That's The Ticket!..

schuylaar said:

that would be fine, we still need to revamp the tax code because the 1% should not get as many deductions plan and simple.

offshore is bullshit and nothing but tax evasion with the already lucrative loop holes they get.

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you're right.

since the righties want a flat tax so bad, we should give it to them.

all income above $250k subject to a 25% flat tax, no exceptions. all income above $800k taxd at 35%, no deductions no exceptions.

i mean, they are the ones crying for the flat tax after all, right?

ginwilly said:

I think a good way of making a consumption tax progressive is food items under X are tax free (tax the shit out of caviar, leave hamburger alone), clothing items under X are tax free (again, tax the shit out of designer handbags and 1000 dollar Italian shoes, leave my hanes underwear out of this), utilities under X are tax free (a good incentive to not waste and keep your bills under X, tax the shit out of those people with 20K worth of lights and waterfalls).

Certain necessities like food, clothing and shelter to a certain dollar amount being tax free would actually be a huge boost to the working poor, not a detriment like some will argue.

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no one wants your shitty regressive consumption tax. give it up and take your recruiting elsewhere.

schuylaar said:

but you can't do a flat 35% for someone who makes $30k.

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Sure you can, its called $3500. LOL yep, can't live on $26,500. But at $30k you got a comfy life, lol
Who said that you need to live a comfy life?

UncleBuck said:

you're right.

since the righties want a flat tax so bad, we should give it to them.

all income above $250k subject to a 25% flat tax, no exceptions. all income above $800k taxd at 35%, no deductions no exceptions.

i mean, they are the ones crying for the flat tax after all, right?

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precisely, none of this bullshit of reduction to 11%.

and that's not even all of their money.

that's just the money the US knows about.

NoDrama said:

Sure you can, its called $3500. LOL yep, can't live on $26,500. But at $30k you got a comfy life, lol
Who said that you need to live a comfy life?

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actually that's my SS figure at 70 it's well over $3k

THE biggest financial problem this country has is the 1%.

if everyone would pay the correct percentage, we'd ALL be a lot better off.

the 1% are selfish.

think about it, you have people that rake in money only to evade.

it's the 1% fault that we don't have a balanced budget.

just pay your fucking share 1% and farmboy too

schuylaar said:

but you can't do a flat 35% for someone who makes $30k.

let's just say to live life somewhat comfy in america you'd need to earn at least $50-60k single person..

to reduce someone's income by the same percentage you would higher incomes would still leave the lesser incomed struggling.

35% from $30k?

35% from $5M?..you could still live on that, easy..not so much for the guy who makes $30k.

you need a sliding scale flat.

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Sliding scale flat tax?

Verdict: Retarded.

schuylaar said:

think about it, you have people that rake in money only to evade.

it's the 1% fault that we don't have a balanced budget.

just pay your fucking share 1% and farmboy too

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pfft I don't make the 1% list my dear. A person needs to be worth at minimum $7 million to be in that club, I'm not even half way there. I might get a check for $900,000, but all my overhead and expenses turn that into less than 200K profit. Any other money I make by speculation or investment pretty much goes into my self directed IRA. You should tell the politicians to stop voting all these new tax loopholes into law instead of blaming the citizens who have no actual vote in the process.

How can you possibly change things? Some of these people are SOOO wealthy that they can't possibly spend it all even if they spent $1 million every day for the rest of their lives. They have SOO much wealth that they can invest in a bond that yields 1% and still not spend that 1% in their lifetime.

Harrekin said:

So let me see if I get this.

Non commercial entities wanting to do recreational fishing for recreational and non-commercial reasons need to get a license?

Thats SOOOOOO "land of the free".

We just buy bait.

EDIT: Recreational.

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Really? Ireland does not require a license for recreational fishing?

We luvs us some regulations in the US.

schuylaar said:

if you want to eat fish, you do.

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Sounds like an invitation to... Rrrrrape!

Calling Paddywhacker.

schuylaar said:

THE biggest financial problem this country has is the 1%.

if everyone would pay the correct percentage, we'd ALL be a lot better off.

the 1% are selfish.

