The 12-12 From Seed Thread

nuckyt

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She is also in the organic soil mix and is also very robust! I love the fat crinkly fans on this one, also topped at the 6th node
 

hsfkush

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Quick question, has anyone gone from CFL to HPS and stayed in the same grow space? If so, could you tell me what the temperature increase was? I am looking into getting a 250w HPS but have a limit on what I can do in terms of temperature control.
 

Youknowwhoiam

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Today


First off check out the size difference between the GDP and the BLT, there`s only 1 day between them but it shows how tough MJ is as I was expecting the BLT to die.
All`s well and all 3 big girls are flowering well and climbing for the light, Tric production has started on the GB and she really does stink, the OB is starting to smell fruity but the GB is overpowering her.


G13 Gigabud 58 Days FS
Dutch Passion Orange Bud 39 Days FS
TH Seeds Critical Hog 39 Days FS
Grand Daddy Purple Candyland 22 Days FS
CH9 Blue Lemion Thai 21 Days FS





 

zVice

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Hey guys,

blue pit left, dog right, both 9 weeks, bottom chocolate heaven
dog looks almost done will let it go another week or so, blue pit maybe slightly longer, choc heaven is about 3 weeks
soz for the yellow, couldn't get in there before lights on


 

giggywatts

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Quick question, has anyone gone from CFL to HPS and stayed in the same grow space? If so, could you tell me what the temperature increase was? I am looking into getting a 250w HPS but have a limit on what I can do in terms of temperature control.
i would like to know the same thing.
 

Woogsan

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Superbud @ 35 days flowering, this is the sort of plant size and build I need for my small cab, smelling nicely when close, sort of musty sweet smell.
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Superbud no 2 which is 3 x height so a tall pheno, one of the buds also @ 35 days flower 12/12 fs.
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African Sativa bagseed @ 11 days fs, got 1 more @ 42 days flower 12/12 fs in a 3L airpot but its pinned to the back of the cab diagonally as it is big for my cab, can't get a good pic of it yet, a good smoke too!
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Chronix x 2 fem seed, popped today, helped off a seed case.
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KidneyStoner420

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Quick question, has anyone gone from CFL to HPS and stayed in the same grow space? If so, could you tell me what the temperature increase was? I am looking into getting a 250w HPS but have a limit on what I can do in terms of temperature control.

I ran a 250 for a year or so. How many CFL watts are you running? from how many bulbs? What is the room temp now?
 

hsfkush

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I ran a 250 for a year or so. How many CFL watts are you running? from how many bulbs? What is the room temp now?

I currently have a 200w 2700k CFL hanging above the plants and three 30w(117w equivalent) 2700k around the lower part of the 3 plants. My temperatures are in the mid 80's during lights on, low-mid 70's during lights off.

I also have a 16 inch fan for circulation on speed 1 but it can go up 2 more speeds if that would help with temperatures.

Edit: What it is that I intend to do, is use a 250w HPS and 4-5 low wattage 6400k dotted around the plants. The 200w CFL I am using doesn't give enough penetration for my liking, I guess I could just use more smaller CFL's but it's just hassle having to move so many around for adjustments etc.
Maybe I could try scrogging with my next lot of plants, but given I much prefer to go 12/12 from seed, I'm not sure if it's possible to do.
 

Woogsan

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On the subject of lighting, I just ordered a 18 watt 660nm red led unit, they are DIY and made up of 6 x 3w leds mounted to alu board and have a power driver, you need to change the lenses to suit your grow area, fix a heatsink and apply 12v power and its complete for about £30, I am going to take out 2 x 35 watt 2700k cfl with each of these kits added and of course replace the 6500k cfl's with 460nm led units. This should save 52 watts of power for the same appx yield per watt (cfl 5w per g/led 1w per g?)
The reason for this is the heat that my 12 cfl bulbs make is just right at the moment (26C) but as the summer comes it will definitely be too hot for growing anything...also the mess of cables will not be missed.
 

nameno

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I have been thinking 'bout running cfls during summer to avoid the heat,but I wonder if I put enough of 'em in my small space to do close to the same job would it end up being enough cooler to be worth it? I'm thinking like a 200w vertical & 6-10 small ones on the sides.

Never mind,bad idea. I need to spend July modifying & cleaning good,then when I start back around August they'll be small enough I can run a smaller light that I already have.

