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cmt1984

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When I got my twins, I let them go in the paper towel until they chucked the seed shell. Seperated them, and planted them seperate. I hope you don't have trouble getting them apart. I'll have my fingers crossed for ya!
yeah that would have worked out a little better. luckily i didnt have any problems separating them, just dug around them carefully until i could see the whole root system and the little one just pulled right out...no damage at all to either plant.
 

wheezer

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Cool. I'll be watching for your progress with these, as I have heard 1 usually is no good, but so far I'm not seeing that. Mine have looked different from the start, but after topping them both, they're about the same size now..both healthy! I can't help but think the offspring from these are gonne be a bunch of retards, but who knows, maybe I'll get a rain man......."lots of resin, definitly lots of resin"....
 

jtrbushes

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***WA State RCW 69.51A Compliant***

Jack the Ripper, Pink Lemonade. Chopped @ 64 days of flower. Amazing smell. The scissor hash is amazing. Deeelicious.

 

ocanabis

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I felt this one needed to be shown and spoke of.

Breeder: TGA - SubCool
Strain: Space Dawg
Lineage if known: Snow Dog x Space Dude
Grower: Ocanabis
Judge: same
Type (sativa/indica ratio): 70 % Inica 30% Sativa

EYE APPEAL

<7-8> Density
<9> Aroma

COMMENTS:
Pheno's that are more Snow Dog dominant are dencer and chunkier and while the Space Dude dominats plants appear more spear shaped and a tad lighter/flufier.

Best to harvest be for the 50 - 57 days if you want to retain the Fruity Bubble gum aroma's that come from these gals.I missed it by a few days and harvested at 60 days and the aroma's stared to fade off with the exception of the lemon Pheno's.



SMOKE REPORT

<9> Potency
<9> Taste
<10> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<70 %> Indica Influence
<30 %> Sativa Influence
<2> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<1> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<10> Overall Satisfaction

COMMENTS:

High Description: Clear and center headed with an easy laid back feeling
Smell: Lemon's and Fruity Bubble Gums with hints of spicy hash, skunk and grapes
Taste: ranging from Citrucy Lemons and Grapes
Medical Effects:
<Y> Medicinal Strength Calming,Mood elevating,Relaxing
KEEPER?
<Y> YES

FINAL COMMENTS:
30 days cured
Lemon Pheno's are excelent tasting leaning to a very sharp citrucy yet slightly sour, almost diesel like Lemon taste.It leaves a very Lemony taste on the gums and pallet long after you finish your bowl. The High comes on fast and hard hitting but after 20 - 30 minutes it will level off to a realy nice cruzing spead buzz.I felt very energetic and refreshed after smoking just one bowl but yet I could also just kick back and watch a movie or some thing.By the way,the buz from just the 1 bowl lasted 2 hrs at least.

Bubble Gum Pheno's: I came across 2 pheno's here.1 tastes of grapes with hints of lemon that when smoked it leaves a menthol coolness on the exhale.Yet she smells of Grapes and skunk.Its a very unique smell that is like a love hate realation ship.I found my self taking smell tests and thinking Man the stuff stinks but yet I was intigued by the smell that I had a hard time putting the bud down
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The 2nd pheno is Skuny,hashy and earthy.The smoke from this gal reminds me of the classic skunk weed with the hashy undertones from back in the day but yet she is very,very smooth tasting.She almost has no taste to her at all.I realy had a hard time figuring this one out and this is about the best description that I could come up with.
The high both of these pheno's are very up lifting / motivating as well.Although not as potent compared to the Lemon pheno's I would say these are good day time or all day smokes.

Bubble Hash

So I made a batch of Bubble from all the pop corn buds and trim.Let me say this,its some of the nicest hash I have made to date.She taste of Spicy hash and hints of lemon that just roll off the tongue when exhaled.The High is top shelf with its extreme potentcy could easily put the most experianced smokes on there ass guarantied.The beauty part is you don't even see it comong.It seems to come on a bit slow but then by the time you take your 3rd to 4th toke thats when it hits you and leaves you with a holy crap expression on your face.Best to leave this to late night as it will put you out to pasture for the night easily.

Thanks for bringing the Space Dawg to the masses Sub Cool.I realy enjoyed the experiance that came from them

later
Ocan.
 

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subcool

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Snowdawg
By Subcool


There is a great deal of interest in the strains created by the grower Chemdawg. The story goes like this. At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.

In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of. The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'. Chemdog still has two seeds left in his stash.

