TGA Strains Stable?

I just grew out 12 beautiful querkle plants over the past few monthes and none of them hermied on me. Damn you Sub.. Querkle is a strain that has 2 distinct phenos. I guess thats too much work for some of you lazy turds.

Da Almighty Jew said:

I just grew out 12 beautiful querkle plants over the past few monthes and none of them hermied on me. Damn you Sub.. Querkle is a strain that has 2 distinct phenos. I guess thats too much work for some of you lazy turds.

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I really looked forward to a querkle grow and picked up 2 from pick and mix hoping for 50/50 male/female ratio. Unfortunately both were males. I have a long list of things already but at some point I would like to pick up a larger pack and try it out.

grandaddydank said:

hey an actual report! are you keeping the hermed Bubba? maybe set it aside and do a selfed run for seed? We run selfed seeds in a separate area when available (current - Pp x Sd S1s). Never tried the TGA Bubba. I believe he uses some Jacks Qleaner or JTR in the Ripped Bubba, along with space queen I think.

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Well these are my first runs of the RB from seed so I'll have to sample them then I'll decide what to keep and what not to keep. The pheno with the 4-5 nanners looks pretty good but the other two look really nice. One is a more Bubba dominant pheno while the other is a more JTR dominant pheno. Both are EXTREMELY frosty. The Bubba dominant has almost zero stretch while the JTR dominant stretches a bit more obviously...

I don't get all the Subcool hate. You buy a pack of seeds. You grow them out. You select a pheno that is stable and appeals to the high/medical effects you desire....it takes WORK. You can't just pop 1 bean and find a keeper. Cannabis NATURALLY hermies to reproduce itself. You can't really breed that out....

typoerror said:

hmm. my last grow i had a hermie pop out 4 pollen sacks. they all went unnoticed. when i chopped, i had 12 beautiful seeds. 3 fans blowing inside a 3x3 tent and i only got 12 seeds from two plants. the male flowers you speak of must have 6 pounds of pollen!

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When did your flowers open? Did you give those seeds 5 weeks to fully develop? Male flowers are more of an issue for those of us who are perpetual.

Sorry, I just don't believe TGA is as bad as many of you on here claim. Most of you seem to go overboard with too much emotional bent that disses your suggestions. So how did Sub get where he is if he's so much half baked BS? I've seen super stable Hindu Kush have variations that range more than most would expect. In the old school days before all the hybrids were heard of it was a given that seeds from a bag of Lumbo or Hawaiian would display a considerable range in the plants. In fact I've yet to see a stable strain that would fit the apparent expectations of most of these posters. The few naners I get from time to time don't ever riddle my entire grow with seeds. Evidently y'all are either full of it, are exagerating or don't know how to grow. In fact I like an occasional naner that's short the male chomosome to produce a few female seeds for me (I save the pollen for the next crop so seeds have time to develop). Those seeds don't typically replicate anything more than the same degree of nanerism, a few male flowers that really pose no problem to my grow.
I'm running some Qrazy Train right now and having zero problems, and my female ratio was well within an acceptable range of 60%.

Trulife69 said:

How shitty is it to start out growing and getting subs seeds and have no idea they are unstable...then all of a sudden your throwing naners and growing seeds in all your plants..People need to know that instead of just watching weed nerd looking at sub's little pink glasses shaking his goatee to butt rock.

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^^lol... that's sig worthy!

Subtool's penchant for editing posts and terrible classic & modern corporate radio rock knows no bounds.

homebrewer said:

When did your flowers open? Did you give those seeds 5 weeks to fully develop? Male flowers are more of an issue for those of us who are perpetual.

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they are fully formed. big and tiger striped.

what do you mean by "Male flowers are more of an issue for those of us who are perpetual."? or are you confusing perpetual with elite?

typoerror said:

they are fully formed. big and tiger striped.

what do you mean by "Male flowers are more of an issue for those of us who are perpetual."? or are you confusing perpetual with elite?

