normal for older growth/dead growth to occur on low older branches during flower,unless it starts spreading your fine.once it dies it will fall,or you can pick it off:bigjoint:
 
Leftyy2k4

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t0k3s said:
How often you watering?only when it needs it right?other then that it seems fine,its normal for older growth/dead growth to occur on low older branches during flower,unless it starts spreading your fine.once it dies it will fall,or you can pick it off:bigjoint:
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Something is not right. They should not be black like that.

 
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it doesn't matter. That is not natural, that is a deficiency or something. But it could be anything, even just some fertilizer that you got on the leaf, i say cut those leaves with the dark green spots off and if the same thing starts to happen to other leaves then you have a problem, im sorry however, because i do not know what that problem is.
 
t0k3s

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cleangro said:
it doesn't matter. That is not natural, that is a deficiency or something. But it could be anything, even just some fertilizer that you got on the leaf, i say cut those leaves with the dark green spots off and if the same thing starts to happen to other leaves then you have a problem, im sorry however, because i do not know what that problem is.
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Until he answers my original question we wont know:peace:
 
Leftyy2k4

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t0k3s said:
Its the lighting,look at all the pictures no black dark green.
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I dunno. Those dark spots look bad. If they were light brown maybe i could see it was from flowering but it just looks off.

You could be right but i doubt it. Op needs to tell us more.
 
morrisgreenberg

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looks like you have over fertilized a little bit, you can tell by the dark green color of your fan leaves, nothing to serious but you should back off the nutes a touch, we generally think we get nute burn by burnt tips, but before the tips get burnt, you will see the dark green , since you have been flowering 3 weeks how long ago did you switch to bloom nutes? the reason i ask is because the plant isnt flowerin when you flip the switch to 12/12, its flowering when you first see flowers developing, so until then you should still be using GROW nutes, this is why you will get premature yellowing
 
morrisgreenberg

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t0k3s said:
How often you watering?only when it needs it right?other then that it seems fine,its normal for older growth/dead growth to occur on low older branches during flower,unless it starts spreading your fine.once it dies it will fall,or you can pick it off:bigjoint:
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totally agree, whats kinda ferts you using ?
 
KinkyReggae420

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Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys... I just went to the store to pick up a pH/light/moisture reader. THe pH is right around 6.5 which from what I understand is ideal. The soil is a mixture of organic soil and miracle grow seed starter potting mix. I dont think I have been watering it enough. I usually give it about a half gallon of water every four days (or when the moisture worm I have tells me to). The reader I got today said it was really dry when I checked it and I watered it two days ago so I think I need to increase the amount of water or frequency of watering? I am using the miracle grow bloom booster for ferts and giving it half of the recommended amount for indoor plants. The pictures actually make the plant look worse off than it is. The spots aren't black there more tan with a darker green center. Im including more pics with this post. It does look like the problem is spreading up the plant, which is no good im sure. What do you guys think?
 

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KinkyReggae420 said:
Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys... I just went to the store to pick up a pH/light/moisture reader. THe pH is right around 6.5 which from what I understand is ideal. The soil is a mixture of organic soil and miracle grow seed starter potting mix. I dont think I have been watering it enough. I usually give it about a half gallon of water every four days (or when the moisture worm I have tells me to). The reader I got today said it was really dry when I checked it and I watered it two days ago so I think I need to increase the amount of water or frequency of watering? I am using the miracle grow bloom booster for ferts and giving it half of the recommended amount for indoor plants. The pictures actually make the plant look worse off than it is. The spots aren't black there more tan with a darker green center. Im including more pics with this post. It does look like the problem is spreading up the plant, which is no good im sure. What do you guys think?
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looks like to much water to me,and maybe salt build ups,moisture meters can be tricky sometimes,its best to let the plant tell when it needs water
 
KinkyReggae420

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t0k3s said:
looks like to much water to me,and maybe salt build ups,moisture meters can be tricky sometimes,its best to let the plant tell when it needs water
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I just flushed it about 2 weeks ago when I first noticed the yellowing thinking it was salt build up like you said. Should I flush it out again? How much water should I use to flush it?
 
kremnon

kremnon

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the necrosis on ur lower leaves doesnt look that bad but is a sign of nut problem usually (k) (Mg) (Fe) deficiency
 
t0k3s

t0k3s

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KinkyReggae420 said:
I just flushed it about 2 weeks ago when I first noticed the yellowing thinking it was salt build up like you said. Should I flush it out again? How much water should I use to flush it?
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When leaching,just water it until its really wet,and its starts draining,then add more and keep it going until it seems clean to you then stop,let the soil dry out completely before watering again.To be honest from looking into it more,id say maybe you have magnesium problems ,the dark colored leafs on top,yellowing/necrosis from bottom up.
 
Leftyy2k4

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yeah something aint right. It looks to be affecting young secondary fan leaves as well. if it was just straight flowering those secondary fan leaves would be fine till most the main fan leaves yellowed.

 
KinkyReggae420

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if it is a magnesium problem whats the best way to correct it? just mix some nutes that are high in Mg with what im already giving it?
 
KinkyReggae420

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I just added some epsom salt with water and give it to her. Hopefully it fixes the prob. I'll keep you guys updated and thanks for the help!!
 
Leftyy2k4

Leftyy2k4

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You need to make sure the issue is not because of lock out. If thats the case and you give it even more it will cause even more issues.

You siad you tested the ph? How did you do this? What nutes are you using?

I suggest you start slowly and first flush with properly phed water. Than The next water feed nutes again.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Magnesium (Mg) - Micronutrient and Mobile Element


Magnesium helps supports healthy veins while keeping a healthy leaf production and its structure. Magnesium is significant for chlorophyll-production and enzyme break downs. Magnesium which must be present in relatively large quantities for the plant to survive, but yet not to much to where it will cause the plant to show a toxicity.


Magnesium is one of the easiest deficiencies to tell… the green veins along with the yellowness of the entire surrounding leave is a dead giveaway, but sometimes that’s not always the case here. In case you have one of those where it doesn’t show the green veins, sometimes leaf tips and edges may discolor and curl upward. The growing tips can turn lime green when the deficiency progresses to the top of the plant. The edges will feel like dry and crispy and usually affects the lower leaves in younger plants, then will affect the middle to upper half when it gets older, but It can also happen on older leaves as well. The deficiency will start at the tip then will take over the entire outer left and right sides of the leaves. The inner part will be yellow and or brownish in color, followed by leaves falling without withering. The tips can also twist and turn as well as curving upwards as if you curl your tongues.


Excessive levels of magnesium in your plants will exhibit a buildup of toxic salts that will kill the leaves and lock out other nutrients like Calcium (Ca). Mg can get locked out by having too much Calcium, Chlorine or ammonium in your soil/water.
One of the worst problems a person can have is a magnesium def caused by a ph lockout. By giving it more magnesium to cure the problem when you are thinking you are doing good, but actually you are doing more harm then good. When the plants can’t take in a nutrient because of the ph being off for that element, the plant will not absorb it but it will be in the soil… therefore causing a buildup. A buildup will be noticed by the outer parts of the plant becoming whitish and or a yellowish color. The tips and part way in on the inner leaves will die and feel like glass. Parts affected by Magnesium deficiency are: space between the veins (Interveinal) of older leaves; may begin around interior perimeter of leaf.
 
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