tga subcool strongest strain?

phunt said:

Flavors are real good, yields for what I have grown except the void have been on the lower side.

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Really?

As said in previous post, all chernobyls have yielded well, jilly beans are huge yielders, ripped bubba and ace of spades also + yields, and agent orange as well. Timewreck yielded really well.........actually, the only TGA that didn't yield + avg was Space Bomb.

I try too reserve considering my other brothers gear, however I felt I needed too chime in on this one. Been out here in Colorado nearly two years now and nobody has tried them all however as a medical patient, I have smoked much and many of what's supposed too be the best. We have a dispensary down here that grows organic outdoor ever year and most of their stuff is sub's. I have probably smoked all of this mans strains and many different phenotypes within each genetic line and so I feel I can give some honest and unbiased feedback. Do not know the man, so let's remember that. Just his gear. Pros of sub's gear. Extreme resin producers, cacaphony of phenotypes too search for and god only knows what you may find and it can truly become a jewel of the Nile. Good females are good females and usually will not herm and sub has enough good sense too use males and I always respected that as he understands their value and doesn't obviously have loads of colloidal silver sitting around. Found a phenotype of agent orange one time that was amazing. Orange as could be even the stalk and stems and buds, possibly one of the best phenotypes of the strain. Found a Chernobyl one time that literally dripped with resin and cut early would nearly give a heart attack. Found a Pandora box, that was the closest phenotype too Mexican horny weed I've ever found and would make your wife run from you lol. Sub's got good stuff when you find it and give it high blue hid and plenty time on the vine too show the insane amounts of resin a select pheno will give grown organic. Organic, kudos too sub for that also. Now the con's. Yield wise, sub's stuff is not too impressive and I would love too work with you brother and help with your yields in your genetics. Unfortunately also, sub's genetics are pretty prone too herm until you find a good solid female and I've seen some mildew issues with some. Sub's bushes also don't have the real thick branches I like too see and that can be corrected as well with some old school added too his mix. Also, the fact that you have too search so hard for good pheno shows he's not stabilizing as he could. You go and buy a oz of crazy train today and loved it and next week you buy crazy train and its different. That's not good from consumer standpoint. So, best strains of his that seem too be the most stable when tried are: Jilly bean as I've only seen 4 -5 phenos and all similar and one is like pure candy and a joy too encounter. Agent orange, most popular out here and the one too look for is the true orange pheno and not the tangerine pheno and it will plant you for hours son. Ace of spades, seems too be pretty consistent and a nice balance of chemicals that could make this one his best and one I will grab quicker than any. Penny wise, this is a strain he needs too put some commitment into. Couple pheno not impressive, however a couple are very impressive and make wonderful smurf fudge. Jacks cleaner, as far as I'm concerned he could have stopped here lol. His best sativa period no questions. Just a few phenos however the one that has a nasty lemon pinesol scent is the one you want. You'll know it as it smells like a lemon hinny and isn't very pleasant too smell during early flower and drips resin and takes a while too ripen to even true THC stage but will melt your eyes out. One love sub and here if needed brother. Rev.thenatural

Amos Otis said:

Really?

As said in previous post, all chernobyls have yielded well, jilly beans are huge yielders, ripped bubba and ace of spades also + yields, and agent orange as well. Timewreck yielded really well.........actually, the only TGA that didn't yield + avg was Space Bomb.

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The only one of those i've tried is the chernobyl. Out of a five pack I had one had a decent yield. Sub uses mostly tropical varieties that are not meant to be big yielders, just good resin producers. Compare any of his stuff to a critical cross or a chunky indica and there will be no comparison in yield. You can produce good yields with time and training but you can do that with anything.

everyone keeps saying sub breeding or using....does he actually do his own breeding now? he always had others doing it. what tropical variety did he ever use?

phunt said:

The only one of those i've tried is the chernobyl. Out of a five pack I had one had a decent yield. Sub uses mostly tropical varieties that are not meant to be big yielders, just good resin producers. Compare any of his stuff to a critical cross or a chunky indica and there will be no comparison in yield. You can produce good yields with time and training but you can do that with anything.

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Nail on the head brother. Sub needs some wild oaxacan introduced too his Sativa's. I could help him on that. Oaxacan would take nothing from his grease machines and would add vigour and strength and yield gallore too his lineup. Flowering would be lengthened just a bit but so worth it and would still get medicinal in Colorado outdoors as the oaxacan would love this high elevation and closer proximity too the sun. Just imagine a jacks cleaner with buds like the hso blue dream ! He needs pure oaxacan for this and a male of course and would take nothing too minimal from his flavors and add everything too his effects and genetic strength for a new generation. Too many of his strains are like jack the ripper and his firsts are still his best. Blessings, rev.thenatural

I find my JTR to be quite strong, up and happy. Resinous too:

But this Void (aka Purple Apollo 13) is stronger:

elkamino said:

I find my JTR to be quite strong, up and happy. Resinous too:View attachment 3560613 View attachment 3560615

But this Void (aka Purple Apollo 13) is stronger:


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Another great example of how resinous sub's gear can get and it gets greasier still. They just need that wild kick put too em for the next 20 lol. Great job! Rev.

brimck325 said:

everyone keeps saying sub breeding or using....does he actually do his own breeding now? he always had others doing it. what tropical variety did he ever use?

