Tesla New Model Unveil...
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DIY-HP-LED
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I'm becoming a fan of these cheap Chinese mini EVs, that IMHO can be charged from home without too much expense and bother. Something like this, but with a bit more power for North America would be nice as a second car for many families. I can see vehicles like this taking off in many developing countries and Europe as a commuter vehicle and an introduction to EV's
This one comes with an 8 year warranty and because of the simple drive trains of most EVs, I think you'll see long power train warranties as a selling feature. Also these cars use cheap very long life, LFP batteries (3000 cycles) that should last for a decade with normal use, so there might also be a long warranty on the battery too.
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The Cost in EC1 $5000 Electric car gets a 5 star safety rating
The Cost in EC1 $5000 Electric car gets a 5 star safety rating
This one comes with an 8 year warranty and because of the simple drive trains of most EVs, I think you'll see long power train warranties as a selling feature. Also these cars use cheap very long life, LFP batteries (3000 cycles) that should last for a decade with normal use, so there might also be a long warranty on the battery too.
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The Cost in EC1 $5000 Electric car gets a 5 star safety rating
The Cost in EC1 $5000 Electric car gets a 5 star safety rating
DIY-HP-LED
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The Chinese are looking to break into the auto making market in a very big way and use the switch over to EVs to do it. They have better offerings than this piss pot! North American EVs have to be able to cope with freeway speeds, people drive from the burbs to the city center and for most an EV will be a second car for while, with a ICE car used for road trips.
In the end EVs will be cheaper to produce with lower part counts and might have long warranties with few moving parts and simpler drive trains than ICE vehicles. Batteries are the key, but so is reduced vehicle size for many, as no matter how good the battery, if you wanna charge an F150 it takes a helluva lot of juice to charge it and move it. These smaller vehicles can be charged at home using 120 volts, or 220 for faster charging, you don't need to install a 200 amp entrance and buy a charger worth thousands of dollars to charge at home in a reasonable time.
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That efficiency talk doesn't go over so well in here. It's either 5000lbs of a tank EV or nothing.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://ucommblog.com/section/national-politics/biden-refuses-invite-tesla-white-house
there's some fucked up shit going on at Tesla....they were found guilty of union busting last spring, and they just lost a million dollar racism case, and it looks like there may be more coming....
there's some fucked up shit going on at Tesla....they were found guilty of union busting last spring, and they just lost a million dollar racism case, and it looks like there may be more coming....
DIY-HP-LED
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No wonder he moved to Texas
doublejj
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Tesla did not contribute to the democrats last year like the big 3 auto makers did. So no soup for Tesla they didn't pay tribute.....
doublejj
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I still think that's just to rub their noses in it.....he can't even sell a Tesla in Texas. He's building EV's right under there noses in the biggest oil state in the union. lol Texas can watch their future roll out of the Tesla factory up close and personal.
ttystikk
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I know many people who've put in a 30A charger and do just fine. No one really needs to charge a 100kW battery in 30 minutes at home.
DIY-HP-LED
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The Allies loved this awful car that kept killing Nazi generals during World War II
The Tatra 87 was Hitler's car of the future. It had a top speed of more than 100 mph but handled like a shopping cart.
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The Allies loved this awful car that kept killing Nazi generals during World War II
- The Czechoslovakian-built Tatra 87 was Hitler's car of the future.
- It had a top speed of more than 100 mph but handled like a shopping cart.
- That was a fatal combination for its German drivers, which earned the car the Allies' approval.
With a top speed of more than 100 mph, it was a car destined for the Autobahn. Its sleek, futuristic design and high performance made it the vehicle of choice for Nazi officers. It was the Allies' vehicle of choice for their enemy, too. They wanted all Nazis to drive one — because it would eventually kill them.
If 100 mph doesn't seem impressive by today's standards, in 1935, it was a big deal. The car's aerodynamic design helped it achieve these speeds.
It didn't hurt that the speed and design also made it seem like the future was coming, and the Nazis were leading the way. And it was coming, it was just a very short future. For most of the Nazi officers that pushed the limit in the car, their future usually consisted of wrapping themselves around a tree.
While the Tatra 87 has an incredible top speed, it seems it handles like a shopping cart. The death toll it took on Nazi officers was so bad, the Allies referred to the cars as their "secret weapon." It even killed more of them than actual World War II combat — and these were the officers fighting the Soviet Union.
In the first week of its availability, seven officers took the 95 horsepower, 3.4-liter V8 engine for a spin and never came home after spinning it out of control. But there was a safer, more economical version.
In 1939, the Volkswagen Beetle was introduced, which borrowed a lot of design elements from the Tatra, so much so that its designer, Porsche, had to pay Tatra for infringement.
CunningCanuk
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“We should be acting like our house is on fire,” Seaman said. “If you even just pay attention to the news this week, with the fires in Greece and Italy and now Algeria and Oregon and California, this is not normal and it's only going to become worse. This is just the beginning.”
Antarctica is melting. Its future could be catastrophic
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Antarctica is melting. Its future could be catastrophic
Antarctica is changing. The impact could be catastrophic
Camille Seaman has been visiting Antarctica on and off since 2004. In just the past few years, the photographer has witnessed a noticeable change on the continent.
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DIY-HP-LED
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The technology is almost there for a major paradigm shift in transportation and energy with EVs and a green grid, the bottle neck is electrical energy storage which vastly improves grid efficiency. In the end it is economic incentives and policy that will make the difference. EVs have a lower part count and will be cheaper to produce than ICE vehicles with much longer warranties, lower maintenance and operating costs.“We should be acting like our house is on fire,” Seaman said. “If you even just pay attention to the news this week, with the fires in Greece and Italy and now Algeria and Oregon and California, this is not normal and it's only going to become worse. This is just the beginning.”
Antarctica is melting. Its future could be catastrophic
Antarctica is changing. The impact could be catastrophic
Camille Seaman has been visiting Antarctica on and off since 2004. In just the past few years, the photographer has witnessed a noticeable change on the continent.
If America can stay in the game and not elect fucking lunatics, we might have a chance with global warming and we can put sanctions on those who won't play ball. It's gonna be a bit like vaccines, they are gonna have to be mandated to be effective in many places. America and the G20 can pull this off and I don't think China will be an issue, they are busy transforming to take advantage of the coming changes.
As the climate problems become more acute the focus on solving them will be more intense, the main problem is nature has certain tipping points and when ya go over the edge it's not so easy to get back on track.
CunningCanuk
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If we aren’t already over the edge, we are looking over it.
CatHedral
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I wonder what the cheapest Chinese EV is that is CalDOT compliant.