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I think my statement was pretty clear. You either don't know what perpetual means or don't know that seeds take a few weeks to develop into something damaging.

Jar Man said:

Sorry, I just don't believe TGA is as bad as many of you on here claim. Most of you seem to go overboard with too much emotional bent that disses your suggestions. So how did Sub get where he is if he's so much half baked BS?

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So by this argument we should all be sat here arguing that Aarjan truly is the king of cannabis right? I mean how did he get where he is today? He must be a super tallented breeder. No, like with sub, he is an advertiser, and like sub, a good one.

BA142 said:

Well these are my first runs of the RB from seed so I'll have to sample them then I'll decide what to keep and what not to keep. The pheno with the 4-5 nanners looks pretty good but the other two look really nice. One is a more Bubba dominant pheno while the other is a more JTR dominant pheno. Both are EXTREMELY frosty. The Bubba dominant has almost zero stretch while the JTR dominant stretches a bit more obviously...

I don't get all the Subcool hate. You buy a pack of seeds. You grow them out. You select a pheno that is stable and appeals to the high/medical effects you desire....it takes WORK. You can't just pop 1 bean and find a keeper. Cannabis NATURALLY hermies to reproduce itself. You can't really breed that out....

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right on, and yea I don't hate on sub really, I just dont want to pay his prices, especially since I can reproduce the same breeding facility myself with my camp. good luck with the harvest, I am curious to the end results, BK fiend here.

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it would be interesting for subcool to chime in and tell us his thoughts on all these hermi beans....

It's always seemed to me that Sub is only a member of TGA, not the primary breeder or grower at all. If you watch the school of dank vids, or any of his growing "tips" clips, hes usually asking Dioxide for help, which leads me to believe Dioxide is really the one running the grows. No offense meant to Sub or Sub lovers, but I have to agree, he is a business man primarily, just like Arjan, Ben, Eddie, many others. We have tried to become test growers for TGA gear with no response from TGA, and I personally dislike Sub's negativity sometimes on his clips or posts. A shame, we've had to clone clones of our Ap x Vx after our extension room was attacked by bears.

Also, I do know Mosca keeps a good rep for the most part, and they do carry C99 genetics among others. If you are a Bros Grimm diehard, and want to avoid TGA gear, Mosca's C99 BX-1 is supposedly pretty decent. I have yet to experience their genetics however.

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I wonder did hermies showed during testing because there is alot of hermies with multiple strains mainy the new releases.

grandaddydank said:

It's always seemed to me that Sub is only a member of TGA, not the primary breeder or grower at all. If you watch the school of dank vids, or any of his growing "tips" clips, hes usually asking Dioxide for help, which leads me to believe Dioxide is really the one running the grows. No offense meant to Sub or Sub lovers, but I have to agree, he is a business man primarily, just like Arjan, Ben, Eddie, many others. We have tried to become test growers for TGA gear with no response from TGA, and I personally dislike Sub's negativity sometimes on his clips or posts. A shame, we've had to clone clones of our Ap x Vx after our extension room was attacked by bears.

Also, I do know Mosca keeps a good rep for the most part, and they do carry C99 genetics among others. If you are a Bros Grimm diehard, and want to avoid TGA gear, Mosca's C99 BX-1 is supposedly pretty decent. I have yet to experience their genetics however.

The Smoking Man

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what board is dioxide on?

what i saw of the school of dank vids were sub too stoned to wipe his own ass incoherently waxing on about the dankness of the buds
ie : look at this dank bud...now look at this dank bud.... oh hey man remember this dank bud.....now bring up a picture of this dank bud

ida beat fuck out of that cat if ida paid a ticket and drove 3000 miles...dank bud.....rofl

Da Almighty Jew said:

How many TGA plants have you grown out fucktard?

Oh i just checked your previous posts you have never tried TGA. Get out of this thread you idiot your opinions have no merit.