Chemdog' and friends made several other crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are:

1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

In August of 2006 Chemdog came out to visit Mzjill and myself to swap stories and have a smoke out. It was a fantastic party with late night bubble sessions and everyone got along great and Jills cookies worked her magic. Chem is a super nice guy as is his entire family and we hit if off like old friends. During the festivities Chem and I slipped upstairs and traded some goodies so that I could do one of my famous Live Photo/Taste sessions.
It went on to be one of the most viewed threads at the time at Breedbay. You can view the original thread in the Hall of Fame @

http://www.breedbay.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=3556&highlight=chemdawg.

Chem was more than generous giving me the largest buds of many of the samples. The quality of each sample was very good. Cured well and not green even shipped around theses samples were all top shelf. These are the strains he had with him.

Super Snow Dawg
Sour Diesel
Giezil
OG Kush
Chemdawgs Sister
Mass Super Skunk
Mendo Purps
Chemdawg D
Chemdawg
Genius
Jacks Cleaner
Genius
Jacks Cleaner
Purple Kush
Master Kush
Dawg Days
Head band

Now we had a proper smoke out but I am better judging at my own speed with a clean bong and some strong coffee early in the morning. I can test two strains per day properly any more and the high’s just mix together and you can’t tell the slight differences in each bud sample. My Original Toke notes from

Snodawg
Ok first hit….
The flavor is not really something I can put a name on other than I really loved the initial intake. It kind of reminds me of the White Russian sample I had at Ruskia before WR started sucking. I coughed a few times and then smiled let me dive into this a bit.
I really like this but it would be nice if I could describe its flavor to you guys I am gonna have to stick with DANK for now.
Hit #2
Slight skunk on my finger tips, if all the samples are this good this is going to be a warm up to the Cannabis cup except with Real Cannabis! Its totally yummy now that my lungs have warmed up but the delicious taste just came through in and out I like this bud a lot and I am already stoned as hell and considering the amount of THC we consumed last night that’s pretty impressive.
Hit #3
Sub takes a breath, hey it’s hard work but it is my job to bring you the latest Cannabis info… The third bowl brought tears to my eyes so it must be some pretty serious dank I am trying to move to the second strain but I am gonna enjoy this buzz awhile.
Chemdawg
The second strain I decided to test was the famous Chemdawg that draws so much attention. It’s the strain on every growers to do list right now. It is a heavy Indica with a crushing stone. It has a much different smell than the Snowdawg I can catch traces of pungent funk similar to the Grimm stuff. Sample appears to have been grown a good while ago and leans towards golden rather than green. A very well cured bud.
This smoke is thicker and burned my nose at first then I coughed really hard. Ok either its considerably stronger or the fact I am 4 bowls deep at 8 am but I am pretty stoned, I can feel the tug of the 4th bowl over the first three but I liked the flavor of the Snowdawg more at this point.

Giesel

This is a Pheno that has a more pungent smell and taste and to me I taste Cindy99 in it but that’s just a flavor now I associate with fruity type sour strains. Although similar to the Dawg itself I think I like this one as much if not more. If I am not as in depth now on the thread it’s because I am stoned as shit!

Second Try:
To be honest this is more sour tasting to me than the SD and it has a nice spicy undertone and I am going to say this may be my second favorite. I am going to have a few bowls of this, as this is promising, I was so high this am by this one I couldn’t tell.
Second hit
Although the smoke is super thick I don't have any problems holding in a large hit, the buzz is very nice and the exhale is pleasant.

Sour Diesel
I found it to be really more dieselish that anything and certainly not that sour based on my gear but it left that oily taste on my tongue I heard about and it hit me pretty hard in the back of the head. This is where I had to take a small break. Basically ripped out of my gourd on everything. After a brief nap and smoked more of the SD in the afternoon, later after a shower with clean head, I like the buzz but It’s not a sweet enough strain for me so far the Snowdawg is my favorite.

The SD reminds me of thick old Shrimp Boat Colombo from the bilge but that makes the sample sound shitty and you can see by the pics that’s far from the case. It is very hard to judge Chems weed because it keeps fucking me up. By Hit three I find it hard to continue.

Chem Dog D
I'd like to again thank Chemdawg its been a long time since I had this many samples it will takes a few more days to complete this so don't bail on me some of the more interesting ones I am saving to do solo.
Excellent rock hard sample
Now this smells like diesel big time like an old dirty rag in a gas station with a hint of garlic underneath. Very peculiar.
Hit #1 ( First of the Day)
Like many of Chems selections the smoke is think and oily instead of light and fruity, A slight burn in my sinuses is present and I am instantly stoned.
It seems Chems focus has been on insanely potent strains.

If I do a report on everything he brought it would take up the whole magazine so I am focusing on the most well known of his strains mainly Snodawg.

