The Art of The Auto

FullDuplex said:

Any time man

as far as how many go into the area i am not sure
I have seen Mossy grow SEVERAL in a 20l pot
so i am sure that there could be quite a few.

i have 6 under a 250watt HPS but i really could add 4 more to the space
but i want the ones under there to get the majority of the light
so i try not to over do it. Now once i switch rooms im gonna got to 600 maybe 1000 HPS but thats a whole new ball game.

I figure you could do 4-5 and have decent yields, and from what i can tell autos in the same pot love the competition they get growing together. Almost as if they want to out produce each other, and if thats the case i am OK with that

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That sounds good to me
Another noob question now i'm afraid
Can you grow from start to finish under a 2700k lamp?
My thinking being so you could stagger your plants by dropping one in say every couple of weeks or so and have them in their various stages under the same lamp.
Sorry for the barrage of questions, just trying to improve my knowledge of these babies

SmokeyDeHerb said:

That sounds good to me
Another noob question now i'm afraid
Can you grow from start to finish under a 2700k lamp?
My thinking being so you could stagger your plants by dropping one in say every couple of weeks or so and have them in their various stages under the same lamp.
Sorry for the barrage of questions, just trying to improve my knowledge of these babies

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Yes you can start to finish with a 2700. If anything might affect yield a LIL but doubt it youll be fine bro... But if I was you throw in 6500 and just keep it mixed from start to finish..

Hey everybody. Just thought i would post a few photos that i just took today and give you an update how the 3 girls are lookin.... First is the pakistan ryder at 30 days. the 2nd pic is the blue himalaya at 22 days and the 3rd is the ak48 at 27 days. Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated as always and good luck to everyone....

XxK2xX said:

Yes you can start to finish with a 2700. If anything might affect yield a LIL but doubt it youll be fine bro... But if I was you throw in 6500 and just keep it mixed from start to finish..

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Thanks man. I probably will.
Just an idea i had floating in my head. At the moment i only have a small tent to grow in in the spare room. But in about 9 months i lose the spare room and then i'm screwed so was trying to think how i can grow as much as possible in a short time without harvesting all at once

cheers for the info m8, i have been wanting to do autos for a while now and you ma man have just let the penny drop! cheers my reason for doing autos is that the temp in mygrowroom drops severely in winter and the big 12/12 babies suffer at night when there is no heat build-up off the HPS. i thinking of trying green-o-matic. ay info on this strain would be great. thanks

SmokeyDeHerb said:

That sounds good to me
Another noob question now i'm afraid
Can you grow from start to finish under a 2700k lamp?
My thinking being so you could stagger your plants by dropping one in say every couple of weeks or so and have them in their various stages under the same lamp.
Sorry for the barrage of questions, just trying to improve my knowledge of these babies

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Just like k2 said you can run that spec bulb the entire grow and be fine I run HPS the entire grow.
I have MH too but its easier to run one than change em all out.
Plus my HPS has 10,000 more lumen's than the MH
Power from the get go

FullDuplex said:

So i was browsing and i came across this and about fell out of my chair.....

This is an auto DucksFoot

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Going to be great eh!!! Chappers?
I told him i'll buy a big ol bag of those seeds when he's ready. HA i can't wait for these, one release i have marked down for sure. I didn't get a chance to buy the foot before wally got the pinch. For me this is a long time comming.

Talking to those involved it should be good.. Plat them with some nettles and you are 100% stealth.. I love all the crazy autos comming out, it's like christmass.. wait it almost is.. hehe



Some tunes for the 80s crowd. Anyone else think gavin/santana totaly bombed this, last night on the AMW?


[video=youtube;alFlaMC2b3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFlaMC2b3c[/video]

Bh.

dude totally bombed... horrible choice for a singer with santana! gavin must be tryin to make some comeback cause ive heard his name for various things lately like something or other about him and gwen having problems...all part of some mangager/advertising/image push...he sounded weak and it was really akward...i caught some performances in bewteen commerical breaks from the game and i gotta say the only good performance was new kids on the block and n'synch hahaha...im a musican and work in the industry and am a rock n roller but i gotta say that was the best performance i saw...anyways check out my sig i started my first thread! comments and suugestions are welcome...fulld is the man for starting this thread! whats the deal with that ducksfoot auto??

I was told they are still working the ducksfoot auto, varibale in phenos atm. Was told it might be released under lowlife's brand.. Don't quote me though.. Things change

I would have loved to get into music as a profession. I would classify myself as a music head for sure. I am a rocker for sure.. Some of the heavy stuff i like too, texas hippie coalition is my new thing these days. Good to see another music head around.


@ FD: Hey, you use a 250 hps right?
Have you considered trying a CMH bulb?
I am thinking of going the dual 250cmh route for a smaller cab type grow.
Thoughts?!

Thanks Fulld for the reminder 2700k cfls also have more lumens than 6500k.

Hey guys, loving the info around here, the SmokeyDeHerb question about CFL was one of my concerns too. Thx to Smokey for putting the question and FullD, k2 for the answers , really helped the planning stuff.

Just a quick question, what do u guys think about Drip Irrigation for a small grow???
Sometimes i have to leave like 3 to 7 days and would be nice keep watering the babies, but i'm afraid of flooding the whole thing running it 24/7.
Cheers and sorry the dummy question

zemanel said:

Hey guys, loving the info around here, the SmokeyDeHerb question about CFL was one of my concerns too. Thx to Smokey for putting the question and FullD, k2 for the answers , really helped the planning stuff.

