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ginwilly

ginwilly

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UncleBuck said:
do not google docking papa. cannot be unseen.
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OK Buck, please forgive me for giving you so much shit. I see now that there are times I should heed your advice. I went into instant distrust mode and got burned.

That's gonna leave a mark. Listen to this man.
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
Interesting post, but can't the President just veto the fuck out of/not sign bills?
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That is part of it. They try to force him to veto or try to force him not to veto, and always try to see through the layer of deception, and skating the law, at every turn. And that is to say nothing of the hidden court games where people can be quietly disappeared or accident-ed.

All Machiavellian all day long. I'm waiting for the challenge to see if a President can pardon himself.

I am quite sure he can.
 
Doer

Doer

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And, you know, a President that won't allow the Congress to operate by vetoing it all, will have all his veto overridden.

You forget the 60% Senate override. Lucky that is in the Constitution and not for Harry Reid to goof with.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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Doer said:
I'm waiting for the challenge to see if a President can pardon himself.

I am quite sure he can.
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This sounds so ridiculous on the surface yet so plausible it's frightening. I'm not even sure the slope has to be slippery anymore, just retrograde.
 
see4

see4

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ginwilly said:
This sounds so ridiculous on the surface yet so plausible it's frightening. I'm not even sure the slope has to be slippery anymore, just retrograde.
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Doesn't need to be either. They could plausibly do it without consequence. It would probably be a one time thing though. The first President to do it, would be the last President to do it.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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see4 said:
Doesn't need to be either. They could plausibly do it without consequence. It would probably be a one time thing though. The first President to do it, would be the last President to do it.
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I'm sure you are right, they amended the constitution to prevent another FDR. It would get done after that guy left office.

I don't think the next president would push for the changes though. My own pardon power? I promise to use this for good and not evil, promise.
 
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