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DLOPEZ1420

DLOPEZ1420

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Very nicej.. That AOS is no joke. I hope u kept some clonrs. Been qith me almost 3 years.. i wont every let her go..

Here she is at Day 54. I let mine go to 60-63 days..



Here she is dried up



Berry Sour Tart Funk
i takeum dow with full cloudy.. just my preference. I do this because after harvest.. after drying, while curing.. the trichom heads continue to mature and end up right where i want them. 70%cloudy and 30%amber. Wait till u smoke that Ace for the first time..She packs a powerful punch.

Nice pheno by the way..

To those who say they cant find a keeper unless the pop 20..lolz..

Grow some Ace of Spades and tell me TGA aint got dank. It will not happen...


4/5 beans where female and all hose females where dank as hell
 
radrolley

radrolley

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hyroot said:
With tga you have to run the clones. Different better traits come out in the clones that are not present in the plants from seed. I've seen them improve 10 times over in clone form.
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are you sure about that? for cloning in anything the genetics should be almost exact. then when you clone from a clone from a clone from a clone etc, they usually start weakening. if your future clone generations are getting better it could be because you are getting better at growing, your environment for that plant's needs is better, or both. i was always told a rough example of cloning is like making a copy of a piece of paper. you keep on making copies of copies and eventually you get little artifacts, defects, or whatever you call it. it doesnt look as pretty. they say it takes a very long time though. i know it's like comparing apples to oranges but it sort of makes sense. contradictory with that being said from my own experience i've had the same chernobyl for about 3 years now. shes been cloned over oh i dunno at least 20 times probably a lot more. i have noticed no change in it except when my conditions or feeding is different. at the same time though, i will be happy to keep showing her off in 20 years after being cloned 500 times no fuck it thousands of times over who knows.

as far as seeds. you are are not getting the same genetics but very similar. more seeds, more chance or a superior plant with similar genetics. clone is just a copy and you want to copy the most superior.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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radrolley said:
are you sure about that? for cloning in anything the genetics should be almost exact. then when you clone from a clone from a clone from a clone etc, they usually start weakening. if your future clone generations are getting better it could be because you are getting better at growing, your environment for that plant's needs is better, or both. i was always told a rough example of cloning is like making a copy of a piece of paper. you keep on making copies of copies and eventually you get little artifacts, defects, or whatever you call it. it doesnt look as pretty. they say it takes a very long time though. i know it's like comparing apples to oranges but it sort of makes sense. contradictory with that being said from my own experience i've had the same chernobyl for about 3 years now. shes been cloned over oh i dunno at least 20 times probably a lot more. i have noticed no change in it except when my conditions or feeding is different. at the same time though, i will be happy to keep showing her off in 20 years after being cloned 500 times no fuck it thousands of times over who knows.

as far as seeds. you are are not getting the same genetics but very similar. more seeds, more chance or a superior plant with similar genetics. clone is just a copy and you want to copy the most superior.
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Recessive traits. Yes I'm very sure. The seeds always vary from the clones. But generation after generation of clones stay the same. They just differ from the seed by far
 
radrolley

radrolley

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DLOPEZ1420 said:
@radrolley where do u do ur testing?
Are they discreet?
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UPGC labs. http://upgclabs.com very discreet, they treat any records like medical records. if you check several pages back i have pics of records from there. might even be able to through the mail but im not sure how it works that way if they do. might have to be in the state and provide legality. i dont think they really do much with their website and i know it's far outdated. they have a much more advanced machine now that tests for more than just thc and cbds.
 
radrolley

radrolley

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hyroot said:
Recessive traits. Yes I'm very sure. The seeds always vary from the clones. But generation after generation of clones stay the same. They just differ from the seed by far
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i hope you're right cause 20 years from now im gonna have this same exact chernobyl cutting that i started from seeds a few years ago. not sure the exact date but i have records of all my old plants stashed away somewhere.
 