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Really?

Funny, the US Government took in a RECORD amount of revenue this year and yet the debt and deficit continue to rise.

But yeah, the people that worked and earned the money are the selfish ones... ROFLMFAO!!!

We cant even get you to make enough to support yourself and yet you whine about others who do that and so much more....

NoDrama said:

Sure you can, its called $3500. LOL yep, can't live on $26,500. But at $30k you got a comfy life, lol
Who said that you need to live a comfy life?

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lol, nice math.

35% of $30k is not $3500.

NoDrama said:

pfft I don't make the 1% list my dear. A person needs to be worth at minimum $7 million to be in that club, I'm not even half way there.

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you said you were worth $30 million a few weeks ago.

good job at lying on the internet constantly.

desert dude said:

We luvs us some regulations in the US.

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i know you're a big fan of regulating women who want self-autonomy, because you love freedom so much.

NLXSK1 said:

Funny, the US Government took in a RECORD amount of revenue this year and yet the debt and deficit continue to rise.

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the deficit is continuing to rise, you say?

maybe try making a statement that is factual once in a while so that we actually have to search for the lies.

Until we have a straight flat tax it is never going to be fair. You will always have one class fighting against another which is coincidentally what the government wants.

Equal treatment under the law.... That has been twisted in knots.

If everyone had to pay 15% or whatever then the politicians would NEVER get it to move higher. That is why they create classes and divide and conquer and spend much more than they take in with a huge portion of it being wasted and then chastise the producers for not giving up enough to satisfy their never ending greed for power and money.

NLXSK1 said:

Until we have a straight flat tax it is never going to be fair. You will always have one class fighting against another which is coincidentally what the government wants.

Equal treatment under the law.... That has been twisted in knots.

If everyone had to pay 15% or whatever then the politicians would NEVER get it to move higher. That is why they create classes and divide and conquer and spend much more than they take in with a huge portion of it being wasted and then chastise the producers for not giving up enough to satisfy their never ending greed for power and money.

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i have a TV if i want to watch fox news talking points. give it a rest.

desert dude said:

Really? Ireland does not require a license for recreational fishing?

We luvs us some regulations in the US.

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Certain fish like our wild salmon require a €15 permit because they have "off-seasons" for spawning, but virtually all sea fishing and most river fishing require no permit.

America: Land of then Free (to follow regulations)

NoDrama said:

pfft I don't make the 1% list my dear. A person needs to be worth at minimum $7 million to be in that club, I'm not even half way there. I might get a check for $900,000, but all my overhead and expenses turn that into less than 200K profit. Any other money I make by speculation or investment pretty much goes into my self directed IRA. You should tell the politicians to stop voting all these new tax loopholes into law instead of blaming the citizens who have no actual vote in the process.

How can you possibly change things? Some of these people are SOOO wealthy that they can't possibly spend it all even if they spent $1 million every day for the rest of their lives. They have SOO much wealth that they can invest in a bond that yields 1% and still not spend that 1% in their lifetime.

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that is my point. there are so many loopholes (tax code) that all these monies taxability which could be used to reduce deficit (and then some) is not. it then falls to joe q. citizen who can least afford due to stagnant wages, ever increasing COLA etc.

now we have an amendment of dodd frank which allows then to continue the wealth on the backs of the joe q. citizen again. monies that never truly taxed because of the system that we just again changed back to pre-2007 october. wooohooo! derivitives! does joe q. citizen benefit? fuck no! but let me tell you..they fuck up and joe q. citizen takes it up the ass again.

remember this?:



it's 7.

EDIT: Not necessarily. I can easily construct a situation in which a taxpayer essentially enjoys no tax benefits whatsoever. How about the single individual or possibly a married couple without children, who make just enough to make ends meet but still cannot save to buy a house? Or possibly, they prefer renting to the onerous commitment of home ownership. There doesn’t appear to be any tax breaks for them.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/07/17/losers-mortgage-interest-deduction/