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Are you new to growing mate? definitely comes across that way. I haven't grown out any of subs gear, would I? no is the answer. Nothing to do with sub or any of his employee's, the reason is very clear why mate. I wouldn't want to pheno hunt and sex every pack of seeds in the hope of maybe finding a keeper, 3-4months from seed per crop is an expensive gamble if you don't find a keeper and even if you do find one what about the rest of the crop? growing out TGA's gear is a gamble to many including myself mate and I'm not a gambling man especially when you consider the other options out there?
I'm a fan of serious seeds myself grow out a pack of there fems alongside a pack of TGA's gear and see the difference mate, very uniform and solid genetics that will grow through hell and back without herming on you.
I think many are quick to bash sub because they see the dice on the table and don't fancy rolling them at the prices he is charging, especially those that need and pay for reliable seed stock to have some reliable smoke at the end of their 3-4month seed run.

very true when I can buy ak-47 and deffinetly have killer smoke for same price as all the tga strains why would I bother growing his crap

W Dragon said:

Are you new to growing mate? definitely comes across that way. I haven't grown out any of subs gear, would I? no is the answer. Nothing to do with sub or any of his employee's, the reason is very clear why mate. I wouldn't want to pheno hunt and sex every pack of seeds in the hope of maybe finding a keeper, 3-4months from seed per crop is an expensive gamble if you don't find a keeper and even if you do find one what about the rest of the crop? growing out TGA's gear is a gamble to many including myself mate and I'm not a gambling man especially when you consider the other options out there?
I'm a fan of serious seeds myself grow out a pack of there fems alongside a pack of TGA's gear and see the difference mate, very uniform and solid genetics that will grow through hell and back without herming on you.
I think many are quick to bash sub because they see the dice on the table and don't fancy rolling them at the prices he is charging, especially those that need and pay for reliable seed stock to have some reliable smoke at the end of their 3-4month seed run.

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I grew out TGA's jilly bean and even though the plant grew well and looked like all the pics TGA has of Jilly Bean it produced zero smell/taste its the weirdest thing I have ever came across smells like plastic, is that considered unstable?

I like tga vortex and found 2 keepers phenos in a ten pack - vortex was actually the first buds to get smoked and finished in 55 days. I've also grown 10 or so packs of fems from various breeders. My fav was my dinafem blue hash - amazing plant with huge leaves and great hash taste with a hint of sweetness. The whole room of fems, i had some herms and kept some seeds to keep for a rainy day/fun. I liked a lot of the fems too but my goals are to make a few strains/lines that will thrive in my house/outside climate and to do that i need reg seeds. i have spent a couple grand i guess now on genetics and am done collecting genes. All plants only come from a few areas of the world orginally so if you work long enough you should unlock a lot of strains that are good for you.

As for tga's stuff being stable, i have no bias and yeah the guy might be a salesman, but his genetics are pretty darn good imo and i've had no probs yet on my second run on them (no herms, probs, etc.). Fems might work better from some, that's cool and good for yall. Good thing there are lots of options.

Blue Hash 38 days


Vortex (a11 pheno)



i'm gonna pop some ace of spades next grow, along with gear from: sannies, mr nice, bodhi, dynasty, and maybe gage green

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shagalicious said:

what board is dioxide on?

what i saw of the school of dank vids were sub too stoned to wipe his own ass incoherently waxing on about the dankness of the buds
ie : look at this dank bud...now look at this dank bud.... oh hey man remember this dank bud.....now bring up a picture of this dank bud

ida beat fuck out of that cat if ida paid a ticket and drove 3000 miles...dank bud.....rofl

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lol thats my impression as well, the whole first day was sub pumpin his strains and ooooh the urkel and look at this vortex and I love vortex I just love vortex......... Good look on vouch, still new to riu but we are here now. Will have some of our own crosses coming soon (Pp x Sd S1/Hermed Fem, Bk (not Katsu) x Gvt), not sure about sharing just yet but who knows. just getting over some major losses (out of our control; Moms, cuts, beans, equip).

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