King Arthur

King Arthur

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radrolley said:
are you sure about that? for cloning in anything the genetics should be almost exact. then when you clone from a clone from a clone from a clone etc, they usually start weakening. if your future clone generations are getting better it could be because you are getting better at growing, your environment for that plant's needs is better, or both. i was always told a rough example of cloning is like making a copy of a piece of paper. you keep on making copies of copies and eventually you get little artifacts, defects, or whatever you call it. it doesnt look as pretty. they say it takes a very long time though. i know it's like comparing apples to oranges but it sort of makes sense. contradictory with that being said from my own experience i've had the same chernobyl for about 3 years now. shes been cloned over oh i dunno at least 20 times probably a lot more. i have noticed no change in it except when my conditions or feeding is different. at the same time though, i will be happy to keep showing her off in 20 years after being cloned 500 times no fuck it thousands of times over who knows.

as far as seeds. you are are not getting the same genetics but very similar. more seeds, more chance or a superior plant with similar genetics. clone is just a copy and you want to copy the most superior.
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Not sure you know this but some of the dankest weed that still wins cups is from a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut.

I don't buy into the hype bro.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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radrolley said:
i hope you're right cause 20 years from now im gonna have this same exact chernobyl cutting that i started from seeds a few years ago. not sure the exact date but i have records of all my old plants stashed away somewhere.
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You should pop some more chernobyl for males. And makes some f2's so you'll have a pile.of seeds of chernobyl 20 years from now. Maybe do some more back crossing to get the pheno you want.
 
radrolley

radrolley

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King Arthur said:
Not sure you know this but some of the dankest weed that still wins cups is from a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut of a cut.

I don't buy into the hype bro.
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glad to hear. just always thought i read clones degrade over time and you need to eventually go from seed again but it takes a very long time. thanks for the info. what are your thoughts on gmo weed?

actually with chernobyl i love the pheno i got from just 1 seed(technically 1 female 2 males). im really not one to buy into the hype but i thought i've read that before from several sources. i would have to re-research to find them sometime to be sure though. and even then, i dont always believe sources 100% of the time. i want to say one article was from a gardening magazine about tomato plants. only been a few years of keeping this cutting from seed which i would consider too early to tell. so far it seems like they're always the same but adjust with conditions. im in the houghton mi area and we get very cold winters like -20F even. shitty hot humid summers. my pic is actually one of the chernobyl clones and none of them get purple leaves like this anymore but i believe back then i had much colder conditions and it was during a winter grow. now i always keep my rooms warm though to prevent mold. although this chernobyl cutting has been very mold resistant. my only dislike is the yield is on the low side but makes up in quality. it's not that lime pheno but almost like a hash plant. had it tested a few times and it was always 24-25%. discovered it in a high times. i really liked the looks of a pic especially the crystals. the name sounded cool too. had to give it a try. the hype got me that time but ended up being rewarding.

had a jtr pheno that i really liked too. was fast like 8-9 weeks for how sativa it looked. lost her from mislabeling clones i gave away which no one kept. it has one of my favorite flavors. i got a new one but it's more like 12 weeks so i'm letting it go. im going to miss the taste but i had a male, kept the pollen, and got some nice lemon haze crossed with it. it tastes like both of them mixed. got tons of seeds. got out of control so now i got a bunch of strains that are crossed with jtr. i still have the pollen in a freezer bag not sure how long it is good for.
 
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radrolley

radrolley

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back when i got a shit ton of seeds from growing a male JTR, i threw a lot of the seeds into the old soil. added a layer to my garden and parts of the yard that needed fill in. damn things started growing wild. this pic here i had about 20 pop up in my vegetable garden. i picked them out and threw them. what do ya know like 6 of them made it. no clue what they are but good chance JTR is the daddy. looks like strong sativa. i used to always throw commercial seeds as a kid in the woods and never had them come up. only time was once my friend had a tiny plant growing under his deck never seen one so small. the roots were even growing into cigarette butts. it actually flowered, yielding less than a gram. anyways not really taking care if it and it might even get eaten by deerts. i'll keep pics though
 

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radrolley

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Mohican said:
Hahaha - smoke a doobie and then walk the hemp maze!
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after taking some shrooms or lsd which i only do on extreme rare occasions these days. probably gonna get lost anyway. i always think im going to freak out in public but never do. it's kind of a fun relieving feeling afterwards.
 
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