thc % for TGA gear??

were can i find the thc % for all the strains trying to make an informed decision short of googling them all individually is there a site with them listed?

really shouldnt base your choice on THC percentage. Theres more to it than that.

and each pheno might have a different percentage. just buy based on genetics.

vilify said:

really shouldnt base your choice on THC percentage. Theres more to it than that.

and each pheno might have a different percentage. just buy based on genetics.

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how did i know id get an answer like that good lookin buddy, im not basing it on that i would like to know what im working with shy of testing it so i can inform my patients better.. thanks though for the helpful info..and i know they can be higher and lower based on how it is grown and by who so i don't need to hear that also im lookin for ballpark figures here

UnderCoverAgentOrange said:

were can i find the thc % for all the strains trying to make an informed decision short of googling them all individually is there a site with them listed?

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You cant,
Cannabis is Federally illegal and they keep shutting down the test labs and wiping there data files.

Sub

http://tgagenetics.com/strain.php here but there's not all the percentages you're lookin for..just some

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were can i find the thc % for all the strains trying to make an informed decision short of googling them all individually is there a site with them listed?

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Not to my knowledge. There *are* individually held databases containing testing data (for example all strains tested by a given lab), but so far as I know, these are privately held.

You can google individual strains, and some of them will come up with THC measurements, but that information isn't going to be nearly as useful as you think.

For obvious reasons, you shouldn't accept published numbers from the seed sellers without a huge grain of salt.

Even assuming the published numbers actually represent real testing results (which you don't know for sure), if you were to simply pull randomly published measurements from the internet (or wherever), unless those measurements are done side by side in the same lab using the same technique, you can't really compare them fairly. Since THC testing is not standardized, there can be differences in measured THC content depending on which lab is doing the testing and how.

Next, published measurements should generally be considered the CEILING of THC potency of any given strain. That's because the tester is going to take the very best top bud from their very best phenotype plant, hand grown under ideal circumstances and picked at its absolute peak, carefully hand manicure it, and test only that. Even the rest of that SAME PLANT may not have quite as high THC levels as the tested sample.

YOUR grow of YOUR plant in YOUR growroom may not (and statistically speaking, probably WILL not) represent the absolutely most potent possible bud from any given plant.

Even simple phenotype selection matters a lot. I don't think any of TGA's strains are actually inbred lines, and that means you can expect some degree of variation in plants grown from seeds from the same pack.

If you say germinate 10 seeds from a pack, its entirely possible you'll only get 4 good females (or less!). Selecting from only four plants, there is a pretty good chance that NONE of them will be the best possible representation of the strain in question. That's why people looking for the "best" strains will often start with 2,3,4 packs of seeds to do their selection to find that "killer" plant to use as a mother for further cloning/propagation.

From this perspective, buying a high-quality clone from a known excellent phenotype (if you can) makes sense for a lot of reasons. Even if the clone costs 1/2 as much as a pack of seeds, you're way ahead of the game if its a great phenotype.

Yield matters too. Which would you rather have. . .a plant that puts out 1 ounce of 24% THC bud, or one that puts out 2 ounces of 18-20% THC bud?

I'd make the argument pretty strongly that a few percent difference in THC is, for practical purposes, meaningless.

Does it really make a difference if it takes 2.4 puffs to knock you on your ass vs 2 puffs? Any of these super-strong strains are PLENTY strong, even for seasoned smokers, and I'd say you should concentrate your selection based on other important factors, including flavor, yield, necessary length of grow, and difficulty of growing.

Jogro said:

For obvious reasons, you shouldn't accept published numbers from the seed sellers without a huge grain of salt.

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Just to be clear here, I am not in any way accusing Sub of shading the truth.

Even if we accept that Subcool is "Super cool", and that every number he's printed represents only data derived from blinded testing from the same reputable third party lab, you can't assume that EVERY breeder does that.

I can say with certainty that at least some of the numbers claimed by some of the seed sellers are effectively pulled out of their respective butts. Just look how many sellers are claiming 20-25% THC for their strains. Comparing their exaggerated or made-up numbers with actual lab data isn't going to be a meaningful exercise.

At best, you can use Sub's numbers to compare each one of his strains against his others, and that might be a useful exercise, if sheer potency were your main or only concern. Again, I'd just say that Sub probably doesn't have ANY strains that aren't pretty potent, and that other factors about the strain are probably more important in making a selection.

UnderCoverAgentOrange-
For what it is worth I kept the data sheets from when I tested two different Vortex phenotypes before FullSpectrumLabs got shut down. Vortex #1 leaned to Apollo side and Vortex #2 leaned to Spacequeen side.

Point Test
VORTEX #1
Form: Raw Plant Material
Notes:
PHYSICAL INSPECTION
Trichrome Color: Clear 0% Milky 0% Amber 0%
Foreign Material: None
Moisture Content: 10.28%
MICROBIOLOGICAL EXAMINATION
Assay not performed.
PESTICIDE SCREENING
Assay not performed.
HEAVY METALS
Assay not performed.
CANNABINOID PROFILE
Active Cannabinoids
CBD: <0.01%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 0.53%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Inactive Cannabinoids
CBD-A: 0.48%
THC-A: 23.21%
Calculated Active
Cannabinoids
CBD: 0.42%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 20.89%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Relative Ratio of
Active Cannabinoids
CBD: 0.2
CBN: 0
THC: 9.8
CBC: 0
THCV: 0
Total Assayable Cannabinoids: 24.22% Total: 21.31% Total: 10
Thank you for having your product tested by Full Spectrum Laboratories. The enclosed report details the results of the
testing performed on your product. This report shall not be reproduced, except in its entirety, without the written
approval of FSL. This report does not represent FSL Certification. The results relate only to those items tested.