Oh & Good Morning! Large Grows to everyone!
 

Youknowwhoiam

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On the subject of lighting, I just ordered a 18 watt 660nm red led unit, they are DIY and made up of 6 x 3w leds mounted to alu board and have a power driver, you need to change the lenses to suit your grow area, fix a heatsink and apply 12v power and its complete for about £30, I am going to take out 2 x 35 watt 2700k cfl with each of these kits added and of course replace the 6500k cfl's with 460nm led units. This should save 52 watts of power for the same appx yield per watt (cfl 5w per g/led 1w per g?)
The reason for this is the heat that my 12 cfl bulbs make is just right at the moment (26C) but as the summer comes it will definitely be too hot for growing anything...also the mess of cables will not be missed.
As I'm currently an led gardener I can say you'll still be fighting a heat battle but in keeping it warm,

I previously used 125w cfls and can see a change in yields and power consumption but during the winter months I have to run a small oil filled rad to keep them toasty, I'm also in the uk and the tents in an insulated loft with a duvet thrown over the top,

LEDs for ME are perfect and I wouldn't change, yields are better and the nugs are more compact.

Good luck mate and welcome to farming on Pluto ;)
 

Woogsan

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As I'm currently an led gardener I can say you'll still be fighting a heat battle but in keeping it warm,

I previously used 125w cfls and can see a change in yields and power consumption but during the winter months I have to run a small oil filled rad to keep them toasty, I'm also in the uk and the tents in an insulated loft with a duvet thrown over the top,

LEDs for ME are perfect and I wouldn't change, yields are better and the nugs are more compact.

Good luck mate and welcome to farming on Pluto ;)
I'm in a cab in my bedroom, fully stealthy until the Ona block runs out lol, perhaps a mix of CFL/LED would help heat for me, it's always 21 degC in the room until summer then it can be 28!!
 

supchaka

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Party cup action. 15 days in flower.

Because I only have 2 little plants like this here is how much food they get each day into 12 oz water. There's a decent amount of runoff they sit in to keep drinking till the next watering. They started to yellow around 3-4 weeks from seed which is when I switched them to hydro nutes. Cns17 ripe to be specific.
 

KidneyStoner420

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I currently have a 200w 2700k CFL hanging above the plants and three 30w(117w equivalent) 2700k around the lower part of the 3 plants. My temperatures are in the mid 80's during lights on, low-mid 70's during lights off.

I also have a 16 inch fan for circulation on speed 1 but it can go up 2 more speeds if that would help with temperatures.

Edit: What it is that I intend to do, is use a 250w HPS and 4-5 low wattage 6400k dotted around the plants. The 200w CFL I am using doesn't give enough penetration for my liking, I guess I could just use more smaller CFL's but it's just hassle having to move so many around for adjustments etc.
Maybe I could try scrogging with my next lot of plants, but given I much prefer to go 12/12 from seed, I'm not sure if it's possible to do.

I wouldn't think a 250 mwould add too much heat in your case. Another option would be to buy a dimmable 400w, which would dim to 200w. Would also leave you some room to "grow" if you had the space for a 400 in the future.
 
Hey RiU first let me thank you guys for your help you gave me a couple weeks back about some problems I had before starting my first grow.

Im on day 19 and am doing 12/12 from seed, and wanted you guys to take a look and see how you think they are doing...

First a little info on them: 4x Vanilla Kush from Barneys Farm, DR90 grow tent (3x3), 600w HPS, 6" inline fan, and some other goodies fans and whatnot. Soil is FFOF mixed with perlite.

In the begining I placed the seedlings in straight FFOF no perlite and did not cook the soil, well needless to say things did not start of well. They were all very yellow and very slow growing. At about day 6 I took out the HPS and replaced it with 6500k CFL bulbs, about 150w worth of them. And kept those on till day 16 during which time the soil stayed very damp and I watered only once. Day 16 I replaced the solo cups with 2g pots with 50% FFOF and 50% perlite, gave then a good water, and turned the HPS on at about 30" away. During the last couple days I've lowed it to about 18" away from the top. Yesterday I gave them some water and tomorrow if the soil is dry I will start on nutes at 1/4 strength. (using general organics go box)

Anyway I think that about sums it up if there is any advice or just your thoughts on how their doing it would be greatly appreciated. Here are some Pics Day 19 FS!
 
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