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Hey, you never know if you don't ask. Everybody has to start somewhere

Endorium said:

I have my autos on 24 hour light. They have been since the beginning and they are flowering great on 24 hour light to. I think if you get a good breed/strain of auto 24 hour light is best. I have pics of mine a few pages back and people seem to think they are very good so I guess 24 hour light must be doing them more good than bad

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24/0 doesn't allow them any time to grow during dark periods. 20/4 is much better for your girls than 24/0.

24/0 doesn't allow them any time to grow during dark periods. 20/4 is much better for your girls than 24/0.

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I will voutch for this also.

Bh.

KuLong said:

Thanks for the share. This thread moves so fast I miss many good post.

I probably missed it somewhere...

But do you add any ferts to this mix or is it a make and grow recipe?

I am looking for a mix for autos that I can just water after putting the soil together.

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Hey mate, the thread indeed moves so fast lol, i was going back page after page.. Was a treat to see mossys DC dom girls.. Always a treat.

Anyways to the point. That mix is pretty much add water only, no nutes needed unless she is HUNGRY. If you want to get faster rates of growth, i will bubble a "tea" with some compost and molassis. If i have kelp on hand i add a spoon of this to the tea too. The tea isn't really a "Nute" persay, you are growing more compost microbes by bubbling it (with an air stone). The molasis is in there for the microbes to feed on and multiply. I will water with compost tea every 3 waterings, and molasis alone every other. Hope you can make sence of that lol. If you have some mega hungry gals on your hands i will put a spoon of sheep mauer in there, to green them up. I am going to start using alaskan fish fertaliser instead, for N right away here, the fatty acids are good for canna too That and it is a more complete nutrient that is safe for microbes.

Check out Welcome Harvest Farms I would have good things to say about everything they sell.

When you water in the "tea", the microbes hit the dirt and "eat" the addatives you added and gives your plant a boost. This method is how farmers get those massive veggies, 1000 pound pumpkins and such.. Feed the soil not the plant

Even if they stay green most of the way through flower it is organics, so there is little need to flush anyways. The buds burn soo clean, you'll love organics. Easy, Burns Clean and everyone says wow when you light it up.

Bh.

Bighill said:

@ FD: Hey, you use a 250 hps right?
Have you considered trying a CMH bulb?
I am thinking of going the dual 250cmh route for a smaller cab type grow.
Thoughts?!

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I have been mulling this one over a time or two.
I have seen grows with them and have seen the color spec that they acclaim
But i'm still not sure, i have seen guys go MH all the way and do well
so it has to do some good if there is red spec in there too.

I have grown these two ways, MH then switch to HPS
and then i have ran hps all the way through
the MH/hps grow had nice branching
the HPS run was nothing but bud sticks lol
and dense at that if i can get that in one bulb
id be tickled, thing is i dont want to spend the money till i have too
Im bad about that

Bighill said:

Feed the soil not the plant

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Couldn't agree with this more, its funny i can almost smell when the soil is right
Call me crazy but its distinct.

The buds burn soo clean, you'll love organics. Easy, Burns Clean and everyone says wow when you light it up.

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Indeed and i love the fact that there is little to no ash after your done

mossys said:

I'm not saying definite..coz mother nature has a habit of bitch-slapping me..
BUT..
it Seems to be doing a lot better than the PH down..ATM..


Nah...it's just coz I'm damned evil...


It Does actually...when you think of how many of the same cross I have viewed..
it never deadens the attraction.


mmm..makes me glad I grow AF's...at least it will only be weeks before you have a replacement to gaze at..not months.


shroomy...have trimmers..will travel....
I'd Love to see them outdoor in the Aussie sun.
You going into the ground or in pots...
(bpb had a bit of trouble in a garden setting with soil splash in his torrential rain...dirty bud..)

dargo..those figure make me wanna weep.
I did it after being told to try a pre-fert..
I set 5 different big mixed pot away..and got about 90% male dom.
Handy trick when you are rolling though..never know when you may need to split the male pool wide open.

I used to use John Innes potting compo in the UK..but I don't knowif it is still available.
It is specially formulated for seed and has extra perlite/drainage toprevent dampening off.

Over here my oprions are limited..
so I use Universal compost..no pre-ferts.

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first, I'll bring my trimmers too! I've always wanted to see Austrailia!
but since I wasn't actually invited, I digress....
in regards to soil... on the good advice of mossy and FD I used 1 gal... maybe 1.25s with FFOF.... but installed a little "plug" of my favorite starting soil... here its called Macenroe Organics starting mix. It is basically a mix of sand (quite a lot) peat, perlite and few other organic fillers... compost etc. It works great... and they didn't burn... however, I bought femmy femmies... so shouldn't get a male or I'll be annoyed at my fav seed bank! lol

mossys said:

Bring us a smell description when she starts to go..
I Think these were the cross that said they were low odour
but the NL's I have smelled were Stink monsters that made you go weak at the knees with desire.

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EVERY NL I 've smelled has given me the same weakness in the knees! It's the bees knees! lol

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Hey everybody. Just thought i would post a few photos that i just took today and give you an update how the 3 girls are lookin.... First is the pakistan ryder at 30 days. the 2nd pic is the blue himalaya at 22 days and the 3rd is the ak48 at 27 days. Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated as always and good luck to everyone....

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the blue himalaya cam back nice! everyones lookin good... keep it man!

FullDuplex said:

Just like k2 said you can run that spec bulb the entire grow and be fine I run HPS the entire grow.
I have MH too but its easier to run one than change em all out.
Plus my HPS has 10,000 more lumen's than the MH
Power from the get go

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hey FD... should I be running my HPS straight through? I was gonna run the MH till 4 weeks and then swtich to the HPS... but sounds like thats just robbing me of about 12,000 lumens... I was aiming at maintining a good height and reducing streching as my space is farily short.

J