doublejj
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Make the changes you feel are best.......I'll do the same. There's an EV in my future
Tesla New Model Unveil...
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rkymtnman
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mother earth will purge herself of the humans eventually and will heal herself.
That's totally fine is that's all that was being said, but claiming that teslas will save the planet is about as accurate as saying that corollas will save the planet. Like I said, they're cool cars and I'd love to have one, even though musk is musky and they absolutely will not be saving the planet, at least not with anything close to their current product line.
For what it's worth, we do have some loose plans to live more correctly and less hypocritically, in a location that would see far less disruption than the US, if certain corporations go out of business. People die here without safeway and the boats/trains/trucks that move their products around the world. Other places, it'd just be a minor inconvenience.
doublejj
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we're gonna miss yah......best of luck
Elon Musk is doing more for the future of the planet than any human on earth.
rkymtnman
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hey JJ, i know you're a tesla guy but have you seen the audi RS e-tron GT? i think it has 650+ wheel horsepower. it's sexy looking in the commercial
Why wouldn't a more efficient company making a smaller/lighter car from less material be doing more? Because they're not pandering to hummer owners?
guitarguy10
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so many things that have been said that can be argued with but my hatred here is focused on Mr. Musk.
So with that said, Tesla only manufacturers like 0.8% of the world's automotive supply, it caters to the wealthy who can afford a $60,000 car (and the crazy expensive associated repair costs that will come down the road). They have a minimal influence on their industry, just the wealthy and/or dedicated musk sheeple whose shit doesn't stink ...
The other companies have been smart to just wait for Tesla to perfect and then make their own cheaper and better alternatives.
Tesla also force their own direct DC charging standard when the rest of the ENTIRE automotive industry has already adopted the SAE J1772 standard. Their direct DC (superchargers) are just glorified gas pumps that shift the energy source from a gas pump to a standard that's proprietary to them and that just shifts the source of energy to often more polluting coal, gas, oil power stations (and I wouldn't be surprised if they're in some sort of private subsidy programs with local power stations) . If you think Tesla is trying to move us to an energy conscious model then you'll have to answer why they force people to use their own proprietary standard when one that has already been adopted by every single car manufacturer exists.
On another note that SNL monologue he did was absolutely cringy, he basically went up there to apologize to his investors for smoking weed and whatever other things he's said or done that has hurt his financial bottom line, tried to elicit sympathy by the Asperger's that he says he has (and I don't believe cuz I know people on the spectrum, he's just awkward) and then he ends it by bringing out his mother to hug her ... wtf? do people not see right through that? lol
So with that said, Tesla only manufacturers like 0.8% of the world's automotive supply, it caters to the wealthy who can afford a $60,000 car (and the crazy expensive associated repair costs that will come down the road). They have a minimal influence on their industry, just the wealthy and/or dedicated musk sheeple whose shit doesn't stink ...
The other companies have been smart to just wait for Tesla to perfect and then make their own cheaper and better alternatives.
Tesla also force their own direct DC charging standard when the rest of the ENTIRE automotive industry has already adopted the SAE J1772 standard. Their direct DC (superchargers) are just glorified gas pumps that shift the energy source from a gas pump to a standard that's proprietary to them and that just shifts the source of energy to often more polluting coal, gas, oil power stations (and I wouldn't be surprised if they're in some sort of private subsidy programs with local power stations) . If you think Tesla is trying to move us to an energy conscious model then you'll have to answer why they force people to use their own proprietary standard when one that has already been adopted by every single car manufacturer exists.
On another note that SNL monologue he did was absolutely cringy, he basically went up there to apologize to his investors for smoking weed and whatever other things he's said or done that has hurt his financial bottom line, tried to elicit sympathy by the Asperger's that he says he has (and I don't believe cuz I know people on the spectrum, he's just awkward) and then he ends it by bringing out his mother to hug her ... wtf? do people not see right through that? lol
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Budley Doright
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I wholeheartedly agree that we are a gluttonous countries (both Canada and the US) and I’m as guilty as anyone. But I do think electric vehicles are a good thing compared to a gas car (when practical) and I only based that on my limited reading of true cost (including the total carbon footprint). We gotta start somewhere because we know for sure that fossil fuels don’t work well. I won’t live to see the long term successes and failures. I just hope my daughters not living on a boat
. As for Tesla, don’t care, sold the stock and bought shopify 
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rkymtnman
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Elon Musk says Tesla Model S Plaid+ is 'canceled'
Elon Musk claims the Tesla Model S Plaid+ is 'canceled' as the regular Plaid model is good enough.
no plaid plus for you!!
Budley Doright
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When
! I need to clean my garage!!!
rkymtnman
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i am disgusted by mine. i need to make room for a bunch of shit though so maybe that will get me motivatedWhen
Budley Doright
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Taco???I've been having difficulty in this thread finding any resolution in there beyond "gas" and "electric", since a big block 454 chevy dually and a 1.3l civic are quite a bit different, yet both are somehow the same "gas" vehicles. Teslas are the chevy big block of the EV world, big fat 2.5 ton pigs with 1200lb batteries. Just being electric doesn't mean it's good. Trains are technically electric, of course the electricity is from big diesel motors, but you can see how there's more to it than just being electric. I know it's not available yet, but to me the Atera is the car people should have put their attention towards, if they truly cared about EV being anything more than being for well-to-do housewives wanting to lie to each other about saving the environment in order to look cool and feel good about themselves.I wholeheartedly agree that we are a gluttonous countries (both Canada and the US) and I’m as guilty as anyone. But I do think electric vehicles are a good thing compared to a gas car (when practical) and I only based that on my limited reading of true cost (including the total carbon footprint). We gotta start somewhere because we know for sure that fossil fuels don’t work well. I won’t live to see the long term successes and failures. I just hope my daughters not living on a boat
Meant to add this earlier, but wanted to wait until lights-on. Obviously we don't grow all of our own food, or even a quarter, but I've got some good stuff going in here everyday, year around. And sure, maybe some other seed types get started in there too.
I don't need to produce all of our own food, rather grow something that can be eaten by us, as well as sold/traded so that someday maybe 90% of what we eat is local, so that life isn't terribly interrupted when a corporation collapses.
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Budley Doright
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I’m more of a big block Chevy guy, I have a camper
. Like I said I don’t give a fuck about Tesla and just like gas there are big and little EV’s. Comparatively apples to applesEV’s still win the carbon footprint race. And that’s not the end all to the issues facing us, just one.
doublejj
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Elon stated from the very beginning that early adapters with deep pockets would be fitting the bill for the development of cheaper models to come later. The high cost of the batteries is the real price limiting factor. Tesla is producing cars at a price point that the consumers can live with and it's continually going down as new models come out and battery technology evolves.
doublejj
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are those lights run by solar?.....how are you gonna keep them on when the corporation collapses?Meant to add this earlier, but wanted to wait until lights-on. Obviously we don't grow all of our own food, or even a quarter, but I've got some good stuff going in here everyday, year around. And sure, maybe some other seed types get started in there too.
Justin-case
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As Warren Buffett said, "never bet against America"