Other strains I liked were Headband and of coarse the genius sample was just amazing. The Sister was very similar to the ChemD and it was getting very hard for me to tell the strains apart by this time. Other than the Headband and Snodawg I found most of the samples very similar. The ChemD was so strong we started calling it ‘Goobers Rag” as it really did smell like one of those old red rags a station attendant will carry in his back pocket. Over the next year I had the opportunity to grow out several of these crosses but I am really a taste guy and the thick oily flavors of most of this gear just didn’t suit me but the one strain Snodawg was hard for me to forget, as a grower I always am curious as to what a elite cut will taste like grown by me in my soil.

Early this year I was able to grab a cutting of the Snodawg and set about growing her out.
She grew easily and also cloned very fast. The plant stays short in veg and once topped she forms a really nice multi headed bush without much training at all. Once placed into 12/12 her stretch is minimal and she only increases in height about 30%. She has very wide Indica shaped leaves and I removed the larger ones to allow light to penetrate down to the lower second shelf buds.

The plant started fading by day 40, which indicates she is a heavy feeding plant as she was placed in my concentrated Super Soil that has plenty of nutrients for most of the varieties I grow. I top dressed the container with more super soil and gave her a feeding to slow down the yellowing and on future runs I will increase the amount of concentrate I use on her. By day 60 she had a beautiful Red and Yellow fade and just a really nice fruity Indica smell. The buds were full and hard and we harvested her at day 65 when about 40% of her Trichomes had turned amber. The buds were air dried for 7 days then placed in open glass jars until the stems started snapping when bent. This indicates enough moisture has evaporated and its now time to place lids on the jar. After 3 weeks the buds had loft all of there green smell and now had a slightly fruity smell that reminded me a lot of White Widow. The smoke is very think and Oily and Strong, just a few bowls and you are very high! We smoked a joint at week 4 curing and it was hard to finish between two of us and afterwards we sat still just staring off into space for a good hour. I still think the cross could use more resin as it makes very little Sugar leaf but this is common for dense buds like this.
 

subcool

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Space Dawg Part2

I decided to create this Space-dawg and give all the seeds away for free. A certain smartass breeder that sells a Snowdawg BX pissed me off and it inspired me to shake up things, make a better Snowdawg hybrid and just give it away. In Snowdawg part 1 I detailed its creation as well as the history of many of Chemdawgs other famous strains. During a visit from Chem I was able to sample a large variety and I wrote a article based on this experience. The first story covered strains like:
Super Snow Dawg
Sour Diesel
Giezil
Sister
OG Kush
Chemdawgs Sister
Mass Super Skunk
Chemdawg D
Chemdawg
Dawg Days
Head band
In the first article I used information I found by doing research online. I found a post that detailed how Wonkanobe and Pbud met chemdawg and sold him an ounce of high quality pot for 500$ He found a few seeds in some of the buds and popped the first 4 seeds. The information went into detail about the following crosses:
1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

I like Cannabis history to be very accurate so I quoted the information verbatim. When the article came out in Skunk someone named “High & Lonesome” contacted Mamakind and accused me of stealing the entire article. The facts are I used 274 words that I took from online and actually wrote 1651 words myself. Regardless I made things write and he was paid at my rate for every word. He declined a signed book from me as he considers me a hack. I wanted the real story to come out to clear my name, I am never at a loss for words I just wanted the facts to be correct. Personally I think the guys a moron admitting to a cash drug deal and maybe that’s why the article was filed under “Guest” and not a Nickname I could name as a resource.
The Snodawg was my favorite of the samples by far and I was hoping to improve the resin profile and increase the speed of vegative growth. I choose our Space Queen male, knowing he would increase the potency based on his contributions to other crosses he has been part of. Over the last several months we have collected test data from growers and I am very happy with the results.

I would like to thank Ocanabis one of my official testers for all the hard work and amazing photography on this project. A predict you will see more of his talented pictures in print very soon. Other growers helped me with grow reports and smoke reports and I would like to thank all of them as well. Over 200 growers received a pack of Space-Dawgs absolutely free in different contest or giveaways put on by TGA distributors. I also donated a huge sack of seeds to the local medical co-op OGF.