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From what I understand dude is pretty sick. So most likely you're going to see more tga strains bred by others in the tga company. Most of his stuff is "tropical" or "sativa" narrow leaf cultivars. Could be more "indica" in there now his menu is getting pretty large.

phunt said:

Compare any of his stuff to a critical cross or a chunky indica and there will be no comparison in yield. You can produce good yields with time and training but you can do that with anything.

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I'm not a stockholder, friend, just stating my experiences. I've put no more time or training with TGA plants than any others - they all get treated to the same assembly line: x weeks in veg, then bloom to finish.

As for criticals - you bet - bigger yields. But a big yield of grade C crap isn't what I'm after, ya dig? So, I'll clarify - I've found the TGA plants I've run to consistently yield above avg compared to other strains I've run.

sub didn't do much if any breeding in the past. well, from a few years ago back i guess i should say. i stopped following him about 4-5 years ago.1 of the guys who did quite a bit of the behind the scene breeding stops around riu once in a while.

I know it's technically homegrown natural wonders, but does anyone have any experience with quantum kush?

questiondj42 said:

I know it's technically homegrown natural wonders, but does anyone have any experience with quantum kush?

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/quantum-kush-38-thc.839665/

a senile fungus said:

Are you in MI?

I had a clone only DQ that was very bushy, sweet stinky smell, fair yield but a pain to trim.

Tastes phenomenal and great high.

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Yes sir I am from MI, northeast part about an hour north of Flint.

My pheno of the DQ doesn't get real bushy unless I top it a few times. But as far as the trimming goes, the buds get nice and solid at the end so it's not too bad to trim compared to some other strains I run. This here is part of my outdoor grow this year. There's five plants in this pic and the two on the far left are Dairy Queens, which are bushy looking here, but each was topped six times or so before flowering set in.

Amos Otis said:

I'm not a stockholder, friend, just stating my experiences. I've put no more time or training with TGA plants than any others - they all get treated to the same assembly line: x weeks in veg, then bloom to finish.

As for criticals - you bet - bigger yields. But a big yield of grade C crap isn't what I'm after, ya dig? So, I'll clarify - I've found the TGA plants I've run to consistently yield above avg compared to other strains I've run.

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I'm in the same boat. I never meant his stuff yielded crap, i was comparing to commercial big bud yields. For grade A, I agree it yields better than a lot. I don't have a problem with any of the yields from the ones I've kept. The void and Timewreck yielded heaviest for me.

I got a better idea, instead of buying a crapshoot of seeds just go buy some LEDS and your resin will increase itself lol.

Rev.thenatural said:

Nail on the head brother. Sub needs some wild oaxacan introduced too his Sativa's. I could help him on that. Oaxacan would take nothing from his grease machines and would add vigour and strength and yield gallore too his lineup. Flowering would be lengthened just a bit but so worth it and would still get medicinal in Colorado outdoors as the oaxacan would love this high elevation and closer proximity too the sun. Just imagine a jacks cleaner with buds like the hso blue dream ! He needs pure oaxacan for this and a male of course and would take nothing too minimal from his flavors and add everything too his effects and genetic strength for a new generation. Too many of his strains are like jack the ripper and his firsts are still his best. Blessings, rev.thenatural

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Say i had the Oaxaca, would you be bañe yo cross them yourself?

Amos Otis said:

Very true.



I've ran several, and have never seen anything close to this small a yield. They've always yielded above avg for me [ dwc ].

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The other Chernobyl plants are going to yield more for sure.

10 Timewreck have arrived. Smoking 3d now.

Rev.thenatural said:

Nail on the head brother. Sub needs some wild oaxacan introduced too his Sativa's. I could help him on that. Oaxacan would take nothing from his grease machines and would add vigour and strength and yield gallore too his lineup. Flowering would be lengthened just a bit but so worth it and would still get medicinal in Colorado outdoors as the oaxacan would love this high elevation and closer proximity too the sun. Just imagine a jacks cleaner with buds like the hso blue dream ! He needs pure oaxacan for this and a male of course and would take nothing too minimal from his flavors and add everything too his effects and genetic strength for a new generation. Too many of his strains are like jack the ripper and his firsts are still his best. Blessings, rev.thenatural

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Last I heard he was working with some landrace Mexican.

dandyrandy said:

10 Timewreck have arrived. Smoking 3d now.

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How is the 3D ? I picked up a $25 5 pack not long ago.

phunt said:

I'm in the same boat. I never meant his stuff yielded crap, i was comparing to commercial big bud yields. For grade A, I agree it yields better than a lot. I don't have a problem with any of the yields from the ones I've kept. The void and Timewreck yielded heaviest for me.

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Also got a $25 pack of the void in the same sale. Good smoke?