The 12-12 From Seed Thread

[jigfresh]

im not talkin about hunting people down but if people are let to do such evil things without punishment then where does that leave all the innocent people. karma is bullsht to me. I seen too many wonderful beautiful people die horrible deaths for no reason at all.. where s the karma there. I guess your really really lucky. in my reality things just dont work that way. Welp talkin abou work.. gots to go now and tend to 15 sick dying cancer patients on a 10 hour shift. do it everyday..shit still piles up on my doorstep.. so much for karma.

I say karma exists and have the experience of life I do. You say it's bullshit and have the experience you do. Might want to take a step back and have a look from a different perspective.

No luck involved.

 

[Javadog]

I didn't call anything bullshit.

I take care of people, but not in the hope of some karmic benefit.
It is just the right thing to do.

I will not call Evil Good.

Carry on. I like your style too.

JD

 

[Serial Violator]

I'm not sure how they got in, it's a gated community so you need a buzzer to get through gates. It was between 11 and 3 during the da and none of the neighbours who outside there house saw a thing. But we had new people move in 4 doors up and a neighbour told me he saw him acting strange around an empty house the other day and the new neighbour drove in the gate as I drove out that day.
I. Sure if the had seen my grow it would of gone, it's all ready and I had 3plants drying down stairs and my Xbox and ps3 projector and 5k so thank fuck they didn't go down there. But yeah we are upgrading security or moving but I really like where I live so not sure, it's a weird feeling mot feeling comfortable in your own house, not worried about my safety I'm a big lad and got plenty of tools so just a weird feeling I've never experience before.

 

[hsfkush]

Sorry to hear about your misfortunes SV, I've never(touch wood) had my house broken into, although I have had a knife shoved in my face and demanded to hand over my money, which resulted in my Dog saving my life as I refused to give him anything and as he went to attack me, the dog took a chunk out of his arm and stomach, as well as being stabbed in the back leg on her upper thigh.

Forever in debt to the dog.

By the way, is everything covered by insurance? If so you should be fine and get the same if not better than what you had before, especially if they don't make the specific model numbers you had anymore.

 

[Serial Violator]

I'm not adverse to let say a few sticky situations but felt where I live was pretty safe. It's the not knowing who it was and me thinking of a list of possible suspects and the lock on the sliding door being popped open is idoing my nut in, without the key being used which means it was already unlocked but I'm positive it was locked because its only unlocked with the key in it.
Plus the arseholes had my little travel grinder away as well as a freebie from a seed co and my beloved crystal catcher.
Sorry for ranting, need to vent

 

[Javadog]

Do not apologize. I would be pissed as hell too.

Let us know what comes of this. I would want to confirm
potential precautions for correctness. (never had to deal with this)

Better luck going forward.

JD

 

[bass1014]

wow sorry to hear this to one of our fellow brothern.. locks are to keep honest people honest. doesn't matter how he/they got in if someone wants bad enough you n i both know people like that will do what ever it takes.. but on another note i wanted to show my sour blueberry from HSO from pop to stop. 12/12 as soon as the leaves poped out the ground. been in a 5 gl bucket with aero stone. gh nutes with kool bloom and pineapple nector with a week flush.. started seeing naners so down she come.. hope this lifts any spirits up.. seriously fucked up people in this world..

 

[hsfkush]

Placing my seed order tomorrow, assuming I've worked out my finances correctly.

Going for:

Green Poison - Such a potent smoke, really, really overwhelming at times.
Strawberry D-Lite - Wanted a Strawberry Diesel and apparently, this is one of the better versions.
Bizarre - Only heard good things about SickMeds, unfortunately, the ones I wanted were out of stock(Green Crack).
Cannalope Kush - I have unfinished business with this strain, my own fault it hermied last time, so this time I will get it right!

I'll also be upgrading my set up too, but that will come in a couple of weeks.

300W LED Panel
Canna Coco - I already use it but I need more
Canna Coco A+B Same as the Coco.
Canna Rhizotonic Never used before, but I am looking to use more of the Canna line in my next set up.
Canna Boost Same as Rhiz
Canna PK 13/14 Same as Rhiz and Boost
Cannazym Same as Rhiz, Boost and PK 13/14.
Canna Flush Same as the others.
What do you guys think? I'm also considering Airpots, but have read numerous times that watering is a real pain in the ass.

