I think you are both right. Rob Roy is without a doubt the most consistent poster in his belief system. I want us to move more toward his line of thought than the progressive we are all equal line of thought. I commend him for his attempts at doing so and educating the rest of us. I also think that with human nature in it's present form, it's going to be long uphill climb to get there and nearly impossible.
When you use the term "it's people" in reference to the USA it reveals that you view things from an assumption of authority and ownership of the people by the USA / government. You will never be free with that mindset. I am an individual and respect your choice to be owned, shame you don't respect the rights of others to choose freedom.
You bring up a good point, which validates MY point, again. Human nature cannot be trusted, especially when people with your mindset get into government. That's why institutions such as coercive government that EMBRACE the idea that one group or person is superior to another should not be empowered. You think without a daddy to make sure everybody does as their told there will be chaos, yet you never examine how bad "daddy" is. Nor do you recognize what you fear happening IS happening since your favored system uses coercion from the start. You simply shrug and say "that's the way it is", then you proceed to empower that which you fear. That's illogical.