The Art of The Auto

teflondummy

teflondummy

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Well the verdict is in from the MG organic vs. FFOF trail. they both cause males to pop up. I will yank them and start two BHDs in the same pots and try it again. That will end up better any way since I will now have 2 BHDs in each type instead of two different strains.
 
XxK2xX

XxK2xX

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ok thanks guys well i dont have a soil ph tester but ive been watering in the 6.0- 6.8ish range but my run off is low like 5.5 5.8ish ..??? wtf no good huh
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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might up the ph in value a bit for a few waterings... maybe like 7.5 ....keep monitoring until stable then readjust back down to normal to hold it...
kinda like heating a keetle of ice... gotta give time for the heat / ph to soak in.

J

ok... gotta go wash a shitload of pots... wipe thrips... overwriting hard pot drive... DOD triple overwrite enabled...
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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XxK2xX said:
ok thanks guys well i dont have a soil ph tester but ive been watering in the 6.0- 6.8ish range but my run off is low like 5.5 5.8ish ..??? wtf no good huh
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nah my friend you need to get that up. Something in the soil is causing that and i think it may be the TB. I can tell you this is the last time that i will ever use the TB product. My teas do just the same amount of flower power but never cause a ph drop. You may need to think about flushing with 7.0 water to get that run off up. If it comes up then the soil will balance. Be careful with this though, you can cause stress via pH fluctuation and damage some chlorophyll. Take it a day at a time.
 
ENCOUNTERZERO

ENCOUNTERZERO

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After the morning page triathlon I final caught up here. trying to keep up here is like trying to win a foot race if you got no legs the shit just dont happen. Sorry to see the damage the little buggy bastards caused JM go full on dirty harry on them bitchs. Mossy my friend all i have to say and im sure i speak for a few here damn it man your like the weed dr.frankinstin you got all kinda craziness going on.(but damn they look good) Anything else you got kicking around in that head of yours would be interesting to hear about. I'm diggin the black coming in on them 2 you had the pic's of.
 
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dargo

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sorry thought you was fighting the borg, I never used predetors for thrips so my advice will proberbly be wrong.
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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dargo said:
sorry thought you was fighting the borg, I never used predetors for thrips so my advice will proberbly be wrong.
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I hope i never see spider mites, it seems like the worst enemy of us canna growers.
Ive not seen them so far and i hope it stays that way.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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nah my friend you need to get that up. Something in the soil is causing that and i think it may be the TB. I can tell you this is the last time that i will ever use the TB product. My teas do just the same amount of flower power but never cause a ph drop. You may need to think about flushing with 7.0 water to get that run off up. If it comes up then the soil will balance. Be careful with this though, you can cause stress via pH fluctuation and damage some chlorophyll. Take it a day at a time.
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yeah, definetly! my experience with hydroponics showed this... no soil to help slow the swings... I've seen perfectly good plants get bitchsmacked permanently from too much fluctuation.

@encounter... thanks man.. we'll shoot em up real good!

I hope i never see spider mites, it seems like the worst enemy of us canna growers.
Ive not seen them so far and i hope it stays that way.
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Actually, they are real easy to knock down... just hard to spot unless you're really payin attention and bad if they get WAY outta control... Ihad em bad one year in the old place.. all my girls... ordered 1500 ladybugs and cut em loose in there.... bam! 1 week... few spider mites to find.. 2 weeks... no morenew eggs showing up on leaves.... 3 weeks... no mites... shitloads of ladybugs! and they're cool to have around...
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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So, in response to the terrorist threat from the thrips... I'm loading more ordinates!

1) light neem oil addition to all soil
2) All soil will be composted here by me first!
3)Red wigglers in the mail as well (worms)
4)New bin (20 gallon) to compost in
5)Also add FF Root Drench to compost bin
6)Got a 20 gallon bin for bubbling my water in today as well (already have a nice 4 port airpump and stones)
5)Beneficial nematodes in the mail as well... they eat just about all those kinda pests... some 250 different species and even better, they get them at the larvae stage.
6)Now its not a real pain in the ass to handle compost (garden is 1/2 mile away)

Resluts:

1) Better Soil
2) Worm Castings amended in
3)Beneficial nemtodes will be cycling through all pots as well as neem and other benficial organisms
4)No more getting stuck in drifts going to the garden in the winter to dump compost
5)All my non-glossy paper and cardboard will be recycled rather than burned
6)O2 water without H202 cost and storage hazards
7)All sustainable practices

:)
Thanks all for all the great input!
 
43Hitman

43Hitman

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Whew, all caught up. Freaking nine pages overnight. You bastards gotta slow down, lol.