 

[zVice]

Nice line up

As for the upgrade, personally I wouldn't bother with canna boost, used overdrive instead with much better results, need to be careful when using this with the pk, watch for burn.
Also instead of pk 13/14 get hammerhead 4/8 or 4/10, this can be used every other feed during flower.
Canna flush, never bothered trying, as I usually just lower the feed towards the end, might be worth a try

Airpots are amazing just remember to size down, if you normally use a 10L pot you'll only need a 6L airpot and its still likely to outperform the 10. They can be a pain, but if you set them up properly and water them slowly they are fine, you will also need to water more often, but the additional effort is definitely worth it.

as for the LED, never tried them myself, but been looking into it, only advice I can think of is to panel up, in other words if you think you need a 300, or they recommend a 300 for your area size, then go for the next one up. I looked at prakasa, but the biggest they do is 300w, which means for my 3x3 I would probably end up getting 2 panels... But I'm a light whore

 

[hsfkush]

Nice line up

As for the upgrade, personally I wouldn't bother with canna boost, used overdrive instead with much better results, need to be careful when using this with the pk, watch for burn.
Also instead of pk 13/14 get hammerhead 4/8 or 4/10, this can be used every other feed during flower.
Canna flush, never bothered trying, as I usually just lower the feed towards the end, might be worth a try

Airpots are amazing just remember to size down, if you normally use a 10L pot you'll only need a 6L airpot and its still likely to outperform the 10. They can be a pain, but if you set them up properly and water them slowly they are fine, you will also need to water more often, but the additional effort is definitely worth it.

as for the LED, never tried them myself, but been looking into it, only advice I can think of is to panel up, in other words if you think you need a 300, or they recommend a 300 for your area size, then go for the next one up. I looked at prakasa, but the biggest they do is 300w, which means for my 3x3 I would probably end up getting 2 panels... But I'm a light whore

Thanks for the advice buddy, I have an OCD about having everything the same, I've done it with my PC also, like all of my peripherals are the same brand(currently Roccat), even inside the PC is all the same apart from the processor lol, just like my clothes have to be the same brand although I don't worry about my boxers, socks and trainers. So the nutrients will have to stay Canna, I don't doubt your advice on that though and if I hadn't recently already, I'd rep you for it.
I guess I'm just very strange or a nerd? lol.

The lights I currently use(CFL's@1x200w, 3x30w and 3x30w@6500k) will be supplementing my 300w LED panel. Plus I'm only growing 5 plants(perpetual-ish) at anyone time, so I'm not even sure if the CFL's are needed at all when I've got the LED panel installed lol.

I currently use 5 litre square pots as they use less space and are easier to rotate the plants every day. So I guess 2 or 3 litre airpots would suffice for what I'm doing, going by your comparison with the 10 litre?

 

[12/12 jack]

U should never be afraid of change my friend... If its gonna make things better!!!
The only advice I can give you is you can't have too much light!! Well u can but only if u growing in sub zero (or proper proper cold temps like i did in winter in my basement and had 1000w super lumen setting on ballast 6 inches from canopy on my parabolic shade and it bleached leaves)so a light whore is the way to go as already mentioned!!
As for your socks and boxers I'm glad u break the habit and change them!!
I'm only a beginner but jumped straight in at deep end and I grow 50 odd plants at a time and have read this whole thread from start to finish on numerous occasions (probably makes me weirder and nerdier than u!!) so the only extra advice I can give is follow dels methods... Hesi nutes all the way and pk 9/18... Hammerhead not making it any more so buddah tree the way to go... I'm only on my second grow and averaged 1.5 oz my first grow with 12-13 plants a light... Now I've got 9 plants a light (metre square) and they only 8 weeks from popping through the coco and much bigger than first grow finished!! Still 2-3 weeks to go!! I reckon I'm gonna average 3 oz+ this time and I've been battling temps up to 32 degrees c and humidity between 65-80%!!! In full flower!! Del started this thread and he's the master... I have copied him to a tee as much as I can and have worked out from this thread...the world is your oyster and the only limits u have are in your head... Good luck with your grows...mind over matter is impressive if u r confident and commited like I'm sure u r!!! I wish u the best of luck. I knew fuck all before I found this thread...100's of hours of research later I reckon I can yield as good a crop as anybody!!! My garden is living proof... No limits my friend. Just believe and be commited like I'm sure u r. Respect

