THC pills methods

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mokuro

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Hello,

Wonder what methods are the best:

-QWET the cannabis and put the alcohol w/ the oil and wait the alchool evaporate

-cook the cannabis in the oil.


Seems that on badkit's post, he make both ways, but wonder wich one will make better results and why? or what are the differences between them in the High?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Well I don't normally post anything about extractions on this forum.. But I prefer qwiso's taste, I do a quick wash then winterize in etoh then a hexane/saline wash until emulsion layer is removeed. This is my hash process the product is dissolved in coconut oil with some soy lecethin. I use size 00 pills 1 pill is good with the saturated coco oil, this is the most potent method I know of. As to your ? About the high. The more you process the more it degrades, especially when in suspension.... Peace from a chemist
 
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mokuro

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omg you do a lot of stuff before fill your caps, thanks for sharing.
So, by your answer i can understand that its better to quick wash it first, and then fill the caps, not cook it on oil and fill.

About taste, i think it really doesn't matter, since its a capsule.
Last time i did a QWETH and then put into oil, the capsules make a little bubble and then explode, i still have no idea what i did wrong, i'm very mad because of this, the alcohol was 100% evaporated this i'm sure. Maybe i should try ISO instead Eth

i'm not going try your method because its too complex i think :roll:, i have no access to hexane/saline neither know how to do it.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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I'm not sure I understand, the capsules explode? Hmm that's interesting, if your using the vegan caps they will dissolve from the oil.. For some good info on extractions google skunkpharmllc if you haven't checked them out,lotta good info there
 
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mokuro

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already checked skunkpharmallc, i'll try my absolute bho soon

about exploding, they are not vegan because i filled them w/ pure coconut oil and they did not make bubbles, they are ok, so the problem is not the Oil, it's the cannabis coconut oil, and i just made a QWETH and evaporated the alchool on eletric oven, let it for more than 1 week on normal temperature and they still explode, its a mistery =p
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Try a quick wash iso then dissolve it in coco oil until no more will go in, the hash being dissolved has already been decarbed so it will be active, don't decarb using an oven let it dry naturally with cheesecloth to prevent dust and a fan. This will give you the most thc
 
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mokuro

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Isn't ISO toxic for ingestion?
and i Do need decarb the weed Before the QW right, and then procceed like you said, evaporating on normal temperature
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Yea don't ingest any I'm just saying it wont react with the capsuls. I don't like using heat as it degrades quickly. I decarb my weed with the fan/cheesecloth till you can powder it with a good squeeze,
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Well I've already doubled my average daily quota so Ill also say the only way to remove iso/bho residuals is with an etoh wash or a thin film vaccum.. If you didn't already know
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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About decarbing.. Everyone should know, your removing the carboxyl group, co2 and h20, properly cured bud should already be decarbed for the most art anyway, it occurs naturally over time as it dries, heat speeds the process in fresh herb to dehydrate the product. Thc doesn't need to reach any temp for any period of time
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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I sure am getting self conscious for posting in this thread so much, and the only one... But to avoid any arguments I should clarify that while decarboxylation does require heat the addition of protons. We are not at absolute zero and room temp is infact heat
 
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mokuro

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No, please keep posting =]

this is new info for me, the no-need to heat for decarb.

i'll try do the caps again, make a qwet, put the coconut oil and wait it w/o heating too see what will result
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Yup, you will have to heat the coco beforehand to melt it,microwave it. I add a bit of soy lecethin to speed/aid absorption, scientific standpoint it should do good but I've found that if not placebo the difference is minimal. But yea that's all there is too it, then pop a few and wait

On an unrelated note you keep mentioning qwet, why is this your method? Not hating just curious, I started off doing iso
 
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mokuro

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just got it from here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more-49.html
badkit's tutorial
nothing special, just a noob trying different tutorials over internet to find the best one suitable for me.

about the caps exploding, its not explosive (fire and stuff), it just make bubbles and they Ploft! open a hole in my caps.
maybe i must keep them on refrigerator after they are made or this will happen? or you can get your caps everywhere w/ you w/o any problems?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Yea bro that's one of many advantages to using coco oil,it goes back solid and won't leak out the caps. But no there's no reason that should happen unless your using the wrong gelcaps. I've never used the caps that dissolve but that's all I can come up with. Its not a reaction to your hash.

Do you use a vaccum or heat to evaporate the alcohol, a plus to bho and iso is they evaorate at room temp..anyway I'm not trying to change your methods.

I've never had any problems with caps and what your talking about, sorry I'm not more help there
 
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mokuro

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Did my qwet yesterday, and put the result (before evaporate alcohol) on coconut oil.
heated at 140ºF on eletric oven to evaporate the alcohol.
Decarbed the final product on oil, instead of decarbing the weed before extraction.
the oil is very very dark, i think it will be potent this time.
It's now on freezer for 4hours (i dont know why do that, just fallowing badkit's tutorials), then i'll heat for more 60min at 220F and it's ready, i'll post results and pictures (if someone wants) tonight
 
Confucious

Confucious

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mokuro said:
Did my qwet yesterday, and put the result (before evaporate alcohol) on coconut oil.
heated at 140ºF on eletric oven to evaporate the alcohol.
Decarbed the final product on oil, instead of decarbing the weed before extraction.
the oil is very very dark, i think it will be potent this time.
It's now on freezer for 4hours (i dont know why do that, just fallowing badkit's tutorials), then i'll heat for more 60min at 220F and it's ready, i'll post results and pictures (if someone wants) tonight
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I´m making some caps today sometime from badkits recipe as well I´m just tweeking it a bit for I am using herb and bho(well my BHO is more like wax and not oil.) This will be my first time trying the pills so we´ll see how it goes. Also I have never decarbed my product before making budder or glycerine tincture and my patients say my stuff is great, so I wasnt to sure of the decarbing thing either tell I read qwiz´s statement. Anyways, I´l post some pics as well once finished.
 
poplars

poplars

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I'm messing with the cap recipes as well and am definitely interested to hear your results. I"ve been expirementing with doing teh extractions with just bud and oil but it's challenging to get the potency I need for some reason, but I'll continue to expirement before I get some high proof ethanol.
 
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