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Rob Roy

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rawn pawl is all for letting states prohibit cannabis, which would include the entire american south where you come from.

why do you support prohibition?

When solving a math equation, some people use "liberal math", that would be you. Others calculate both sides of the equation. Ron Paul is for ending the DEA and "letting" states legalize if that is what the legislature / people go for. So it could just as easily be said he is for complete legalization. He's not a prohibitionist like Cheezy.
Of course the idea that a state should have any power to prohibit what a person ingests anymore than the FEDS can is where Ron Paul needs to evolve.

Please no Ron Paul turtle fucking replies either, I had a pet turtle as a kid and the memory of his demise in the garbage disposal still cuts deep.
 

Doer

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rawn pawl is all for letting states prohibit cannabis, which would include the entire american south where you come from.

why do you support prohibition?
Letting States prohibit? Business as usual, the page of today. It will take an Amendment to force States to not restrict it, somehow.
 

Dr.J20

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Ron Paul is for abolishing the IRS, nice try though.
Well played but still over par.



Enjoy!
i honestly don't understand the positive usefulness of the concept of "privilege" or "white privilege." Beyond allowing us another way of discussing the historical fact of western governmentally sponsored oppression, and highlighting the quite obvious fact of institutional and systemic bias (which results from that historical fact), where does it actually get us?
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the concept is empty or wrong or backwards. I'm asking why it seems an effective route to correcting the issue? Particularly when it can alienate whites who may have otherwise been willing to throw in with the overall cause?
 

Doer

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i honestly don't understand the positive usefulness of the concept of "privilege" or "white privilege." Beyond allowing us another way of discussing the historical fact of western governmentally sponsored oppression, and highlighting the quite obvious fact of institutional and systemic bias (which results from that historical fact), where does it actually get us?
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the concept is empty or wrong or backwards. I'm asking why it seems an effective route to correcting the issue? Particularly when it can alienate whites who may have otherwise been willing to throw in with the overall cause?
It is simple. The poster says it all.

We white bread, Americans from good, solid, middle class, un-broken families have no idea of how much the path of life is paved with gold, just for us.

It is the result of a 1000 year of oppression of the "Wog."

So, the problem is we don't see a problem. The problem is we think there is no problem with opportunity. But we are raised to act like the shit heads we are, us whites.

And since acting like white privilege is a god given consent to the Master race, (we won't admit that to ourselves) all the while saying, race, race., what race?....

.....we all seem to be subconsciously insane. Right, Trav?
 

Dr.J20

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So, the problem is we don't see a problem.
does 'we' refer to all white people? and if so, what of the individual white people who do see a problem and want to do something about it? they certainly don't fall into that group (the group of privileged people who don't see the problem), yet have most certainly have benefited from, and therefore are possessed of, privilege as described by those who invoke the term. Thus, I fail to see its use.

if 'we' refers to the more abstract institutions traditionally controlled by whites (white protestant upper-class males to be more accurate) then i suppose i can understand the statement a little better but still fail to see why it is useful to use a concept that is so thoroughly cognitively dissonant in the population who must grasp said concept for the concept to achieve its intended goal. If that makes sense. Put more directly, if the white privilegers are so privileged that they can't even comprehend the concept of their own privilege, why would an appeal to that privilege, a struggle to reveal what seems nonexistant, be useful to accomplish the reorganization of social institutions in a more equitable way?
it's almost like trying to convince an atheist that god exists in order to get a better school, fire house, and town hall...
:leaf:
 

Doer

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does 'we' refer to all white people? and if so, what of the individual white people who do see a problem and want to do something about it? they certainly don't fall into that group (the group of privileged people who don't see the problem), yet have most certainly have benefited from, and therefore are possessed of, privilege as described by those who invoke the term. Thus, I fail to see its use.

if 'we' refers to the more abstract institutions traditionally controlled by whites (white protestant upper-class males to be more accurate) then i suppose i can understand the statement a little better but still fail to see why it is useful to use a concept that is so thoroughly cognitively dissonant in the population who must grasp said concept for the concept to achieve its intended goal. If that makes sense. Put more directly, if the white privilegers are so privileged that they can't even comprehend the concept of their own privilege, why would an appeal to that privilege, a struggle to reveal what seems nonexistant, be useful to accomplish the reorganization of social institutions in a more equitable way?
it's almost like trying to convince an atheist that god exists in order to get a better school, fire house, and town hall...
:leaf:
I have no idea what you mean. Sorry.
 
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