TEST ID: 1100003
REPORT DATE: June 10th 2011
VALID THRU: July 14th 2011
Point Test
VORTEX #2
Form: Raw Plant Material
Details: Indoor Soil
Notes:
PHYSICAL INSPECTION
Trichrome Color: Clear 0% Milky 0% Amber 0%
Foreign Material: None
Moisture Content: 11.26%
MICROBIOLOGICAL EXAMINATION
Assay not performed.
PESTICIDE SCREENING
Assay not performed.
HEAVY METALS
Assay not performed.
CANNABINOID PROFILE
Active Cannabinoids
CBD: <0.01%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 0.26%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Inactive Cannabinoids
CBD-A: 0.39%
THC-A: 20.7%
Calculated Active
Cannabinoids
CBD: 0.34%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 18.42%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Relative Ratio of
Active Cannabinoids
CBD: 0.18
CBN: 0
THC: 9.82
CBC: 0
THCV: 0
Total Assayable Cannabinoids: 21.35% Total: 18.76% Total: 10
Thank you for having your product tested by Full Spectrum Laboratories. The enclosed report details the results of the
testing performed on your product. This report shall not be reproduced, except in its entirety, without the written
approval of FSL. This report does not represent FSL Certification. The results relate only to those items tested.

For the Record all of our numbers are actual real life test from Full Spectrum labs. Half the cats that worked there were growing TGA in there home gardens.

Now we use SteepHill and are moving to Halent labs who test for 7 Terpines I believe.

The numbers are to subjective IMO have one sample tested at 20 diff labs and you'll get 20 diff readings.
Wre looking more these days for rare cannabinoids like THCV and others instead of just shear potency.

Sub

good lookin guys those were answers i was more looking for i appreciate everyones timeand to jogro i appreciate your effort my man and trust me i look for flavor yield then potency but others are not the same ya dig..just trying to be more informed and not even for specific numbers but to back up legit levels as in high medium and low thc levels for reference

I can say as far as what Ive grown: chernobyl, jillybean, agent orange

They are all hovering near 20% +/- 3% While thats only 3 strains, it seems to be a pattern if the vortex tested near/at 20.
Wish I had my querkle, pandoras box, and qrazy train flowering so I could give you some more #'s. I would put querk and qrazy a bit lower on the THC, but higher CBD if i were to guess.

I LOVE growing chernobyl. Everyone loves the potency, and the buds are so dense, they take up half the space for storage. Would highly recommend it.

heres four lab tests from grower JessiJames, hope they dont mind I posted them here. All over 20%

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/subcools-old-school-organics/2078758d1332243826-ace-spades-ace-spades.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/smoke-reports/2080218d1332315592-vortex-tga-subcool-seeds-vortex.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/subcools-old-school-organics/2078756d1332243677-ripped-bubba-smoke-report-pics-ripped-bubba-2.jpg

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/subcools-old-school-organics/2080216d1332315312-chernobyl-phenotype-searching-chernobyl.jpg

This is why I don't put much faith in numbers
I am impressed and happy but in no way do I believe this.

I love how I can have a sample tested by three different companies, and get three different results. All from the same plant. IDk, maybe different levels of thc,cbd,cbn at different levels of a plant. Maybe one day science can point a finger on it. I really wanted to get testing done for peace of mind and for a little brag bash for when socializing with friends. In the end I still don't know what to believe, and have left it at that.

With that, Im with u on that. Not much faith in numbers.

At its highest, my beloved querkle tested at 9.71% thc, 2.66% CBD, .29% CBN. Irregardless it has been my daily driver PM medicine since I started growing it. All in All i could honestly care a less what the numbers are, as long as it gets the job done, and taste good. About an hour before I am ready for bed, a cup of tea and a fat bong of querkle and I am ko'd. It's still in my top 3 favorite flavor profiles. Ive grown a good range of sub's gear and querkle was my variety and my first love and still stands tall today.

yea, the dispensaries all test every batch they get in here, and the labs are putting out hilarious numbers of thc/cbd/cbn. Cannalitics is getting laughed at now, finally. They're either doing it on purpose so they get more cannabis to test, or just have poorly run labs. Either way it's a joke.

Halent seems to do good testing, very detailed if you want to pay extra. The numbers are more realistic also.


Analytical360.com posts their results online for everyone to see with pictures and everything, really cool. There is some TGA gear on there that tested very high. I found 3/5 of the strains in my garden tested on that site.

Jesus there are some really interesting testing results. I wish they stated from what breeder/grower. Cannatonic is insane. I grow it as well as LA-Ultra from Resin Seeds. Cannatonic is the epitome of couchlock. Its a cbd strain 5.49% CBD and 4.68%Thc according to the sample they tested. My la-ultra tested very low for cbd but cbn was half of my thc % almost. 9.66%thc and 4.57%CBN. Has a very similar effect IMO as the cannatonic. Very lethargic , narcotic with very heavy eyes and great sleepiness effect. However, my querkle pheno is a tab bit more ko for me as pm med's. still my daily driver at night. It does not have the highest thc % but has lovely cbd%.

*Correction, there are several cannatonic's tested on this site, and each one is a crazy ration of thc to cbd. some 9-11 perfect cbd with same thc%....thats a crazy strain for sure. Very 1/1 like high.

Thanks for providing that link union!

thought i would keep this info in a thread already started,
Just got test results from my local dispensary

Qrazy Train
THC 17.8%
CBD 3.9%
CBG 0.2%
CBN 0.22%
CBC 0.54%
THCv 1.2%

Which tga strain has the highest THCv %? Anyone, anyone? Bueller?




Frye...?

Sub had some hightimes footage from some year past were hes holding a jar of 6 month (or something like that) cured JTR that hit 5.5 on thcv. Someone correct me if i misremember