The first grow reports appeared online in October as the first seeds started poking through the soil, Ocanabis started just 6 seeds and had a 100% germ rate. They were grown under a 200 Watt CFL and remained there for the first few weeks until transplanting where they were moved under a 400watt Metal Halide for more vegging and training. After the first week they were fed using Advanced Nutrients line of organics as well as Fulvic and Humic Acids. These are to promote a stronger root and stem structure. At just two weeks the plants were very wide and stocky with nice thick stems. Three of the plants were perfect and 2 had slight mutations possible damage during the seedling stage. After 16 days of Vegative growth Ocanabis had them on the following nutrient schedule:

Mix per 4 liters of water

4 ml Fulvic
4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
60 ml Met Tea-Grow
5 ml B. Strap Mollases
5 ml L. Karma
PH at 6.4-6.5

Fed once a week and water in between

Day 40 revealed 3 nice females with 3 un-indicated as of yet and all had a short Indica look with wide fan leaves and nice side branching. After 52 days of growth another plant indicated female and Ocanabis added some Iguana Juice to his regiment. All of the plants were very uniform bushes with tight internodes and very sturdy stems. They had now reached the point where the growing shoots had alternating nodes indicated sexual maturity. The plants were officially placed into bloom at the 60 day mark under 1200 watts of HPS Power. After just a few days in the new area the last female indicated making five females from six seeds tested.

Once the plant had been budding for 2 weeks a new feeding schedule was implemented.
Mix pr 4 l (1 gal) water

4 ml Fulvic
4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
40 ml Met Tea- Bloom
4 ml Iguana Juice-Bloom
5 ml Molases
Ph is/was adjusted to 6.4
The plants responded well and visible trichomes were already forming as the first buds starting filling in. After 4 weeks of budding the plants started taking on characteristics that allowed Ocanabis to start selecting his favorite plants based on smell and structure. He described it as the smell of Juicy Fruit Gum only 10X stronger! The plants all formed nice bushes with four main branches and a large number of both inner and outer lower branching.
After 6 weeks in blooming the plants looked incredible taking on attributes of Snowdawgs smell and Space Queens resin profile. The fruity aromas got stronger and the resin completely covered all of the plants making them look like they were covered in morning Dew but in fact it was THC latent resin! Even the outer fan leaves had resin. At day 46 Ocanabis started his final flush and also used stakes to help support the colas that were starting to sag under their own weight. He reported smells ranging from Bubblegum to Lemon Candy and also Fruit Punch, he was having a very hard time picking his favorite at this point.
Harvest day came at day 57 or 8 weeks just the time we like all of our hybrids to finish at. A plant has to be ultra special to warrant longer than 9 weeks in our gardens. All of the females looked like they were covered in Diamond Dust at harvest and even the smallest yielding plant was encrusted with resin and had a thick smell.
The first smoke report on this strain was turned in by Janjaweed a grower at the forums on Breedbay and he was also very impressed. This is his smoke report:
SMOKE REPORT
<10> Potency
<10> Taste
<10> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<8> Indica Influence
<5> Sativa Influence
<1> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<2> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<10> Overall Satisfaction
COMMENTS:
These buds are tasty and full of flavor, but they are also very potent so
much that it numbs your head and after a few bowls my teeth were numb, like i had just been to the dentist
chunks of analgesic grapefruit, more of Indica effect. if you have pain this will kill it lol
people with low tolerance should be careful not to over indulge as it may cause them green outs and nausea.
Medicinal Strength: 11++
KEEPER?
<X> YES, favorite is staying indefinitely.

Everyone seems to love this strain and that makes this project to me very rewarding. My main goal was to work with Chems Snowdawg and see if I could improve its resin profile somewhat and we were very successful. My other goal was to simply do something no other Breeder had done before than I know of, to create a new strain for the fun of it and give every seed away to the growing community. The cries to make more have already started but I have already passed the mother plant on to another medical grower who likes Indicas. For me the fun was gifting something to people that others charge way too much for in my opinion. The fact that everyone that’s grown it so far is so impressed with the cross is well, Gravy on a biscuit!
 

hybridbuds

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I think you and chem hold the future of super hybrid cannabis within your genetics. Both of you guys have bred amazing plants. Will space dawg ever be released in seed form?
 

littleflavio

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hey sub i have never grown your seeds and was very impressed how you interact with us, currently been dying to get your products. im still really confused on what to order since theres so much of your products i want to get my hands to. if theres a way i can drop you a private massage if i have questions pls let me know im pretty sure ur very busy and im grateful that u still have the time to drop by of the forum. i was going to order 10 seeds of jilly bean and 6 seeds of querkle. and im hoping to at least get some males out of it. and i heard people getting 10 seeds and turning all out to be a female. whats the probability base on your experience on these situation?
 

resinraider

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hey sub, lil help??? im intrested in jillybean, the flav, and the cheese quake.. ill be doin a 3 week rolling perpetual... do 2 of those strains have similar height/growth patterns that would alow me to run 2 at the same time with out running into canopy problems??? also, can u elaborate on the flavs taste??? theres not much dteail on it in any disriptions i have read... oh and which r ezer to root clones off... thnx!
 

ocanabis

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yet another TGA classic
 

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ocanabis

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Sub had gifted me a few of these seeds and I came out with a lovely Champaige pheno
 

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