The 12-12 From Seed Thread

del66666

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Some quality there del boy, good growin son!! lol...............................how long does a reg seed take to show sex mate in 12/12 from seed average? soz if its been asked loads im just lazy lol
ello mate.males 2 ish weeks and fems 3 weeks +
 

brokenturtle3102

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and you use led from start till finish? if so how would you compare it to hps?
Yep I used led the whole way. To compare led to hid is a long line debate. Both my LEDs deffinetely out power a 400w, but deffinetely not a 600w and sure as hell not to a 1000w. What I mean by out power is the speed of growth, density of final product, stretching, size, etc. With LEDs, I have smaller more bushy plants, but that is exactly what I need them for. Tent is 5ft high so I cant have plants over 3 feet. I also pay 18$ a month for electricity on my entire grow. I also don't have a massive ac hood, a hot ballast and a bunch of useless wiring. So HID is better for growing plants to make money, LEDs are great for people like me. The stuff smoked from my led is just as good, if not better, than some hid growers.

Also, after coming close to harvesting my 12/12 seed plants, I have come to several conclusions about this method as a hole. It is great!!!... if you have the room in flowering to do so. Here are my comparisons for any new 12/12 grower...

Time- All my plants took around 15-16 weeks to fully mature in my flowering tent. If I had thrown vegged plants in there, I could have harvested twice.

Size- 12/12 plants are not small at all! No 12/12 plant should be below a foot, but as others have said, you get tiny grunts sometimes from bad genetics. If you do not want to sacrifice size for doing 12/12 from seed, start in a larger root container! I have a friend who uses nothing but 5gallon buckets and he does nothing less than 2oz from 12/12 seed.

Quality- what I found the most interesting was the amount of trichomes my 12/12 plants had. They are covered in crystals. I will do more testing on this, but my estimation is 12/12 from seeders tend to focus on the production of trichomes more. But i will come back with more results on this.

Price- I have only spent 50$ a month on my entire grow room for electricity and nutrients. I have never heard of his until it happened to me.

Leaf/bud ratio- with 12/12 seeders, I have noticed considerably more bud to leaf ratio. However, I will do more testing on this as well.
 

jimmygreenfingers

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Size- 12/12 plants are not small at all! No 12/12 plant should be below a foot
Hmmm, not so sure about this, wouldnt size of plants be down to strain/pheno and lights used. I know you can have small compact bud machines from HPS....perhaps its just not with LEDs. Thing is you dont really dont know what your gonna get, could be small/medium/large......you just never know.
 

jigfresh

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welcome to our little thread......mine go between 12 inches and 33 but you can always tie them down if needed.......whats your setup?
I have a 2 level flooded tube nft/rdwc whatever in my closet. 2' x 3' space with a 1000w vertical in the middle. I've only ever grown from clone... but after some bad experiences I really want to start from seed. 12/12 seems like the way to go. Especially since I don't want giant plants.

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Thanks a lot for the reply. I really appreciate it.

Apologies to all the other peeps in here. Didn't realize it was a 12/12 from seed thread (duh, look at the title right). All you guys seem to be killing it in your own way.
 

jimmygreenfingers

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I have a 2 level flooded tube nft/rdwc whatever in my closet. 2' x 3' space with a 1000w vertical in the middle. I've only ever grown from clone... but after some bad experiences I really want to start from seed. 12/12 seems like the way to go. Especially since I don't want giant plants.

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Thanks a lot for the reply. I really appreciate it.

Apologies to all the other peeps in here. Didn't realize it was a 12/12 from seed thread (duh, look at the title right). All you guys seem to be killing it in your own way.
I would have thought you would be better off sticking with clones in that sort of setup. Dont see why you cant go with 12/12 from seed but you might be doing more LSTing. Im using NFT shortly and going 12/12 with rooted clones as i feel ill have better results in that sort of setup than if i went with seeds.
 

jigfresh

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Well I have screens for both levels now, and I'm not against training. The biggest reasons for going from seed is that I'm very very limited on space, so there really isn't room in my place to keep a mother (or mothers), let alone another space to raise clones. I figure I can get away using a bookshelf to pop the seeds to get ready for the next run. Also, I have a bunch of seeds with really good genetics I got for free. We'll see what happens. I may end up having to go the clone route.

Thanks for the input jimmy.
 

jimmygreenfingers

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Well I have screens for both levels now, and I'm not against training. The biggest reasons for going from seed is that I'm very very limited on space, so there really isn't room in my place to keep a mother (or mothers), let alone another space to raise clones. I figure I can get away using a bookshelf to pop the seeds to get ready for the next run. Also, I have a bunch of seeds with really good genetics I got for free. We'll see what happens. I may end up having to go the clone route.

Thanks for the input jimmy.
No worries mate. The reason being for clones is as you know there gonna flower from word go so you can keep em small and comapct, with beans even tho its 12/12 from seed there gonna veg for a good few weeks, that and the fact you have a killer water culture setup could mean beans getting rather large. I did a 12/12 from seed trial grow in a SWC setup and they went beserk. I know what you mean about needing space mate, we all need more.....ive just made room in my loft for some mothers as its the only space i have left.......the things us growers have to do lol. I wouldnt say dont do it but just be perpared for some training. Post up some pics if you do mate, love to see your setup in action.
 

CaliMackdaddy

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Got some seedlings vegging in Dwc buckets atm, will take some good pictures and post em here :)

~~Strains: OG Kush, Strawberry Cough, White Rhino, Holy Grail 69
 

kana

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here are two pics, one super silver haze and lemon skunk, when comparing the super silver haze to the lemon and all previous grows, it seems as though the buds are not filling out and seem airy? where the lemon skunk buds are more dense. would there be any reason for this happening?

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Lemon Skunk
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kether noir

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its been a bit to say the least. my last 12/12 from seed was an interesting learning experience. i am now about to give it another go. 4 strains or so. the rest are to be vegged.

super lemon haze, blue cheese, l.a. con, pineapple chunk, rocksters cheese, 3d, cheese quake, vortex, pineapple dynamite, kushage, white shark 33, and some of my own
slh X kaboom, slh X orange bud X bubble gum, slh X slh f1, slh X vortex, vanilla kush X vortex, vanilla kush X orange bud X bubble gum, and others. just need to pick whats going where. pics as they come.


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aesan

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Good to have u back Kether

EDIT: Can't wait to see how some of those TGA strains will take it I reaaaaaaaally want some
 

Hypocrite420

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Hey guys n gals... I'm back in action... Had to chop my babies 5 weeks early due to some drama. I got another one brewin tho... I believe 7 days from seed... Doing this one 12/12 form seed. even germination was 12/12 lol. Its a bean I got from a friend (who I met on here actually). Supposed to be some kind of Afgooey x Haze feminized... I would be doing more than 1, but I got 3 clones on the way soon too. Papaya, Pineapple Crush, and Critical Jack. Lets cross our fingers on NO MORE DRAMA!!! lol
 
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