 

[12/12 jack]

Oh and if anyone thinks I'm blagging I'm more than willing to provide evidence to back up my claims!!! I average g/w my first grow and this time probably gonna be about 1.5g/w... And I've far from mastered the growing potential of this magnificent plant!!! I'm pretty sure a few months ago when I first posted on this thread u were giving me advice!! Along with a few other genuine people. Like I say the only limits u have are in your head... Never be afraid to change if its for the better

 

[12/12 jack]

Oh and like I say I haven't posted or looked on here for a few months...apart from the last week or so... What the fuck has happened to del??? Lol

 

[12/12 jack]

Oh and another thing I'd just like to say Is "warriorbuds" is an absolute prick... But we all know that!! 9 oz of a 12" plant!??? Haha..... Fucking mug...
And if anyone don't believe how well my plants are doing my bird said she would happily pose with my plants between her tits lol... (They obviously much bigger than my cock!! Haha) so if that's within forum rules just ask if u would like to see... They a pretty nice pair (cost me 5k!!!!) I must admit I'm rambling cos I've had a few beers but believe I don't talk shit

 

[B166ER420]

Oh and another thing I'd just like to say Is "warriorbuds" is an absolute prick... But we all know that!! 9 oz of a 12" plant!??? Haha..... Fucking mug...
And if anyone don't believe how well my plants are doing my bird said she would happily pose with my plants between her tits lol... (They obviously much bigger than my cock!! Haha) so if that's within forum rules just ask if u would like to see... They a pretty nice pair (cost me 5k!!!!) I must admit I'm rambling cos I've had a few beers but believe I don't talk shit

Dude,lets see those warlocks!not your cock

 

[nameno]

Don't worry with the buds,just show the bird,as you say.
I liked your comments about change,I know I have a problem with change.

 

[giggywatts]

thinking about getting another grow going, and i'll be using my 2' x 2' x 4' grow box. i had 4 plants my last grow and had problems with it (my fault) but i used 3 gal buckets and my box was full. i have been looking around for a small dia. but taller pots to grow in so i can grow more plants. i found these cylinders that i think would work for this setup. heres a link. what do y'all think?
http://www.containerandpackaging.com/item/C006

 

[B166ER420]

thinking about getting another grow going, and i'll be using my 2' x 2' x 4' grow box. i had 4 plants my last grow and had problems with it (my fault) but i used 3 gal buckets and my box was full. i have been looking around for a small dia. but taller pots to grow in so i can grow more plants. i found these cylinders that i think would work for this setup. heres a link. what do y'all think?
http://www.containerandpackaging.com/item/C006

My closet is slightly bigger than 2x2x4 but as you can see that's a shitload of plants. I would have been out of room had they all been female.Those are 3liter soda bottles from the Dollar store,I just wrapped them with Dollar store duct tape.You have too take into account the final size of the plants ...anyway you could fit 16 in a 2x2 space
I just measured one and 5" dia. and 10" tall,slightly smaller,wayyy cheaper than the ones in your link

 

[BBbubblegum]

My closet is slightly bigger than 2x2x4 but as you can see that's a shitload of plants. I would have been out of room had they all been female.Those are 3liter soda bottles from the Dollar store,I just wrapped them with Dollar store duct tape.You have too take into account the final size of the plants ...anyway you could fit 16 in a 2x2 space

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Thats pretty cool. Is that a perpetual system from seed? How much you yielding from each plant?

 

[B166ER420]

Thats pretty cool. Is that a perpetual system from seed? How much you yielding from each plant?

Thanks!.....yes,from seed(mexi-schwag),semi-perpetual,ive always got some growing.........im still trying to figure it out,there not always ready at the same time.I get about 1.5oz each.The biggest 12/12fs was almost 3z,smallest like 14g.It sucks growing mexi.Im chopping some now,pics coming later.