@XxK2xX no problem man I'm glad I was able to help. Besides this is the internet, its ALWAYS a good idea to confirm plant advice. I'm really glad I had it right. Just means all the stuff I've been gleaning from FD and Mossy is paying off. They aren't wasting keystrokes, so I'm happy for that.

@ JM thanks for confirming my original diagnosis. Sorry to hear about your invasion, but I know you have some SHOCK AND AWE for their asses. lol

@ Mossy, man I love me some of that Black, me want some! lol

@ FD sounds like a plan bro. Good to hear your auxins are acting the way they are supposed to. PJ hasn't popped yet, but I'm sure by tonight I'll see some green. That LS came out red! Its now turning to the normal green but that was pretty interesting to see last night.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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@ JM thanks for confirming my original diagnosis. Sorry to hear about your invasion, but I know you have some SHOCK AND AWE for their asses. lol
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no problem man.. yes SHOCK and AWE ensues! Bunker busters get here tommorrow! lol

BTW folks... you should also be aware of another benefit of neem among many others: Neem becomes systemic meaning that the plant actually absorbs a small amount of it and then when the bugs feed on the plant they are preventing themselves from reproducing because they never reach maturity.

Neem works by preventing insects (excepting honeybees, wasps, bumblebees, lady bugs, etc. most beneficials) from changing from one developmental phase to the next.
It can take about 1 week to up to 3 to show any results... so its best used as a preventative measure and used even better in an IPM scenario (Integrated Pest Management).

IPM is a broader approach to pest management... whereby multiple (typically organic, but not always) methods are combined and, when applicable, used for their symbiotic and often synergistic effect. (IE Neem Oil and nemtodes and ladybugs and say, rosemary oil (used for brown spot on cherries and other stone fruits) Basically, the idea is to block pests and pathogens from ever entering and to make plants resistant to them.

Every time I skip using the neem preventative, I'm sorry I did... and here I am again... lol
:wall:

eh.... bongsmilie
 
43Hitman

43Hitman

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John Mondello said:
no problem man.. yes SHOCK and AWE ensues! Bunker busters get here tommorrow! lol

BTW folks... you should also be aware of another benefit of neem among many others: Neem becomes systemic meaning that the plant actually absorbs a small amount of it and then when the bugs feed on the plant they are preventing themselves from reproducing because they never reach maturity.

Neem works by preventing insects (excepting honeybees, wasps, bumblebees, lady bugs, etc. most beneficials) from changing from one developmental phase to the next.
It can take about 1 week to up to 3 to show any results... so its best used as a preventative measure and used even better in an IPM scenario (Integrated Pest Management).

IPM is a broader approach to pest management... whereby multiple (typically organic, but not always) methods are combined and, when applicable, used for their symbiotic and often synergistic effect. (IE Neem Oil and nemtodes and ladybugs and say, rosemary oil (used for brown spot on cherries and other stone fruits) Basically, the idea is to block pests and pathogens from ever entering and to make plants resistant to them.

Every time I skip using the neem preventative, I'm sorry I did... and here I am again... lol
:wall:

eh.... bongsmilie
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Thanks for the lesson JM. I really need to get some Neem to keep around. The only pest I've had to deal with is fungus gnats courtesy of our friends at Miracle Grow. I usually just deal with them buy adding about a teaspoon of Dawn liquid detergent to a gallon of water, works like a charm every time. They hate that soap.
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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lucky to have such an easily defeated pest... more than happy to share... noticed amongst the postings it seemed some people had some misunderstandings... I've researched in depth on it and use it commercially.

Coincidentally, I thought I caught it that mossy and FD and prob others are smokers... dunno if you guys make your own cigarettes or not but if you do and you have those little "trash powder tobacco" piles... you can make an easy pesticide with it. just basically boil it in water for a while... srtain the sediment out and use the liquid... dont get it on your hands! dont get it on your hands! dont get it on your hands! Its concentrated nictoine basically... so a couple drops on your tongue may KILL YOU! on yor hands may KILL YOU! at least... wicked muscle spams and possibly never recover... kinda like ms symptoms so... careful... but you can dilute it with water and spray it on and itll kill the insects pretty quick... dont use on roses!
 
John Mondello

John Mondello

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(turning to FD)
So, what temps ya reccomend on the water bubble and did you say you add anything else to that? its been a while since you discussed it.
 
43Hitman

43Hitman

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Holy Shit JM! lol that shit sounds dangerous. I don't smoke though, been off of those damn things for over 7 years now. It's good to know how to make an effetive poison though, lol.
 
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